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Speculation. Nothing is confirmed, obviously. Given that everything else is from the survey has proven true and he's the last unnamed mage and could fit his description (given the possible Tevinter symbols on his gear), it's possible.
Well, at least it seems like we'll find out on Monday (Or Tuesday, perhaps, where I live)
I'm not sure why everyone is so excited about specific LIs.
I was also a fan of all LIs open to both genders, and, barring that, I hope the 2/2/2 hypothesis is true, but at this point I don't see it as more than a conjecture (with a lot of wishful thinking driving it), so I take it with a healthy dose of skepticism. My reaction to male companopns is so:
1. Cullen - the only actually confirmed male LI is someone of whom I'm very leery. His anti-mage feelings, while initially sort-of understandable as due to PTSD, do not condone the murder he puportedly commits in the DAO epilogue. And even if I accept that this has been retconned, and has never happened, his statement at DA2 about mages not being people just shocked and horrified me to the core. Perhaps this is due to my backgrounds (my grandparents were Holocaust survivors, as were many of their friends, and I had stories of the Holocaust surrounding me throughout my life). Just to illustrate why that statement was so horrible to me you can listen to this small section of an interview Craig Ferguson had with Stephen Fry. That said, not a lot of Cullen was revealed in previous games, so that might not be entirly representative of him, and if they manage to present him more fully and somehow address that horrible exclamation of his, I might give him a shot. I just hope they do address that statement, and not just ignore it, or dismiss it as unimportant.
2. The other companions, we know nothing about really, beyond how they look. I don't find any of them particularly attractive. Facial hair is really not something that gets me going (something that apparently puts me in the minority, it seems), the Qunari companion's head seems too small for his body, and Solas... well... some pics he looks OK, but in others he looks like nosferatu. But that is only their appearance, one or all may have winning personalities, which will make them attractive to me despite how I now feel about their looks. It may even cause their appearance to BECOME attractive to me. hell, I initially thought Sebastian was hot. But he was so annoying I stopped seeing that.
But here's the thing: we just don't know anything about them. So how can you tell if you want to romance them?
you might have a good point about Cullen . i didnt like he way he said that mages were not people by saying that 'one could go his whole life thinking that' ...but after all the events that happened in kirkwall and all he has seen, i think his picture on mages have a bit changed , after all ,he saw now that anyone can attract demons and evryone can be possesed not just mages . after he saw of what happend to his own fellows and knight commander ,i like to think he's now moslty confused of what he always believed in, i think he can be flexible and that now ,we could affect his views on things. well at least i'd hope that. after all ,he was never presented as the rest of his order, merciless ,heartless ,sadistic,greedy and opressive...
anyways ,if he's now as i think he is ,i'll be happy to romance him and influence him if not ,am not gonna make happy a mage-hater, at least not in the next ten lifetimes . After all ,there must be at least one blasted templar in this thedas who actually is there to do what in the 'legend' templars were created to do which mean protect and help mages.*sigh* (knowing thrask is the only expection that worth respect ).
Well, there's also Keran, that despite having been kidnapped and tortured by blood mages, seems fair minded in regard to mages. He's a good contrast to Cullen in that regard.
Well, there's also Keran, that despite having been kidnapped and tortured by blood mages, seems fair minded in regard to mages. He's a good contrast to Cullen in that regard.
i don't want to be so sure about this , they didnt make him speak about how he felt afterward ,he just wanted to regain his job for the sake of his sister ,he might start to think like the others , and after all ,he didnt express his point regarding his feelings before and after whats happened ,so my guess is he's still young and will follow his superiors whatever they'll tell him from now. for now.
i don't want to be so sure about this , they didnt make him speak about how he felt afterward ,he just wanted to regain his job for the sake of his sister ,he might start to think like the others , and after all ,he didnt express his point regarding his feelings before and after whats happened ,so my guess is he's still young and will follow his superiors whatever they'll tell him from now. for now.
Well, he said he had nightmares about his experience even years later.
But considering he was part of the coup attempt, he doesn't seem to hate all mages or anything like that.
He also later quits the templars because he says he cannot be a templar with Meredith in charge of the order.
He sounds a lot more interesting than Cullen.
I'm still just over here in gay baby jail not seeing the downside to the "playersexual" model DA2 employed.
In an RPG, the more options available, the better. It doesn't take me out of the story to hear a ton of "you"s and "Hawke"s while I'm playing and I really wish they had stuck with it...
It is SO great to have queer characters in static fiction (books, television, etc.) but in a game I'm specifically playing to be a hundred different heroes (or villains, whatever the options allow), I just want as many options as can possibly be made available.
I am very happy we're having expressly queer characters and love interests with this model but I'm just a big fan of the PS model, I guess.
Options is an interesting perspective. I agree that options are great. Options can mean different things to different people, however. For some, having 4 romance characters is less options than having 6 (if we go with the assumed 2/2/2 - this isn't a confirmation of that btw).
Alternatively, from a production point of view, we can breakdown the options into "cinematic scenes required from a workload perspective." With DA2, there were 8 (one male, one female, for each romanceable character). If we go with 2/2/2, there are again 8 (this is if we ignore player races, which actually shoots this number up to 32!).
Granted this is somewhat of a simplification, because creating a whole new scene rather than repurposing an existing one does create more time. But the 80-20 rule is something that comes into play (80% of the effort required for 20% of the result) I find. In that it's the fine details that take the most effort, and those fine details often incorporate "making the scene work with different player models."
This is something I actually just learned on the project myself! But we'd have to alter how we do the romance content if we wanted to make it more universally available. This might be preferable for some, but I think there'd be plenty of people disappointed with this as well.
He also later quits the templars because he says he cannot be a templar with Meredith in charge of the order.
oh ! i didnt know about that ! maybe i missed it in the game ?! well thats add some good points to him ! he seems a good boy like a soft and blond version of carver ^^
am happy he quits the templars in the end ! he can be better ~
He sounds a lot more interesting than Cullen.
yes am starting to think so too ,more now that i know he quits the templars ! cullen as yet show us something of him !
Thank you for responding, Allan, I definitely hear what you're saying.
I have zero experience with modeling or any kind of computer design so I don't really have a clue (and thus shouldn't be making demands and suggestions on account of it, heh). And don't get me wrong, I know full well this kind of feedback (okay, whining complaint) is addressing the smallest of the small potatoes.
I was working under the false assumption that essentially animation could be blocked out and all of the different models could conceivably mapped onto that animation (I've seen that done in a few mods), though of course certain adjustments would be made to the angles and blocking to insure all the models would fit.
In any case, it's definitely a strong motivator to be sure we're all playing every kind of Inquisitor (if there is an achievement for that this time around).
EDIT: Random sentence fragment removed, sorry!
It'd probably work better with DAO (though there'd still be some issues). But I remember someone saying "For a game about characters, it's a bit silly for us to only really have one base character model/skeleton." I'm inclined to agree
I do remember it being quite odd when Steve Cortez and Shepard had the exact same spot patterns on their backs. 
oh ! i didnt know about that ! maybe i missed it in the game ?! well thats add some good points to him ! he seems a good boy like a soft and blond version of carver ^^
am happy he quits the templars in the end ! he can be better ~
You can find him close to the end of the game near the Hanged Man, and he'll tell you that.
The toggle erases. It says there are no gay people in my game and if there are they will modify their behavior to my liking, but hopefully will not be seen at all.
In real life people are presumed straight, most of the time queer folks struggle to come out and do so daily. You are asking queer characters to stay in the closet.
No, you're twisting what I said. I'm saying, if you're straight, and intend to play a straight character, you don't need toggles, just don't flirt with gay or bi characters, and be polite if they flirt with you. As a non-straight person, I would NEVER expect real-life bi or gay people to stay closeted.
I just realized, you're probably not talking to me there.
Also, reading these threads as a straight person just makes me sad
Some people on both sides are insensitive dockwads......and seeing some people get super emotional makes me realize how much it matters to them while it's not something I'll ever actually have to be concerned about. Just kind of a bummer, because it's something that actually need to "fought" for....idkBummer. Why do you feel sad reading these threads?
As an hetero man i'm feeling alienated by this topic...
Some people on both sides are insensitive dockwads......and seeing some people get super emotional makes me realize how much it matters to them while it's not something I'll ever actually have to be concerned about. Just kind of a bummer, because it's something that actually need to "fought" for....idk
Edit: in retrospect, seems a little self-centered, but there it is
Yeah, insensitive "dockwads" seem to be on both sides of every point on the BSN.
Agreed that it's a bummer that it's something that still needs to be fought for. However, the positive part is that we won't have to fight for it in DA: I since we have Dorian.
Yeah, insensitive "dockwads" seem to be on both sides of every point on the BSN.
Agreed that it's a bummer that it's something that still needs to be fought for. However, the positive part is that we won't have to fight for it in DA: I since we have Dorian.
Yeah, insensitive "dockwads" seem to be on both sides of every point on the BSN.
Agreed that it's a bummer that it's something that still needs to be fought for. However, the positive part is that we won't have to fight for it in DA: I since we have Dorian.
yeah we have Dorian at laaaast !!! and its almost and i say almost enough for me since DA is my top favorite game right now , but i know this isnt near enough when you have 1 over 90% of games where same sex sexuality is no existant as if we're playing in a heterosexual perfect world where only girls and their parts size matter ! i don't want flaming gays ,or half naked gays to rivalise with this, but just for them to exist in those games actually . (so many potential gay characters left sexually-unknown..)
i was going through the section where people describe their inquisitor ,and many will have them gay ! and this is just the guys who took the time to write the description ! not even counting the rest of those off forum ! just go through the net and see !
In in the end we have Dorian and thats all the matter to me ! of course DA2 was fantastic too in this category !
As an hetero man i'm feeling alienated by this topic...
and guys like you should be cloned .
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