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[mikeymoonshine]

I have become more and more excited about the idea of a f/f Vivienne romance, to be honest.  It's odd given that I've never ever been interested in a f/f romance before (except that one time with FemShep and Liara, but I was young and experimenting.......).  I'm really loving her look and what we know about her attitude and I really could see myself enjoying a lady dwarf (or qunari?) Inquisitor and Vivienne romance playthrough. 

 

Maybe that's why I've been so vocal about defending bisexuality?  Damn you, Vivienne!  So gorgeous that she can even attract the gay guys!

 

I usually play all the romances at some point. I also did a femshep/Liara romance for my second full play through and I don't think I ever did get around to romancing Isabela as a male Hawke. 

 

I could see Viv working quite well as a f/f but any romance with her at all would be awesome. 

[SerTabris]

From the DA II Wiki http://dragonage.wik...-Captain_Cullen

 

All mentions of his crush/affection are only made when a female mage is the imported one from Origins.

 

I think some of them also only come up for a human female mage (since the human mage is an Amell, and related to Hawke).

[jlb524]

I find it unlikely that Sera would be unavailable to male characters though (for some reason) and I am pretty sure she will be an LI. 

 

Yeah I feel the same way...probably b/c she seems like a good foil to Cassandra (who is a male romance option).

 

Plus, she's a cute elf.

 

 

I'm certainly hoping she and my female qunari can, ahem, lock horns ...

 

I now want to see fan art of them locking horns.

[Rowe]

Unless he was repressed and in denial, but he's been questioning not just the role of the Templars, but his own identity, over the past decades; the fanfic writes itself, I tells ya

 

Lol. Awesome, I totally need to read some of that!

 

To a less dramatic extent, it would be very interesting to spin it this way a bit more. Maybe he has identified as straight... until he meets your male inquisitor! To write him (or one of the male characters) dealing with that would be very interesting...  

[daveliam]

Lol. Awesome, I totally need to read some of that!

To a less dramatic extent, it would be very interesting to spin it this way a bit more. Maybe he has identified as straight... until he meets your male inquisitor! To write him (or one of the male characters) dealing with that would be very interesting...

To be honest, ever since they said that a character would be struggling with their sexuality, I've thought exactly this. If the PC is a female, he struggles with a physically intimate relationship since he was chaste as a Templar. If the PC is a male, he struggles with his emerging s/s feelings. I might be totally off, but I could see this as a way to have Cullen revealed as bisexual.

[andar91]

Personally, I'd prefer more set sexualities reflective of real life. I'd be fine with multiple bisexual characters, but I'd love for there to be exclusively straight or gay/lesbian characters as well.

[Rowe]

To be honest, ever since they said that a character would be struggling with their sexuality...

 

Who said? I was just posturing. Is there some sort of statement from devs about that?

[lane]

While it's true it doesn't mean he can be completely straight, I just don't see why they didn't do it like Iona and Dairren then if they want him Bi

maybe because back in the time of making DAO they didnt think about his possibilities ! its very easy to write a simple characters quickly with no ambiguities and confusing identity . and plus ,he wasnt so very important back in origin,so they didnt give much thoughts about his possibilities and identity, so i see it was the easiest way that way. but what we discover in 2 ,is that he's man in denial on many aspects and that he doesnt accord his affection so blantly, he come out as kind of shy regarding his emotions . 

personally i see him like the kind of person who fall in love with the heart first and not the gender .and being the knight captain and a templar in a city full of unjustice and opression for the past decades ,he wouldnt had time to think about a lover. thus leaving him close to a virgin situation regarding his feelings toward people around him.

thus i think any inquisitor still have time to win his untouched heart .

[lane]

To be honest, ever since they said that a character would be struggling with their sexuality, I've thought exactly this. If the PC is a female, he struggles with a physically intimate relationship since he was chaste as a Templar. If the PC is a male, he struggles with his emerging s/s feelings. I might be totally off, but I could see this as a way to have Cullen revealed as bisexual.

if they said a character gonna be struggling with his sexuality i'll bet my arm its Cullen ! he's already torn between his duty and what he've seen recently. he still come out as shy over his emotions even if he's a templar compared to some of his templars fellows . for me he's not just the perfect candidat for a closet case , but also that he'll be struggling with his beliefs too as a templar. am sure the inquisitor will have to stand either grounds (templars or mages) when the time will come regarding this matter , and the inquisitor gonna also be influencing his beliefs if he win his friendship. and i found this even greater .The man might reborn on many aspects in inquisition . 

[lane]

It's a CGI trailer made by another studio, anything depicted here is speculative unless confirmed by BioWare. 

whats CGI ? so there is no game behind this ? 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

whats CGI ? so there is no game behind this ? 

He means the Sacred Ashes trailer for Origins.

[AresKeith]

maybe because back in the time of making DAO they didnt think about his possibilities ! its very easy to write a simple characters quickly with no ambiguities and confusing identity . and plus ,he wasnt so very important back in origin,so they didnt give much thoughts about his possibilities and identity, so i see it was the easiest way that way. but what we discover in 2 ,is that he's man in denial on many aspects and that he doesnt accord his affection so blantly, he come out as kind of shy regarding his emotions .
personally i see him like the kind of person who fall in love with the heart first and not the gender .and being the knight captain and a templar in a city full of unjustice and opression for the past decades ,he wouldnt had time to think about a lover. thus leaving him close to a virgin situation regarding his feelings toward people around him.
thus i think any inquisitor still have time to win his untouched heart .

Where are you getting this all from?

And for you saying he wasn't important enough, neither Iona or Dirren was important and they was capable of showing interest in both male and female Warden Noble

[lane]

Where are you getting this all from?

And for you saying he wasn't important enough, neither Iona or Dirren was important and they was capable of showing interest in both male and female Warden Noble

i was supposing cullen's situation and personality after what i've seen from him this far, nothing more. its my point of view regarding his case.

and i keep assuring he wont be the straight character ,i just tried to maybe explain the whys ,we left him confuse at the ending of the last battle. Am pretty sure we'll still find him in this state. So maybe he will be the one struggling with his sexuality and many other beliefs ,that will be very accurate i think .

[sheppard7]

I just hope BW doesn't do like they did with DA2. Where you have a male character already romancing a female character then BW forcing another male NPC trying to jump on him then rage quits the team when you politely say you don't swing that way. That's what they did with Anders in DA2.

 

My friends that are gay or bi never do that. I respect them being gay or bi because they show me the same respect for being straight. How BW did with Anders had those same friends cringe because they would never act that way. We may joke back and forth but the whole rage quitting then only showing up to cause all the blood to be spilled was very poor taste, Bioware.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I just hope BW doesn't do like they did with DA2. Where you have a male character already romancing a female character then BW forcing another male NPC trying to jump on him then rage quits the team when you politely say you don't swing that way. That's what they did with Anders in DA2.

 

 

Um, what? Anders doesn't rage quit the team if you turn him down. He gains a few rivalry points - ten or fifteen, I don't remember off the top of my head. If you want to be friends instead of rivals, you can cancel the points out about fifty times over by supporting mage freedom.

[Mockingword]

Some guys will insist on thinking they're being hit on if a gay man so much as glances in their vague direction. 

[Shark17676]

Some guys will insist on thinking they're being hit on if a gay man so much as glances in their vague direction. 

 

They wish.

[Rayndorn]

I would find the proposed Cullen situation very interesting. The idea of him struggling with his sexuality would be a good way of applying him as a Bisexual romance option. It would be more believable than him suddenly revealing his never-before-mentioned attraction to other men. Fangirls and fanboys everywhere will rejoice, and nobody shall be left behind.

Has there actually been a BioWare character who's ever been closeted/discovered attraction to the same sex later in life? I think I've heard of one such in Jade Empire, but I've never had the pleasure of playing that game. Could somebody enlighten me? 

 

[daveliam]

I just hope BW doesn't do like they did with DA2. Where you have a male character already romancing a female character then BW forcing another male NPC trying to jump on him then rage quits the team when you politely say you don't swing that way. That's what they did with Anders in DA2.

 

My friends that are gay or bi never do that. I respect them being gay or bi because they show me the same respect for being straight. How BW did with Anders had those same friends cringe because they would never act that way. We may joke back and forth but the whole rage quitting then only showing up to cause all the blood to be spilled was very poor taste, Bioware.

 

Just so you know, you can completely avoid the rivalry points and still not romance Anders.  There is one dialogue path that allows you to turn him down and still gain about 5 friendship points, but it requires you hitting the first flirt option, I think. 

And, as someone else pointed out, he doesn't 'rage quit' the team.  I'm really not sure what you are talking about because I don't recall Anders ever leaving the team and then showing up later "to cause all the blood to be spilled".

[daveliam]

I would find the proposed Cullen situation very interesting. The idea of him struggling with his sexuality would be a good way of applying him as a Bisexual romance option. It would be more believable than him suddenly revealing his never-before-mentioned attraction to other men. Fangirls and fanboys everywhere will rejoice, and nobody shall be left behind.

Has there actually been a BioWare character who's ever been closeted/discovered attraction to the same sex later in life? I think I've heard of one such in Jade Empire, but I've never had the pleasure of playing that game. Could somebody enlighten me?

 

Sky in Jade Empire is a widowed man who had a child.  When the PC turns down both of the female characters, he will begin a dialogue option with you where he asks why you weren't interested in the women.  If you say it's because you are interested in him, he seems taken aback and says that he needs to think about it for a bit.  Later, he comes back and says that he's interested and wants to see where the relationship can go. 

 

I actually kind of liked Sky.  Granted it was a little clunky (especially since it's framed as a "what's wrong with your dudebro character for not banging those babes....." kind of way.  But it was their first m/m relationship attempt and Sky was a really interesting character.  I know some other posters really want to see the whole "struggling with my sexuality" storyline gone since it's a cliche at this point.  I wouldn't mind it because, while it's a cliche in mainstream stories, I haven't really seen Bioware do it yet, so I'd be interested to see how they handle it. 

[Sequin]

I'm starting to think I should just pity romance Anders on my next DA2 run given all the flack he tends to receive. But Isabella is just... too... powerful... can't resist... romancing...

[Rayndorn]

Sky in Jade Empire is a widowed man who had a child.  When the PC turns down both of the female characters, he will begin a dialogue option with you where he asks why you weren't interested in the women.  If you say it's because you are interested in him, he seems taken aback and says that he needs to think about it for a bit.  Later, he comes back and says that he's interested and wants to see where the relationship can go. 

 

I actually kind of liked Sky.  Granted it was a little clunky (especially since it's framed as a "what's wrong with your dudebro character for not banging those babes....." kind of way.  But it was their first m/m relationship attempt and Sky was a really interesting character.  I know some other posters really want to see the whole "struggling with my sexuality" storyline gone since it's a cliche at this point.  I wouldn't mind it because, while it's a cliche in mainstream stories, I haven't really seen Bioware do it yet, so I'd be interested to see how they handle it. 

Wow, that's rather interesting. Thanks for the info.

Perhaps it is cliche. But as you said, BioWare has never really done anything like that. I'd like to see them try it, at least. They tried NPC romances, why not this?

[In Exile]

Sky in Jade Empire is a widowed man who had a child.  When the PC turns down both of the female characters, he will begin a dialogue option with you where he asks why you weren't interested in the women.  If you say it's because you are interested in him, he seems taken aback and says that he needs to think about it for a bit.  Later, he comes back and says that he's interested and wants to see where the relationship can go. 

 

I actually kind of liked Sky.  Granted it was a little clunky (especially since it's framed as a "what's wrong with your dudebro character for not banging those babes....." kind of way.  But it was their first m/m relationship attempt and Sky was a really interesting character.  I know some other posters really want to see the whole "struggling with my sexuality" storyline gone since it's a cliche at this point.  I wouldn't mind it because, while it's a cliche in mainstream stories, I haven't really seen Bioware do it yet, so I'd be interested to see how they handle it. 

 

I get that's how Sky comes across, but I think that was more an intentional aspect of Bioware's writing in the mid-2000s to avoid incredible dudebro rage. 

[DaySeeker]

I never saw Cullen expressing interest in anyone sexually, and I seriously don't need another gay storyline filled with doubt and angst. If there is to be an internal struggle I'd rather it be based on my character's actions or race. I don't need anymore coming out stories or gays as victims of prejudice or disease. Don't make sexuality the issue.

I'd also like romance established early in the game instead of right before the final scene when the lover offers comfort.

[Sequin]

Jade Empire...

You definitely should play that game. My favourite of all Bioware's IP's. I'll never lose hope for a JE2, even if it has been almost 10 years.