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[I_am_Spartacus]

For me its Alister, I can't stand his whining.

[Spectre Impersonator]

I have no love for Lady Isolde. Her voice and demeanor are terribly annoying and she she says Teagan too much.

[Lucy Glitter]

I think here is a clear reason for her to be unlike able. She is a jealous cow and is quite obviously involved with Teagan somehow. I have no sympathy for her nor do many people, to my understanding. Hence why her cameo in DA2 was farcical.

Those hooded couriers, especially the one in the Denerim Market District.

HA HA HA OH. My gosh yes! They have the stupidest outfit, just standing there with those dead eyes. Ahhh man. Totally agree. Such a random addition.

[Aimi]

I don't like Zevran. I don't like the notion that "it's nothing personal". That's crap. Everything is personal.

[Spectre Impersonator]

I think here is a clear reason for her to be unlike able. She is a jealous cow and is quite obviously involved with Teagan somehow. I have no sympathy for her nor do many people, to my understanding. Hence why her cameo in DA2 was farcical.

I think she has something going on with Teagan, or secretly wishes he would consort with her behind the arl's back. I admired that she was willing to die for her child however.

[Ryzaki]

I just killed her today and it was very satisfying. Also, nobody was mad at me for it. It was the best of all worlds.

 

WHO IS DIS MAN TEGAHN good lord I'm not looking forward to that. I love the glitch you get if you kill her with bloodmagic in Alistair's conversation. Yes Alistair everything did indeed turn out just fine.

[Dutchess]

Upon playing through the quest Rescue the Queen, I've remembered one: Erlina, Anora's elven made. First hammering on how important it is to sneak into Howe's estate unnoticed, and then that nagging "hurrryyy" when I tell her we need to put on our disguises.

[KaiserShep]

HA HA HA OH. My gosh yes! They have the stupidest outfit, just standing there with those dead eyes. Ahhh man. Totally agree. Such a random addition.

 

It's even worse if you click on them. They all have some kind of abrupt response. "Leave me to my business". Dammit all to hell I'll leave you to my daggers!

[Tommy6860]

I wouldn't say I hate any of the characters, but I do strongly dislike how Morrigan's used to string players along with deliberately obtuse dialogue and misleading marketing ploys.

Do you think the devs purposefully incorporated that into her character demeanor or are you saying that is Morrigan's basic operation? in the end, I found her nonetheless quite endearing once she expressed either her undying love or friendship to me.  I almost got the sense it was a moment of catharsis for her.

[Corker]

Do you think the devs purposefully incorporated that into her character demeanor or are you saying that is Morrigan's basic operation?

I think Shadow is referring to Witch Hunt. You know, sold as: "Morrigan's secrets revealed!" Delivered as: "Flemeth is the real foe!" (Gasp! No! Say it ain't so! I would never have thought!) "She may not even be human!" (So what may she be? Any ideas?) "Change is coming." (Would it kill you to maybe mention what kind of change?)

It's not her character at all (if anything, Morrigan is usually forthright to the point of bluntness), it's the way she was used to promote the DLC and tease the sequels, without actually delivering any substantial reveals.

[tartan-princess]

Isolde seems to be a jealous person in general. Remember how she scowls at the (female) warden when they first meet (don't know if she's reacting the same when you play a male warden), and how demon!Connor asks her why she hasn't called for the wardens execution yet in a fit of jealousy. Can't stand her either.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Do you think the devs purposefully incorporated that into her character demeanor or are you saying that is Morrigan's basic operation?

 

Corker hit the nail on the head with her reply. It's largely Witch Hunt that irked me, and I might have to rant if they use her that way in DA:I as well.

[Tommy6860]

I think Shadow is referring to Witch Hunt. You know, sold as: "Morrigan's secrets revealed!" Delivered as: "Flemeth is the real foe!" (Gasp! No! Say it ain't so! I would never have thought!) "She may not even be human!" (So what may she be? Any ideas?) "Change is coming." (Would it kill you to maybe mention what kind of change?)

It's not her character at all (if anything, Morrigan is usually forthright to the point of bluntness), it's the way she was used to promote the DLC and tease the sequels, without actually delivering any substantial reveals.

 

Well that definitely makes sense. I didn't consider WH at all in the equation For a while there, I was wondering if she was reading more into just the Origins character itself, or I wasn't . Shadow is definitely awesome at writing and DA lore. I also read your posts quite bit and you're damn good as well, I just never interacted much with you before. HT to you on this as well.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Flemeth appears to be looking long term. Most people assume the old god plan with the baby was a bad thing but I always wonder about that. It's only after they were tainted that the blights began. The tiny amount of taint in Alistair or even the male warden player probably doesn't make it tainted. Unless Flemeth felt the blights were going to end sooner than she wished in which case that is now a new leader of a different sort. It's hard to tell what her plan is but she does have one and she appears to be above the fray looking at some bigger picture. Whether it is good or bad, one cannot even begin to guess. We don't even have a bit of clarity about her or morrigan.

If the OGB was tainted, Thedas would know by now. As for Flemeth's actual plans for the OGB, I believe she wanted to use its power to assist her plans. Morrigan's plans are to instead dye it her colors and use it for her own purposes, and I think one of these might be making sure Flemeth doesn't get the rest of what she wants either.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

So I wonder.. why is she evil again?

We don't know that she is. Morrigan states that she needs to consume a girl's soul every so often and apparently implies that she's the real villain, but I'm uncertain she can be trusted on any of this.

[Corker]

She willingly wants to kill a child's soul, and then raise the newly installed soul for some other purposes. 

 

The embryo isn't ensoulled when the Archdemon dies - that's the point. If it had a soul, the Archdemon would annihilate them both like in the US/WC/LR endings.  At worst, she is preventing a soul from manifesting in flesh. (However that happens, whether it's a psycho-magical part of fetal development in Thedas, or if souls are eternal spiritual constructs that enter into a body, or what.)

 

Now the lessons in parenting she learned from Flemeth are bone-chilling, and I see no reason to think that Morrigan would reject them in favor of something less disturbed, so I'll totally cosign to unease in giving her any child at all to raise.

[Corker]

She absolutely is.  She's a 700-year old something, if she really is the Flemeth of legend. That's plenty of time to learn all sorts of life lessons. Morrigan is a tool that she shaped, entirely on purpose if her conversation with Hawke on Sundermount is any indication.

 

She rescues the Wardens and saves Hawke for reasons other than altruism, methinks.

 

She's clearly not a cackling evil maniac.  She's designed to be an ambiguous figure, which means they can't show her as too good-hearted or too black-hearted.  She's powerful, but what she intends to do with that power isn't clear.  Clearly somebody isn't going to like it, or she wouldn't need to hide.  Now, am I going to agree or disagree with that somebody?  I don't know, but I suspect I'll agree, eventually.

 

If I had to place a bet today, I expect "Flemeth's Choice" to be 1) support Flemeth in bringing some kind of cataclysmic change to the world, or 2) uphold the status quo.  The results of the change will be uncertain (because if it was all guaranteed sunshine and puppies, we'd all pick it).  The change will be tumultuous and people will die.  The PC will have to decide if this is worth whatever outcome Flemeth expects to get from it.

 

If it were  me, I'd toss on an extra layer of complication, making it clear that she is choosing for people, that she thinks she knows what is best for Thedas, or at least what's better.  The Internet arguments that result will be epic.  There would be color-coded infograms, dueling dialogue quotes, and a new contender for Most Undying Thread on the forums.