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[ClydeInTheShell]

Running a Justicar with no Bubble takes away her greatest strength, which is dominating areas on a map by creating a kill zone inside the Sphere. Want to abuse warp ammo? Reave + warp effect from Sphere + weapon fire = melting enemies, with some BEs thrown in for area damage. 

[Knockingbr4in]

This is still going? God, fkn learn how to play or bust.

[KalilKareem]

Running a Justicar with no Bubble takes away her greatest strength, which is dominating areas on a map by creating a kill zone inside the Sphere. Want to abuse warp ammo? Reave + warp effect from Sphere + weapon fire = melting enemies, with some BEs thrown in for area damage.

I agree. That was a dumb build. I only mentioned it as my point of reference for Pull usage.

[Caineghis2500]

This thread is.....

[TheNightSlasher]

How can a character with 3 excellent powers, best dodge in the game, DR ability be bad? 

[ClydeInTheShell]

I agree. That was a dumb build. I only mentioned it as my point of reference for Pull usage.

 

I gotcha. I personally think what makes her great is when you can incorporate use of all 3 of her powers to give her the most versatility. I felt the same way about Pull; I used the Justicar w/o Bubble on my first Gold solo and thought she was better without it. It took me learning about the power and seeing the results that convinced me to use it over Pull. 

 

Then I saw how easily phantoms could be dispatched with a Justicar by just pulling them + Reave. Since I play a lot of platinum, it was worth it to re-spec and take Pull to 6 ranks, not just for phantoms but other bothersome mooks on platinum you want to get out of the way while a boss is in front of you. Now I use both powers at rank 6 and she's more effective that way. 

 

My .02

[me0120]

Sure there is something inbetween. Look back and you will see me talking about midrange characters (for reference that is where I think she was originally, but now she has in my opinion fallen behind the midrange say into the bottom 20% or so, which is what I would call "bad"). I can see that you do not agree with my sentiments, which is perfectly fine ofc. We are all (or should be ar least) entitled to our opinions.
Tell me, out of curiosity, what was the "point" of belittling me? I simply cannot understand the reason behind the hostility and the insults.
To be honest I have no clue what you mean by biotic assistant. In these two years of playing I have never felt the need for a biotic assistance. Some dps and the occational ress when i muck up is always nice. But "biotic assistant"? What is that even supposed to mean?

I belittle you because I think lowly of you. The reasons I think lowly of you are implicitly stated in my old posts. It's funny how your demeanor changed after my last post.

I say Biotic Assistant because she helps other biotic classes most by using biotics. A novaguard or Drellgod on a team with a good Justicar is an amazing show. she makes teams stronger but is also one of the easiest classes to be effective with.

[Deerber]

How can a character with 3 excellent powers, best dodge in the game, DR ability be bad? 

 

Pull an excellent power? Uhm... What's the standard you're refering to, exactly? 

[TheNightSlasher]

Pull an excellent power? Uhm... What's the standard you're refering to, exactly? 

To me, yes. It is situational, sure but I love it.

 

If drell didn't have 20% movement speed boost on rank 6 fitness, I'd gladly skip that in favor of 3 ranks in pull. 

[Miniditka77]

I do "all of the above" with the Justicar.  I use the old Acolyte/Hurricane combo with Warp rounds.  I take out most mooks with Acolyte/Pull/Reave, and I take out bosses with combinations of Reave-Bubble combos and the Hurricane.  It's honestly one of the most foolproof, easy-mode Gold setups, and it works well even with an Acolyte I and a Hurricane I.  Really, Dragoons are the only enemies that ever give me problems with that setup, because they are nasty about staggering you out of your bubble animation.

[Zyzimorph]

Pull is so much better than it gets credit for, especially on the Justicar.

[Ribosome]

How can a character with 3 excellent powers, best dodge in the game, DR ability be bad? 

 

this needs to be said more

 

It wasn't until I started doing platinum solos that I truly began to come to this realization. Dodges need more credit in general. Someone said to me that all of the basic human classes were the worst and their only argument was because of their health and shields. The fuh?

[TheNightSlasher]

this needs to be said more

 

It wasn't until I started doing platinum solos that I truly began to come to this realization. Dodges need more credit in general. Someone said to me that all of the basic human classes were the worst and their only argument was because of their health and shields. The fuh?

 

I'd rather have a dodge than eleventy billion shields.

[me0120]

I'd rather have a dodge than eleventy billion shields.

I do like her dodge but I hate keeping my shield gate from coming back up by dodging.

[Deerber]

To me, yes. It is situational, sure but I love it.

 

If drell didn't have 20% movement speed boost on rank 6 fitness, I'd gladly skip that in favor of 3 ranks in pull. 

 

How can a situational power be excellent though? If you said pretty good, or okay, I would be inclined to agree. But excellent? Warp is an excellent power. PM, overload are. Pull? Nope.

 

My 2 cents

[Zyzimorph]

this needs to be said more
 
It wasn't until I started doing platinum solos that I truly began to come to this realization. Dodges need more credit in general. Someone said to me that all of the basic human classes were the worst and their only argument was because of their health and shields. The fuh?

I don't think the Asari dodge is the best, but it's really personal preference.
That being said , Vanilla Humans and the Smash Bros have my favorite dodge by far.

[Knockingbr4in]

Geth dodge is best dodge IMO.

[PinchLion]

Her full potential is achieved, I think, when played without fitness. 

[MisterGunfighter]

How can a character with 3 excellent powers, best dodge in the game, DR ability be bad? 

 

"Best dodge" could be an interesting topic of discussion.

 

Justicar has a great dodge, but is it best?

 

Collector has a real nimble dodge.  For some reason, I dodge best with this character.

 

Then there's the Fury who can dodge through walls.  Which should be awesome.  But for me, I'm always like, "Where the heck am I now?"  

[didacuscarr]

I'd rather have a dodge than eleventy billion shields.

With so many shields you wouldn't need to dodge though.

[TheNightSlasher]

"Best dodge" could be an interesting topic of discussion.

 

Justicar has a great dodge, but is it best?

 

Collector has a real nimble dodge.  For some reason, I dodge best with this character.

 

Then there's the Fury who can dodge through walls.  Which should be awesome.  But for me, I'm always like, "Where the heck am I now?"  

It's just my opinion.

 

The collector dodge is pretty good but if not timed well, it will take you too far and put you in close proximity to another enemy when getting away from one.

 

As for fury, I hate her dodge. I hate teleport dodges in general (Cabal is fine though). Sometimes, the dodge doesn't work the first time around. Unless you have a geth scanner, there is a huge possiblity of dodging straight into a cluster of enemies on the other side of the wall. Her dodge is one of the reasons why I hate that character (Yes, I hate the fury). And the asari's dodge is why I rate the valkyrie much higher than the fury...

[Deerber]

 

As for fury, I hate her dodge. I hate teleport dodges in general. Sometimes, the dodge doesn't work the first time around. Unless you have a geth scanner, there is a huge possiblity of dodging straight into a cluster of enemies on the other side of the wall. Her dodge is one of the reasons why I hate that character (Yes, I hate the fury). And the asari's dodge is why I rate the valkyrie much higher than the fury...

 

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!

 

[Ribosome]

Collector is my favourite. It's so good at getting you out of those 'o ****' moments and enhancing your survivability that I'm perfectly comfortable with a SS-less full Ascension build on platinum to BRING MAXIMUM DOTTAGE

 

And agreed the fury is laaaaaame

[Caineghis2500]

Needs a best dodge thread

[Sailears]

Needs a best dodge thread

 

Could just necro one.