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dekarserverbot

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But isn't a sexually ambiguous person just a way of being something not, not being something?

Like can't you be sexually ambiguous and gay, straight, or bi.  I've never really heard of sexually ambiguous as a sexuality by itself.

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welcome to my nightmare... population: you!

 

Not sure I'm understanding.  Could you elaborate and not be so ambiguous?

 

Really though ignoring the pun.  Could you elaborate?

 

Or anyone really.  Because I really am lost here.



#1728
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I keep finding multiple definitions of sexually ambiguous... 

 

Is it possible you and Gaider are working off different definitions or understandings and it's more a misunderstanding than him actually changing the character?


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#1729
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I know. I was just saying that it causes problems when a writer decides to change a character's orientation. As someone who identifies as sexually ambiguous myself I can say it is not a good feeling when a character who thinks is representing what you are for years all of a sudden isn't.

 

I'm sorry I was not aware of that being something you could Identify as. I have to admit that I am ignorant as to what identifying as ambiguous actually means. 

 

Surely though, isn't Merrill still sexually ambiguous? The fact that we know her sexuality does not change the way she expresses it or outwardly shows it. Again though I could be misunderstanding something and I am sorry If I am. 


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I'm sorry I was not aware of that being something you could Identify as. I have to admit that I am ignorant as to what identifying as ambiguous actually means. 

 

Surely though, isn't Merrill still sexually ambiguous? The fact that we know her sexuality does not change the way she expresses it or outwardly shows it. Again though I could be misunderstanding something and I am sorry If I am. 

 

You and me both... :(


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#1731
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okay now we are three... population is increasing.



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But isn't a sexually ambiguous person just a way of being something not, not being something?

Like can't you be sexually ambiguous and gay, straight, or bi.  I've never really heard of sexually ambiguous as a sexuality by itself.

In truth, I still can't explain it that well. But a basic explanation is you know how someone's orientation can be ambiguous to other people? Now imagine that the person themselves are in the same boat as those other people.

 

I keep finding multiple definitions of sexually ambiguous... 

 

Is it possible you and Gaider are working off different definitions or understandings and it's more a misunderstanding than him actually changing the character?

Almost certainly. However I did not know this until after I brought up my being upset after Gaider's...clarification of Merrill's sexual orientation at GaymerX. 


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In truth, I still can't explain it that well. But a basic explanation is you know how someone's orientation can be ambiguous to other people? Now imagine that the person themselves are in the same boat as those other people.

 

Almost certainly. However I did not know this until after I brought up my being upset after Gaider's...clarification of Merrill's sexual orientation at GaymerX. 

So, would it be fair to say you're questioning? :)



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So, would it be fair to say you're questioning? :)

What do you mean? You mean like "Am I *insert orientation here*?"?



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What do you mean? You mean like "Am I *insert orientation here*?"?

Yeah, like, still in the process of figuring stuff out for yourself. :)

Edit: Not attempting to label you in a way you don't wish to be; just trying to make sure everyones on the same page and such :)



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In truth, I still can't explain it that well. But a basic explanation is you know how someone's orientation can be ambiguous to other people? Now imagine that the person themselves are in the same boat as those other people.

 

Almost certainly. However I did not know this until after I brought up my being upset after Gaider's...clarification of Merrill's sexual orientation at GaymerX. 

 

Ah ok, I can see why you would be disappointed then. Thanks for clearing that up for us. 


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#1737
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I'm sorry I was not aware of that being something you could Identify as. I have to admit that I am ignorant as to what identifying as ambiguous actually means. 

 

Surely though, isn't Merrill still sexually ambiguous? The fact that we know her sexuality does not change the way she expresses it or outwardly shows it. Again though I could be misunderstanding something and I am sorry If I am. 

Sorry for missing this, first off. 

As for Merrill still being that, I don't think so. Gaider was pretty resolute both at the panel and with his interview with Ashe that she was just bisexual. Any ambiguity was probably intended to add to her be the virgin option of the game. 

 

Yeah, like, still in the process of figuring stuff out for yourself. :)

Edit: Not attempting to label you in a way you don't wish to be; just trying to make sure everyones on the same page and such :)

I suppose so, I guess. 

I know you aren't. :)

 

 

Ah ok, I can see why you would be disappointed then. Thanks for clearing that up for us. 

Yeah, him bursting that bubble plus also saying that Bioware isn't going to go the ambiguous route anymore is disheartening. 

You're welcome. ^_^



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Yeah, him bursting that bubble plus also saying that Bioware isn't going to go the ambiguous route anymore is disheartening. 

 

Maybe they'll make an ambiguous character in the future, you never know. ^_^



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I have to quote this......(page 66 right now catching up).....

 

 

Anders was not suddenly bi going into DA2. I watched Anders actually get deflected more than once by Oghren in their little chats. Anders keeps checking out Oghren in Awakening, I was using them two together for a length of time that I normally don't, I tended to use Justice over Oghren but decided to change step that last play. There was quite a bit of Oghren telling Anders. The Innuendo was there, it is indicated through Awakening he does like men if watch them talk.   Just putting this out there, cause I never used that combo much in past till recent.

 

 

Heterosexuals get attacked (mind you I am hetero and don't get jumped in here), cause hetero tend to use words that are very aggressive terms. Saying lines as, forced down throat, too many bisexual, too many gay, and any other words is attacking LGBT. If it was not meant to be an attack those terms should never be used. I try to avoid words that are offensive to anyone, but sometimes I do fail, but learn from it.

 

Catching up still:  References, about gay couples... two men at a bench, wouldn't bother me, I'd keep going, two women at a bench, I would pause a moment sure, cause I do like women. I will continue on, but would pause a second. Don't mean to offend, just saying what would happen.

 

Edit: read that wiki Lady Nuggins posted, interesting, covered, with only very small number of games listed versus extreme amount of hetero games then. Thanks. ;)

 

Edit: I will apologize for use of terms they and them. corrected, hopefully...

 

EDIT: hopefully the last time.  I don't say, well that sucks I lost Sera....when in fact, I would still romance her. She was not taken away from me as a choice, cause I could (planned anyways) make a female to romance her. That content was never taken away from me, as an RPG that allows someone to play what they wish, all of it is open for anyone technically. Sera is a lesbian, men can role up a female (doesn't make them less a man, in fact some women that prefer men, would like men seen their point of view as sexy anyways). I don't feel sorry or sad for hetero males one bit. As, catering to males is pretty high still.


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I edited my last post too much, going to post anew. Which means I may double post...

 

 

So, I am getting the idea from dekarserverbot is this.  One person that hides their bisexuality isn't bisexual.  I am reading the words as such I could be wrong but that is what I got.

 

I knew this guy for many years, he always talked about women, flirted with women, never hinted at liking guys ever. I didn't read him as liking men. One day, he ends up with my ex, which he told her. She ended up telling me, he knows I know now but doesn't change anything. It made a little more sense to me on couple things I didn't think about till after, where it was like, oh..... I must not of paid closer attention to few things. He isn't open still, but only few of his friends know. Most still will see him straight as he carries himself straight.

 

Out of his character to be bisexual?!  He didn't want people making a mess over his life, and chose to keep it hidden, and pretty good too. I wouldn't of guessed beforehand. Merrill being bi is no surprise to me when relating to the friend I know as exactly the way she is. She didn't seem to hide one orientation but any orientation to me. Anders didn't hide it in Awakening, it was hinted at more than once. If not paying attention it could get missed, like I did with my friend I mentioned,



#1741
Hanako Ikezawa

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Maybe they'll make an ambiguous character in the future, you never know. ^_^

Possibly, but I highly doubt it. Gaider saying things like him going for set sexualities so there can be "actual representation" seems to suggest that it will never happen. :(



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Sexually ambiguous = demisexual.

I'm lazy, so google the rest.

#1743
Hanako Ikezawa

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Sexually ambiguous = demisexual.

I'm lazy, so google the rest.

I've read it, and while similar I'm not certain it is the same yet.

Sort of like how bisexual and pansexual appear similar and yet are not the same. 



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I'm sad Blackwall is straight and that almost everyone will romance you if you are an elven female.  Fetishes suck.



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my elven female will be happy when I play her and overwhelmed by all the love. :D


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#1746
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I've read it, and while similar I'm not certain it is the same yet.

Sort of like how bisexual and pansexual appear similar and yet are not the same. 

 

What's a pansexual? somebody attracted to little Dragon Ball GT girls?


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#1747
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What's a pansexual? somebody attracted to little Dragon Ball GT girls?

 

... Err, no. It's someone who experiences sexual and/or romantic attraction to anyone regardless of gender or identity. 



#1748
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... Err, no. It's someone who experiences sexual and/or romantic attraction to anyone regardless of gender or identity. 

I think dekaserverbot was making a joke. There is a character in that show named Pan. Sort of like how Varric is "Biancasexual" due to Bianca. 



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I thought about some Pan puns but then I thought they'd probably get panned.


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I've read it, and while similar I'm not certain it is the same yet.

Sort of like how bisexual and pansexual appear similar and yet are not the same. 

 

You know, I actually don't think I've ever heard the difference clearly explained.