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[sheppard7]

I'm glad he's dead. And if he's forced back to life in the next game that will be proof positive just like the last game released by BW that decisions do not matter at all. Forced romances when people are in a relationship already do not happen as much as BW tried to make it out in DA2. I know what happened in my game. You may call glitch but it's what happened.

 

And I already wasn't having a good relationship with him as I hadn't built up points with him not using him unless I had to so might be that triggered an odd thing.

 

I also have the game on both 360 and PC. When I did 360, with a femhawke, letting him down since she has an elf thing, no quit. But she also used Anders all the time and had a very good rapport with him. PC I did male Hawke and he did the quit. Now it's also possible one of the mods I used on PC could be the culprit. I will consider that.

[daveliam]

 I know what happened in my game. You may call glitch but it's what happened.

 

Now it's also possible one of the mods I used on PC could be the culprit. I will consider that.

 

Well, we've all told you that he cannot quit the team because you turn him down.  If you've modded your game, you can't very well complain about those mods as if the devs had anything to do with them.  According to the game  without mods, Anders does not quit the team when you turn him down.  Period.  You don't even have to get rivalry points with him (that's another fallacy).  So your arguments are moot. 

[Ryzaki]

Well, we've all told you that he cannot quit the team because you turn him down.  If you've modded your game, you can't very well complain about those mods as if the devs had anything to do with them.  According to the game  without mods, Anders does not quit the team when you turn him down.  Period.  You don't even have to get rivalry points with him (that's another fallacy).  So your arguments are moot. 

 

...that's a weird mod if it's true.

 

And yeah I'm tired of the whole ANDERS GOT MAD!!! B**** please. I got 25 rivalry by recruiting Fenris as a mage >:|

[daveliam]

...that's a weird mod if it's true.

 

And yeah I'm tired of the whole ANDERS GOT MAD!!! B**** please. I got 25 rivalry by recruiting Fenris as a mage >:|

 

I have no doubt that it's not because of a mod, but if that's the story that he's going with, I'll play along.

[Mockingword]

I would not be the least bit surprised if there was a mod explicitly designed to allow players to boot Anders off the team as soon as possible.

[lane]

 

 

Yeah, I think they really botched his dialogue with FemHawke about Karl.  Combine that with the fact that he mentioned ladies in DA: A and the fact that he hits on the male PC and it was the perfect storm to make him an easy target for complaints.

i think i really sympathise with people who were frustrated by anders sexuality by linking it to awakening and 2. am gonna be brief because this isnt absolutely the place to have a full talk but some things need to be clear ... just so you know , people shouldnt have read much into anders in DAA . i'll tell you why:

 

i think i was from the few ones who just always got a vibe from him that he was trying too hard in a lot of ways… trying too hard to sound cool, and talking too much about how much he liked the boobies, because he was insecure. 

See, Anders is coming off of a year in solitary confinement. That’s a year without intimacy, without human contact at all. I’ve long interpreted his jokes and sarcasm as being a coping method for the pain, and maintained that he would need to go through some kind of “cool down period” to get back to normal after such an ordeal. So it’s long been my belief that Anders talked about flirting without actually flirting because he wasn’t sure how to go about that anymore. He would’ve had to retrain himself to the most basic of human touches after going a year without any contact at all. Can you imagine leaping right into any kind of sexual contact after that kind of deprivation? He wasn’t ready. 

 

That’s the effect of isolation. Paranoia, the inability to relate to other people on the same emotional level, anxiety, etc. Does that sound familiar? Anders is surprisingly well-adjusted in DAA given his experiences, but echoes of this type of damage are nonetheless present in his character. He uses humor and flirtatious banter as a shield, but you can see in some of his talks with other characters that he’s not quite sure how to relate to them. Obviously these traits are even more apparent in DA2 where his barriers have been broken and he’s pretty much wallowing in the weight of all the bad things that have ever been done to him.

 

so The thought of trying to carry out any kind of relationship with him at that point really makes me feel icky. He had literally just gotten out of solitary confinement. A year of it. The fact that he can even still use humor as a coping mechanism blows my mind completely and speaks volumes as to his strength of character.

i recommand anyone who's interested to see just what a solitary confinement ca do , read this article, its heart breaking :

http://www.newyorker...fa_fact_gawande

http://www.wired.com...aryconfinement/

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I’m not trying to rain on anybody’s parade… those are just my feelings. If other people feel differently… that’s okay.

and now i know this was completely out of topic ,but i needed to say this for the sake of knowledge and am deeply sorry oh great moderators ,i deserve a wicked whipping from you ~*take shirt off* 

[lane]

As stated, this is fundamentally untrue.

 

Given the nature of the topic, please course correct your position.  This is a warning.

oh dear moderator ,grant me the strength to ignore those senseless thoughts ...at least in this thread !!!

[lane]

hey and what about a certain 'Cole' what if he's the gay one ! in fact the more i think about it the more i find him also being an potential candidate for the character who'll be struggling with his sexuality ! after all he's looks young and kind of on the shy solitary side ...i don't know..that the vibe he give off for me . so...if he's neither i hope he's a bisexual character ! because beside Cullen i found him the cuttest ! eventhough Cullen have much more chance to be the one struggling with his sexuality for more reasons i can count ! but well...i like cole i wonder if they gonna give him that orleasian accent !! huuumm am not a big fun of it ,but i don't know ,i cross my fingers with Cole ,its gonna turn out quite sexy ! just a hint of it might do the sexy trick ! 

my fears are if the one named dorian (the one with the mustashe and blue hair ) gonna have some antivan accent !!! i really really really ~ hope not ! 

[Cankiie]

I think there should be lesbian, gay, straight and bisexual choices.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

hey and what about a certain 'Cole' what if he's the gay one ! in fact the more i think about it the more i find him also being an potential candidate for the character who'll be struggling with his sexuality ! after all he's looks young and kind of on the shy solitary side ...i don't know..that the vibe he give off for me . so...if he's neither i hope he's a bisexual character ! because beside Cullen i found him the cuttest ! eventhough Cullen have much more chance to be the one struggling with his sexuality for more reasons i can count ! but well...i like cole i wonder if they gonna give him that orleasian accent !! huuumm am not a big fun of it ,but i don't know ,i cross my fingers with Cole ,its gonna turn out quite sexy ! just a hint of it might do the sexy trick ! 

my fears are if the one named dorian (the one with the mustashe and blue hair ) gonna have some antivan accent !!! i really really really ~ hope not ! 

Gaider, Cole's writer, has stated several times that Cole won't be romancable. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think there should be lesbian, gay, straight and bisexual choices.

That's what they are doing unfortunately. 

[daveliam]

hey and what about a certain 'Cole' what if he's the gay one ! in fact the more i think about it the more i find him also being an potential candidate for the character who'll be struggling with his sexuality ! after all he's looks young and kind of on the shy solitary side ...i don't know..that the vibe he give off for me . so...if he's neither i hope he's a bisexual character ! because beside Cullen i found him the cuttest ! eventhough Cullen have much more chance to be the one struggling with his sexuality for more reasons i can count ! but well...i like cole i wonder if they gonna give him that orleasian accent !! huuumm am not a big fun of it ,but i don't know ,i cross my fingers with Cole ,its gonna turn out quite sexy ! just a hint of it might do the sexy trick ! 

my fears are if the one named dorian (the one with the mustashe and blue hair ) gonna have some antivan accent !!! i really really really ~ hope not ! 

 

If DHMG is Dorian, then he's not from Antiva.  He's from Tevinter.  They have british accents. 

 

Also, he doesn't have blue hair.....

[lane]

Gaider, Cole's writer, has stated several times that Cole won't be romancable. 

oh god what a stab to the heart ....

[daveliam]

oh god what a stab to the heart ....

 

He said it's because Cole, despite what he looks like, has the mind of a child.  So romancing him would be like romancing a child. 

[lane]

If DHMG is Dorian, then he's not from Antiva.  He's from Tevinter.  They have british accents. 

 

Also, he doesn't have blue hair.....

ooooh he's from tevinter !!! am already soo very excited to finally discover this emperium !!! the only place which stood agaisnt the chantry order !!! to know that one of my compagnions will be from there is so great !!! oh but wait ! does this mean he's a mage!!? he really didnt give me that vibe at all ! I  hope so !! cause he look well muscled and i really look forward to see more muscled mages around inquisition like mage hawke is !! 

seems like i already know who am gonna get along with hahah

[daveliam]

ooooh he's from tevinter !!! am already soo very excited to finally discover this emperium !!! the only place who stood agaisnt the chantry order !!! to know that one of my compagnion will be from there is so great !!! oh but wait ! does this mean he's a mage!!? he really didnt give me that vibe at all ! I  hope so !! cause he look well muscled and i really look forward to see more muscled mages around inquisition like mage hawke is !! 

seems like i already know who am gonna get along with hahah

 

If DHMG is Dorian, that is.  We haven't gotten any confirmation on that yet.  People are assuming that he's Dorian because everything else from the survey has been true so far.  But, yeah, if he's Dorian, then he is a Tevinter magister who fled the Imperium because he was fed up with the corruption there. 

[lane]

He said it's because Cole, despite what he looks like, has the mind of a child.  So romancing him would be like romancing a child. 

the mind of a child ?! that sound so interesting !!! looks like his storyline gonna be amazing ~~i knew his odd  looks were hiding something !! ~ but ... still deep regret cause he seemed really my kind of guy from  his looks after Cullen ... so i wanted to heighten my romancing chances ~

[AkiKishi]

Glad to see the return to defined characters rather than the wishy washy herosexual stuff. 

[lane]

If DHMG is Dorian, that is.  We haven't gotten any confirmation on that yet.  People are assuming that he's Dorian because everything else from the survey has been true so far.  But, yeah, if he's Dorian, then he is a Tevinter magister who fled the Imperium because he was fed up with the corruption there. 

oh i like Dorian all very good ~  was the name of one of my bf hahaha ~~ anyway ,i like how it sound so far ~ a magister ...hum he might  turn to be smug one this dorian huhu, wonder if he's a blood mage already .. !but whatever bloog mage or not ,am glad i have such a powerful mage icon with me !! all the better if he's a blood mage ! thats going to prove that blood magic does not mean demons have control over us yet ! 

[karushna5]

I am not so much concerned, but part of me is digging in my heels in preperation when the game comes out. When so e peoples favorite character doesnt like them because they are lesbian/gay, it will be a storm. I like the idea of Dorian being gay because he seems the coolest male character so far, and I have a feeling that Sera might be the lesbian option.

I know it isnt fair, but I worry how some people will react and if there will be a whole bunch of rage. Cortez got hatred just mentioning his husband, and straight guys are not used to having their options limited. I feel it wont just be these forums that explode when they find out.

[daveliam]

I am not so much concerned, but part of me is digging in my heels in preperation when the game comes out. When so e peoples favorite character doesnt like them because they are lesbian/gay, it will be a storm. I like the idea of Dorian being gay because he seems the coolest male character so far, and I have a feeling that Sera might be the lesbian option.

I know it isnt fair, but I worry how some people will react and if there will be a whole bunch of rage. Cortez got hatred just mentioning his husband, and straight guys are not used to having their options limited. I feel it wont just be these forums that explode when they find out.

 

Yeah, that can't be avoided unfortunately.  There will always be people who get angry at inclusiveness.  Unfortunately for them, though, the popular opinion has shifted and they are now in the minority on the issue.  It will take some time, but most of them will eventually either come around or choose to keep their opinions to themselves when they don't get the support they are looking for. 

 

Regarding the "straight guy options", I didn't find many straight guys to be upset about Traynor.  I've heard a few who wish they could romance her, but I didn't see any vitriol sent her way because of it.  I suspect its a combination of three things;  1.)  some guys really don't mind having their options limited; 2.) even with Traynor being gendergated, there were still more options for straight guys than anyone else; and 3.)  Traynor was, literally, the first full-fledged romance with a woman who they were gated from.  It was a novelty to them.  If in DA: I, they only had one option (or no options); then in ME 4, they had only one option (or no options); then in DA4, etc., I suspect that many of them wouldn't be as "okay" with being gated.  At least that's my take on it. 

[jlb524]

 

Regarding the "straight guy options", I didn't find many straight guys to be upset about Traynor.  I've heard a few who wish they could romance her, but I didn't see any vitriol sent her way because of it.  I suspect its a combination of three things;  1.)  some guys really don't mind having their options limited; 2.) even with Traynor being gendergated, there were still more options for straight guys than anyone else; and 3.)  Traynor was, literally, the first full-fledged romance with a woman who they were gated from.  It was a novelty to them.  If in DA: I, they only had one option (or no options); then in ME 4, they had only one option (or no options); then in DA4, etc., I suspect that many of them wouldn't be as "okay" with being gated.  At least that's my take on it. 

 

Traynor wasn't a companion either.

 

If one of the DA:I female party members is a lesbian, it might be a different story (though I doubt they'll do this).

[karushna5]

Traynor wasn't a companion either.
 
If one of the DA:I female party members is a lesbian, it might be a different story (though I doubt they'll do this).

Why not?

But otherwise, I agree. She was new, little content, and the least fleshed out of all the romances. They were not losing much. If Miranda had been a lesbian in 2&3 there would have been a bigger uproar.

[AkiKishi]

I am not so much concerned, but part of me is digging in my heels in preperation when the game comes out. When so e peoples favorite character doesnt like them because they are lesbian/gay, it will be a storm. I like the idea of Dorian being gay because he seems the coolest male character so far, and I have a feeling that Sera might be the lesbian option.

I know it isnt fair, but I worry how some people will react and if there will be a whole bunch of rage. Cortez got hatred just mentioning his husband, and straight guys are not used to having their options limited. I feel it wont just be these forums that explode when they find out.

People need to get over it. It's the same in real life. Not everyone you like , will like you back and vice versa. There have always been companions you could not romance.Even DA2 never crossed the line into incest despite that being a popular board topic at the time.

[daveliam]

People need to get over it. It's the same in real life. Not everyone you like , will like you back and vice versa. There have always been companions you could not romance.Even DA2 never crossed the line into incest despite that being a popular board topic at the time.

 

Where did anyone say that they wanted to romance all of the companions?  That's not what I read here at all.  I read that people are concerned about having their options limited from the love interests.  Two completely different things.