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Is Asari Justicar a bad class?


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#176
Ikilledkillab

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BEs are primarily a tool for CC, but having a good primar for warp ammo is way more efficient on big targets than BEs performed in AJA's rithm. Reave is excellent for this. You'll melt everything.

 

I love that sound and the explosion though. I'd much rather kill something with a BE than a gun. And not for nothing but with a decent gun and warp ammo IV, everything melts anyways on any class...



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KalilKareem

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BEs are primarily a tool for CC, but having a good primar for warp ammo is way more efficient on big targets than BEs performed in AJA's rithm. Reave is excellent for this. You'll melt everything.

 

Yay! Someone agrees with me on something. Tbh I dont even bother about comboing mooks. Reave and harrier to the face takes them down just as fast. Time for a happy dance image!

 

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The most accurate prediction of how the thread turned out.



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Who fed and got water on this fucking gremlin?


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No "1v1methundadumbshurikensonly"?

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Thank you for a constructive and well written response. A nice change of pace for this thread. The only point to which I do not agree is that I feel that the redundancy of the Pull/Reave combo persists into platinum as well, since if you choose to ignore pull you can afford to bring a heavier weapon instead.

 

The bubble is certainly still very nice for hacks and such, agreed. All I am trying to say is that is nowhere near as good as it was back when we were all camping on firebase white :)

Maybe on the heavier weapon. Acolyte pull is just easier especially for on host phantoms, as soon as their shields are striped they usually flip and are easy to pull then reave to get rid of. Another thing is sure a heavier weapon can dispatch enemies BUT those enemies can return fire, a pulled enemy or two is completely removed from the fight, very helpful for Hunters, Possessed Captains, Phantoms, etc. Plus pulling a possessed abom off a teammate who is unaware or helpless on a device. The utility of it is greatly underestimated. If you know the wave budgets you can make great use of the power and just roll through them quickly. 



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AJA is awsm. I did the easiest plat solo of my life with her in 34:0x with this 66653 build. You can create BEs in 4 ways with her. Starting from quickest: Pull -> BS/Pull -> Reave, BS -> Reave, Reave -> BS. All her powers stagger and Acolyte too. You can get 2 BEs on the same target in a BS, BS will reprime if the target reenters. I use BS mostly in cqc, Reave for mid/longrange and Pull for everything, because. Reave all the things works too of course, but use your gun always.

For a more soldier type build I skip Pull completely. The evos stay the same, but can like my armour bonus vary with chosen weapon. With a rather light weapon my evos stay exactly the same just with full shields and 6b passive. With a rather heavy weapon I take Reave 6b and passive 5b with an AM III, because you won't be able stack Reave as good.

I guess she's hard for newbs to figure out, but once you get the hang of her she's easy to play and very powerful. Oh and she can make every faction on all difficulties easy.

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While she´s probably not best adept(I would say HA and DA are both above her), she´s still very solid one. Strong and reliable, capable of good damage output. You don´t necessarily have to go for bubble and reave(or vice versa) for explosions as I agree it´s often quite risky. It´s s fun way, but the thing is if you feel it´s too dangerous or if you need to keep distance, you will be perfectly fine just using reave and shooting with anything as long as you have warp ammo. Then when there is good opportunity, you can switch to reave and bubble. I like to play with bubble and try to make explosions, but to be honest my main source of damage is reave and weapon.

 

I know many people think bubble is not very usefull, but I really like how versatile it is. It has great stagger effect. Perfect for revives. You can cast bubble around you and team corpse and everything inside gets staggered. By the time enemy recover, you are finished with revive and can follow with reave for explosions. You can place it on choke points or around drone during escort or to protect hacking circle.

 

Pull on husks, abominations, troopers and other small...creepers :)



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NuclearTech76

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@Dida.

 

Lol. I was beginning to think I was some super, elite pro because I can totally stomp the hell out of Platinum with such a "bad" class. She's one of my favorite go to classes for carrying. Again one of my easiest Plat solos was with her as well.



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OP. Look at the title of the thread."Is AJ a BAD class". You named it. No matter how you twist words now, it won't change that you are dead wrong. Even those who you think agree with you, (I think)won't agree that she is bad. Not many are saying she is best adept or better than geths. But they are pointing you are wrong.

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Dovakiin_N7

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BugAdept is the best adept. :D. Specially in white or glacier.

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Don't even spec into pull, maybe 3 at most, go full on with the health and shield, run up to the spawn, pop the bubble, and the extra health will "usually" keep you alive, acolyte helps of course, and reave everything, prime them with reave, then pop the bubble on them for explosions, with just one other adept she is a beast. 



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lol, I'm not good at trolling apparently. :/


Can't troll a troll, sweetie. ;)

#189
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Man this thread is classic, nice gifs too, thanks OP. I have nothing to add really I just want a bookmark, oh and she's not bad.


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#190
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OP she's not a bad class. You stepped up to Gold and didn't modify your character accordingly.  When you step to Gold/Platinum your focus should be on:
1. Anything that takes down armor quickly (armor damage/weakening).

2. Debuffing.
3. Anything that takes down shields/barrier quickly.
4. Damage reduction.

This applies to practically all kits. Not everyone uses the same build for Justicar, BUT they make their build effective for their playstyle. I opt completely out of Pull in favor of Reave>Bubble>Reave while rocking the Talon and Geth Scanner. The only enemy that causes me to hesitate rushing in is the Geth Prime. For some odd reason, he always seems to target me in a room full of people. I think somehow he's programmed to know that I'm about to f**k him up.

I'm one of those people you will hear say 'pull is uesless' because Pull doesn't suit my playstyle (which is CC/BE spam with shooting in between) and there are not as many enemies affected by it on the higher difficulties. I started out with using Cyc mods then slowly started using other gear types such as Adr and Power Amps. To another player Pull might be useful because they are using a weapon build or prefer to play from a distance (and some CC situations).

Alot of the same comments you're getting here were already made in existing threads such as this one with all the same people making comments. There are variety of ways to play the Justicar effectively on higher difficulties ESPECIALLY when there is another biotic on your team.



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I am right. They even admit it (unknowling) when they "play her as a biotic soldier". Well ofc you do. Everyone does. Because her powers are nowhere near enough to sustain her as an adept. And there are tbh many kits that are better weapon platforms than the justicar. Perfectly viable on all difficulties, but nowadays somewhat subpar which is how I define "bad".

 

I don't play her as a Biotic Soldier, at all.

 

In fact, I play her as a dedicated caster with 6 ranks in Pull. I think you lost me when you said, "Pull is useless." After that, I just figured you were trolling.


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#192
Shadohz

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Shes a bad*** Goddess use the asari weapon called the acolyte and she will be able to pull everything except for armored targets

 

Heres this for your lack of appreciation

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=NAd9gkVBKQg

 

and Heres a helpful and decent way to use her

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=EtnCowILcIw

My e-peen approves of your avatar. That's not really off-topic because the AJA gives my e-peen the same feeling.  ^_^



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Maybe on the heavier weapon. Acolyte pull is just easier especially for on host phantoms, as soon as their shields are striped they usually flip and are easy to pull then reave to get rid of. Another thing is sure a heavier weapon can dispatch enemies BUT those enemies can return fire, a pulled enemy or two is completely removed from the fight, very helpful for Hunters, Possessed Captains, Phantoms, etc. Plus pulling a possessed abom off a teammate who is unaware or helpless on a device. The utility of it is greatly underestimated. If you know the wave budgets you can make great use of the power and just roll through them quickly.


Pull has its uses for sure. But to have any decent aoe on it you need 4 points. It is really worth dropping fitness evos for? In my experience no, but I respect your opinion if you think otherwise. Reave still staggers, as will a burst from a heavy weapon augumented by warp ammo and priming from the reave.

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OP. Look at the title of the thread."Is AJ a BAD class". You named it. No matter how you twist words now, it won't change that you are dead wrong. Even those who you think agree with you, (I think)won't agree that she is bad. Not many are saying she is best adept or better than geths. But they are pointing you are wrong.


I am not the OP.

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Pull has its uses for sure. But to have any decent aoe on it you need 4 points. It is really worth dropping fitness evos for? In my experience no, but I respect your opinion if you think otherwise. Reave still staggers, as will a burst from a heavy weapon augumented by warp ammo and priming from the reave.

For me myself, yes. I think about the survivability of the kit instead of just the hard numbers of fitness. For me taking a palm cannon out of the fight instantly is better than the extra few points of fitness. It neutralizes one or two weapons instantly which is better than the last few ranks of fitness or a few points in passives. You can find those four points somewhere and once you learn to incorporate the power into you're play style you will wonder how you ever played the kit without it.  I don't use pull that much on Gold unless it's cerbs but on Platinum I can't imagine playing her without it. 



#196
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For me myself, yes. I think about the survivability of the kit instead of just the hard numbers of fitness. For me taking a palm cannon out of the fight instantly is better than the extra few points of fitness. It neutralizes one or two weapons instantly which is better than the last few ranks of fitness or a few points in passives. You can find those four points somewhere and once you learn to incorporate the power into you're play style you will wonder how you ever played the kit without it.  I don't use pull that much on Gold unless it's cerbs but on Platinum I can't imagine playing her without it.


Oh, I have used pull a lot. Used her bubbelless for quite some time. Now I wonder whatever I ever used that pull for :P

#197
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-dashes in-  Bubbles thread 

 

some of ya muthas wants popping   :devil:

 

-dashes out like the vapors- :wizard:



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The Justicar isn't for me but she's far from a bad class.



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Oh, I have used pull a lot. Used her bubbelless for quite some time. Now I wonder whatever I ever used that pull for :P

Bubbleless? What is this I don't even know? 

 

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Bubbleless? What is this I don't even know? 
 
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It is one of those things that isnt really a word, but really ought to be :)