No, I don't like the idea of non companion romances. I think they should put their few resources for romance content into actual companion romances.
Romancing non-companions
#51
Posté 20 avril 2014 - 06:57
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#52
Posté 20 avril 2014 - 07:03
Honestly a large part of why I'm pulling for this is because frankly, I just want something different.
I'm tired of the battle couple. I love battle couples but I'm tired of them. I want a break. I want something different. I want a romance where at least one of the participants isn't a one man army. I want a relationship with someone who doesn't have one of the crazy, traumatic backstories that Bioware companions are required to have. I want a relationship where they don't follow me around all the time because damnit, I want a little *me* time while I'm slaughtering demons.
I just want some variety.
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#53
Posté 20 avril 2014 - 07:22
I'm hoping Dagna is one. Or any dwarf would be better than nothing. XD I just really like dwarves and playing as them... It's disappoiting how LIs are always elves or humans. I'd have romanced Sigrun in a heartbeat...
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#54
Posté 22 avril 2014 - 09:05
I don't mind the idea of an NPC romance, to be honest. The only hesitation that I have is, like others have said, the fact that there are going to be situations where you won't be able to get additional character development with your LI because they simply can't be with you for the majority of the gameplay. It's not that they can't (or won't) do it well, it's just that there is certainly something to be said about having your LI in the party, so that you can hear his/her reactions to dialogue, banter, etc.
Now, that being said, it all comes down to character and the writing, in my opinion. I look at Kaidan and Cortez. In that situation, Kaidan is the clear winner for me, but it's not because he's a squad member. It's because his writing was superb. If they had been the exact same characters, but swapped who was a squad member and who was an NPC, I would probably still prefer Kaidan because of who he is. Cortez is fine, but Kaidan was better. I could easily see myself choosing an NPC romance if I find the character more likeable and/or better written than the companion romance.
well that can be avoided (at least partly) by making the romancable NPCs people that are there in crucial situations (maybe not in the thick of fighting...at least not most of the time, as the movers and shakers normally only show up at really important battles), like say Meredith in DA2 - she was the big bad, so she was almost everywhere something important went down...and if you do this with an important character like say a Lord (like Arl Eamon in DA:O - who was there in plenty of important scenes....)
still, you are probably right, that you will never quite get the depth you get with characters you can take almost everywhere (as there might be scenes you are alone, need to take someone else as mandatory etc.)
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#55
Posté 06 mai 2014 - 09:27
Throughout DA we've only been able to romance companions which, personally speaking I think is a bit unnecessary and silly. Is it impossible that someone who isn't a good fighter could have a relationship? I liked the feature in ME2 and 3 and there have been plenty of non-companions I would of liked to have romanced (no not Cullen!) but what do you think?
Interesting idea but kinda hard to make it believable. Like: "Hello there, man/woman of my dreams which i only see rarely around".Hard to believe character-bonds under this circumstance and a lot of extra-work for storywriters.
And about ME2/3: I did never really care about those KellyChambers-Traynor-Aller-characters. They all seemed to lack personality compared to others like Liara, Tali or Miranda... and there was just one romance i wished to get but was never implemented: Morinth.
#56
Posté 06 mai 2014 - 09:38
Well, they're doing it with Cullen so I'm going to guess they will have 1 female NPC LI to even it out.
#57
Posté 08 mai 2014 - 10:31
I'm just gonna say it:
Traynor was my favorite LI in ME3.
*takes cover*
She really was my fav. I loved the scene after Ranock? where she's going off about wanting to rip the reaper to sheds bare handed for me ![]()
She ALWAYS had faith in my Shep. Lookin' at you at you, Mr Kaiden Wafflepants!
In my opinion BioWare has always tried to be as progressive as the times/market would allow and have made it a consistent practice to admit and learn from short failings. I think they are going with set sexualities because they feel that they will have enough story content to offer equal options to everyone, not only with the need for ambiguity, but with real distinction. So, I guess I'm saying have a little faith, BioWare can't make all of us happy all of the time but they try damn hard to make all of us happy at least some of the time.
#58
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 12:26
I loved Traynor and Cortez too (although the way Traynor was handled left so much to be desired). Cortez is my favorite romance of ME3. I love that the dynamic he and Shepard have is completely different from any other romance option in any of the games. It made it feel completely special, in a way that I don't think would have worked with a companion character.
I did not love that they had less content than the companion romances, though--even in situations where they ARE around, like talking on the ship, or in situations where they COULD have been added, like the Citadel DLC (there is no reason Cortez couldn't be the one to rescue you when you're stranded). I'm fine with not getting to talk to my LI while on a mission/quest, but there should be enough content elsewhere to make up for that.
If the Keep NPCs (I wish I knew what to call them) work like we all suspect they do, I hope that means that they'll be able to do non-companion romances well. If they're important to the story, if they interact with you often, if they are often around and can chat with you often, then I think it could work.
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#59
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 12:28
If the Keep NPCs (I wish I knew what to call them) work like we all suspect they do, I hope that means that they'll be able to do non-companion romances well. If they're important to the story, if they interact with you often, if they are often around and can chat with you often, then I think it could work.
Cullen, Leliana, and Scribbles.
#60
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 12:31
Cullen, Leliana, and Scribbles.
Oh I know, I just don't know what to call them as a group (although I am fond of Scribe Girl more than Scribbles
).
#61
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 12:33
Oh I know, I just don't know what to call them as a group (although I am fond of Scribe Girl more than Scribbles
).
They are the Advisers. Cullen represents the military aspect, Leliana the espionage/information aspect, and Scribbles/Scribe Girl represents the commerce/political aspect.
#62
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 12:36
They are the Advisers. Cullen represents the military aspect, Leliana the espionage/information aspect, and Scribbles/Scribe Girl represents the commerce/political aspect.
Is that confirmed?
#63
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 12:37
Is that confirmed?
I know Leliana is confirmed as the master of the spies, and there is someone who will be your 'political pillar'.
#64
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 06:20
Honestly a large part of why I'm pulling for this is because frankly, I just want something different.
I'm tired of the battle couple. I love battle couples but I'm tired of them. I want a break. I want something different. I want a romance where at least one of the participants isn't a one man army. I want a relationship with someone who doesn't have one of the crazy, traumatic backstories that Bioware companions are required to have. I want a relationship where they don't follow me around all the time because damnit, I want a little *me* time while I'm slaughtering demons.
I just want some variety.
So leave them at camp.
#65
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 07:33
So leave them at camp.
That doesn't really work. All the companions are usually written in such a way that they assume they are out fighting with you. The dynamics are exactly the same whether you choose to take them in your party or not.
#66
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 08:52
After all the buzz both pro and con around Cullen, I am surprized that they included him as an NCP again and a NCP LI to boot. If the love story here is shallow and brief, then any acusations of fan service may quickly become accusations of fan disservice.
I am so curious about why they included Cullen as an NCP and not a companion. Makes me mad!!LOL
#67
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 08:59
I like the idea if they will always be at our keep (at least when we are there), and we go there quite a bit so you're not like 'OH, I haven't seen my LI in awhile maybe I should stop in.' If theres a LI in a random town or a pub or something, not so into that.
#68
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 09:04
Honestly, it creeps me out a little when people say things like "I want someone waiting for me at home", or whatever.
Like, if a guy said that to me, I'd just dump them.
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#69
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 09:14
I was pretty discouraged by the content balance I saw in ME3 for companion/non-companion love interests. Hoping this will restore a bit of my faith in the idea of non-companion romances.
#70
Posté 09 mai 2014 - 09:32
I'm not really sure about them. On the one hand, it could offer an interesting and new perspective, and on the other, I feel it restricts the bond and interaction with the PC. I always take the LI with me. As the character my character is closest to, they take priority over the others (with the exception of Beth/Carver).
Every so often, I contemplate how interesting it might be for my mage inquisitor to take her/his girlfriend Cassandra to meet the mages and think about how it might unfold. Then I think about the same happening with Cullen, and, well, he won't be there. Unless he's based at a camp where the mages are, but even then he isn't present to react to particular events. How would you get his thoughts on those events, that's usually what builds the relationship with that character in my mind. For those who want to romance him, it's presumably better than nothing, but not the same as a companion romance.





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