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No different than any other system. People will always be screwed, so game companies should try to at least limit the fallout.
That's my point though. It isn't about fairness. Players ultimately want Bioware to go a certain route because that's what they want. They couldn't care less what any other players want, whether they agree with them or not.
As long as we don't get patronizing males praising fem PCs efforts for a woman I'll be happy. (On the m/f front I mean). So tired of males bringing up my fem PCs gender every minute like she's some magical unicorn.
I think that's the problem we're seeing a lot of. People feeling attachment to certain characters, attachment leads to people feeling like they have some sort of ownership of said character, who then feel they deserve some say in the development of the character. That leads to people saying things like "I looooove (insert waifu here) so I should have the right to romance them!"
Then i'm like "Cool, I should go tell Scarlett Johannson that I fancy her, so I should have the right to date her."
That's my point though. It isn't about fairness. Players ultimately want Bioware to go a certain route because that's what they want. They couldn't care less what any other players want, whether they agree with them or not.
So why shouldn't as many people as possible be satisfied though? You're basically saying "Some people won't be satisfied, so let's make sure more aren't either."
As long as we don't get patronizing males praising fem PCs efforts for a woman I'll be happy. (On the m/f front I mean). So tired of males bringing up my fem PCs gender every minute like she's some magical unicorn.
That's very typical for a Knight. Thedas is not Earth. It has different values. In that setting, you likely are a magical unicorn.
So why shouldn't as many people as possible be satisfied though? You're basically saying "Some people won't be satisfied, so let's make sure more aren't either."
What I think he's saying is that there are more pressing concerns for writing NPCS than everyone getting their favourite waifu.
That's very typical for a Knight. Thedas is not Earth. It has different values. In that setting, you likely are a magical unicorn.
Um...nope actually. Plenty of female knights in Thedas. No magical unicorn ness needed. (if anything a mage PC should be the magical unicorn of the setting. Or a elf).
The responses might be coming off as aggressive because it is very offensive to imply that a masculine character cannot be gay. It doesn't matter if you "feel" that way or not. Because it is factually incorrect.
Everything is offensive.
What I think he's saying is that there are more pressing concerns for writing NPCS than everyone getting their favourite waifu.
All characters are written as characters first, LIs second. Hence why if you don't romance a LI option, they don't go silent for the rest of the game because you didn't romance them.
Everything is offensive.
Your statements being the most glaring thing right now.
What.
One gets tired of hearing nonsense like "he doesn't look gay or she's too butch to be straight." You finding it awkward is fine but trying to use that to say Fenris doesn't feel a certain sexuality cause you think the animation is awkward is off.
I'm quite aware that bisexuality is a set sexuality.
Nonsense?
Well it would depend very much on experience, wouldn't it? I won't claim that I know a broad audience of gay people, all I can say is that the few I have met and know, have not come even close to a persona such as Fenris, and therefor it would obviously be weird to me, to see such a character being gay or even bisexual.
I should try to visit a gay bar some day, and see if I am more correct than I know.
So why shouldn't as many people as possible be satisfied though? You're basically saying "Some people won't be satisfied, so let's make sure more aren't either."
And how do you know that "more" people would prefer it one way over another? How do you know that "more" people will be unhappy with set sexualities than there would be with "everyone gets to date everyone, regardless of anthing!" ?
You are ignoring the fact that most people here have no such inclination, and just want options which most games/media never gives them. Most of us want a character or other, but personally the majority of people in this thread are expressing concerns over their equality. We want equal enjoyment and possibility in a game. That isnt unfair or unrealistic or acting like we are entitled to anyone.
I dont want Scribbles to be the lesbian option, because that means lesbians are relegated to an NPC who not only seems to have a similar role as Traynor but decreased role from the other companions. Sera, Vivienne, Cassandra, sure why not. Guys are the same. They want options and to be given a fair treatment which doesn't approach straight women, much less straight men. Mistaking that for feeling we are owed a specific character is mistaking the debate entirely.
What is "fair treatment" though? Would a 2/2/2 split not be fair, provided everyone got the same amount of content?
Um...nope actually. Plenty of female knights in Thedas. No magical unicorn ness needed. (if anything a mage PC should be the magical unicorn of the setting. Or a elf).
Only magical unicorn in Thedas.
It depends how you define fair which is why I prefer to put world integrity above everything.
Nonsense?
Well it would depend very much on experience, wouldn't it? I won't claim that I know a broad audience of gay people, all I can say is that the few I have met and know, have not come even close to a persona such as Fenris, and therefor it would obviously be weird to me, to see such a character being gay or even bisexual.
I should try to visit a gay bar some day, and see if I am more correct than I know.
Yes nonsense.
Because clearly one gay bar along with your personal experiences will show you the entire spectrum of people that fall into a sexuality and *clearly* people can be categorized in masculinity/femininity by sexuality. Cause that's how people work. 
And how do you know that "more" people would prefer it one way over another? How do you know that "more" people will be unhappy with set sexualities than there would be with "everyone gets to date everyone, regardless of anthing!" ?
Again, if there are more options for players to get what they want(in this case, their targets of affection) how they want(in this case, by playing the gender of their choice) then logically more will be happy than if said options were limited.
Nonsense?
Well it would depend very much on experience, wouldn't it? I won't claim that I know a broad audience of gay people, all I can say is that the few I have met and know, have not come even close to a persona such as Fenris, and therefor it would obviously be weird to me, to see such a character being gay or even bisexual.
I should try to visit a gay bar some day, and see if I am more correct than I know.
Peoples existence doesn't depend on your personal experience of witnessing their existence.
Yes nonsense.
Because clearly one gay bar along with your personal experiences will show you the entire spectrum of people that fall into a sexuality and *clearly* people can be categorized in masculinity/femininity by sexuality. Cause that's how people work.
Masculinity and feminity is a very sensitive issue, isn't it?
Again, if there are more options for players to get what they want(in this case, their targets of affection) how they want(in this case, by playing the gender of their choice) then logically more will be happy than if said options were limited.
No, more of the people who want that will be happy. More of the people who don't want that will be left unhappy. There is no statistical evidence to show just how many players want what, anything there is to be said on the matter is purely conjecture.
I seriously doubt anyone here has met a straight person thats even remotely like Fenris either.
Yes, very few people are forced to be slaves to a blood mage, having lyrium carved into their bodies and so on.
Well, I doubt any person comes close to that kind of story.
No, more of the people who want that will be happy. More of the people who don't want that will be left unhappy. There is no statistical evidence to show just how many players want what, anything there is to be said on the matter is purely conjecture.
Let's try this. Say people want Iron Bull as a LI:
If he was straight, only the female characters will get him. So what of those who don't want to have to play as a female for a supposed 100 hour long game just to see Iron Bull's romance content?
Now if he was available to men and women, those people wouldn't have to play as a gender they don't want to in order to experience the content.
Meanwhile, the people who don't want the latter have the option not to do the latter, thus they are satisfied as well.
In this example, more people are satisfied in the latter option than the former.
Yes, very few people are forced to be slaves to a blood mage, having lyrium carved into their bodies and so on.
Well, I doubt any person comes close to that kind of story.
So wouldn't you have found it odd if Fenris had been straight too?
Masculinity and feminity is a very sensitive issue, isn't it?
Yes. It is. Look, here's the thing. You admit that you don't have much experience with gay men. But that doesn't excuse you from being socially aware. If a group of people who do have extensive experience with a subject tell you that your statements are inflammatory and offensive, then perhaps it's time to take a step back and think about it. Going into a thread about gay romances and telling the posters within that you have an issue with certain characters being gay because they are "too masculine" to be gay is, well, offensive. Perhaps you didn't know that's how it would come off. But now you do. It's a particularly sensitive subject to many gay men, for a litany of reasons. One of which is the constant barrage of stereotypes about our masculinity based on our sexuality. That's what you seem to have stumbled on.
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