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[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

If it worked I'd be all for it. I'd head canon it as well. I wish they gave a bit more information on it and actually made it a choice within the game that could change outcomes for the PC.

It worked once. The problem is it (apparently) involves a Fade Spirit, and we have no way of knowing that'll work the same way twice.

[Ryzaki]

My cousland in this game is going to discover she is pregnant just after they are married. A few months of taint and lots of sex will allow for her to conceive. Remember, she's one tough woman. Look at all she's been through. I refuse to let the bleakness of the game destroy my happiness.

 

That's why I won't do a US ending at least not until I'm in that sort of mood or I stop using head canon to make it better.

 

I can see why you felt that way thought. It's just about as depressing as a game gets and US does seem right if you are thinking of how things are or will be. Nothing about all that stuff feels good.

 

XD well since my characters are mostly mistresses now getting preggers defintely would not be wanted D: well save Dalish chick who wandered off to the wardens with Alistair. That's a so so scenario.

 

US is my fav ending though. (And honestly it's what all my characters will default to if I don't like what they do with the warden in Inquisition. Can't be OOC if they're dead.)

 

Yeah it's a choice between sucky and suckier. Like the original ME3 endings XD except I wasn't as "WHAT THE ****" at the ending.

 

But I do this. I'm well aware. That's all I've been saying. I never said you couldn't. Starlitegirl got on my ass earlier, like I was unaware of it.

 

I never said I was forced to play the perfect/optimal character. I'm just saying there's a compulsion to do so. And I wish to resist it.

 

Keep practicising. It usually helps me to do the boring generic good guy run first then to test out the other outcomes in the game with darker characters.

[Ryzaki]

Actually, I might say it's the first run that's the best. Because you're walking in the dark a bit.

 

Eh I usually spoil the hell out of myself. So not that much in the dark.

[Aimi]

What's there to disagree on? He didn't want to fully commit to the abolitionist standpoint right away. He even suggested a plan to just ship slaves away and help them colonize elsewhere. What his chief concern at first was holding the Republic together. He would entertain any notion to do so.

He was elected on a platform of not extending slavery into the territories, and of not altering slavery where it existed. To commit to an abolitionist policy at the outset of the war would have forfeited popular support. Abolitionism was the policy of only a small minority of Northern voters in 1860; most of the votes for Lincoln had come from people that thought it was okay that slavery was still a Thing. A President is not and has never been a dictator, and cannot do what a dictator would do. Had Lincoln tried to executive-order slavery away at the outset, he would have faced a direct challenge from the Supreme Court on its constitutionality and probably a direct challenge from the Congress because that wasn't what most Congressmen signed up for. Avoiding certain legal defeat isn't dilly-dallying. That legal defeat would have imposed a cost, and would have restricted the administration's ability to set later policy. Better to wait until public opinion in favor of emancipation could grow. Better to wait until Chief Justice Taney died and an antislavery man could be appointed in his place. Better to wait until the situation on the ground changed so much that it would be impossible to keep the emancipation genie back in the bottle no matter how hard the politicians at home tried.

Even though Lincoln followed a formal policy in Washington of not following through with emancipation, the reality in the field was drastically different. Only a few weeks after the attack on Fort Sumter, the first escaped slaves made their way through the lines at Fortress Monroe, and the initiative of the commander on the spot, Benjamin Butler, created the policy of seizing slaves as "contraband of war" on the grounds that they were being used to aid a military rebellion against the lawfully constituted United States government. It took a fair amount of hemming and hawing, but this contraband legal argument was accepted by the Lincoln administration and deployed successfully later on. Lincoln had to rein in a number of commanders who tried to go further (David Hunter, John Frémont), but that was more out of fear that to allow them to make proclamations outright ending slavery would arouse the ire of the non-Radicals in Congress and of the Supreme Court.

Yeah, Lincoln came up with a colonization plan, and yeah he later swung away from that on the advice of some abolitionist leaders. Sure. Other contemporary abolitionists thought that colonization was a perfectly fine idea and an equitable solution to the country's difficulties. Lincoln himself took an extreme interest in the prototype colonization plan that was started in the Caribbean during the war, with an eye toward making sure that it would work out well for everybody involved, blacks included. When it didn't, he scrapped the idea. It's hard for me to see how that's obviously morally unjust.

You say that Lincoln "dilly-dallied" before he "gave in to the abolitionists". That implies that, had he wanted to implement a policy of emancipation, he could have realistically done things in another, faster way. I don't see how that's plausible. He allowed, and eventually endorsed, the policy of war contraband essentially from the outbreak of the war. He tried a number of schemes - compensated emancipation in Delaware, relocating former slaves abroad - designed to settle the slavery and race issues peacefully and amicably to the benefit of both sides, before eventually settling on the emancipation program that we saw. As it was, he had to hammer it through Congress and through the court of public opinion every step of the way. Even the Thirteenth Amendment, famously, almost lost out on the floor of the House of Representatives, and that was in 1865 when it should have been eminently clear to everybody involved that the war was fundamentally about slavery.

I mean, I'd be the first one to point out that Lincoln was no saint; the man was the leader of a nation at war, who (however reluctantly) sent men to fight and kill and die in the hundreds of thousands. Condemning him for his political efforts on slavery, I think, misses the mark.

[Aimi]

Exactly the opposite. How did you even come to this?
 
I'd say I want terrible consequences at times. I play fail characters on purpose just to do so.

You want choices with consequences that are obviously worse than others, but you don't want choices with consequences that are obviously better than others? That seems contradictory. And if that's not your point, well, I still don't see whatever your point is.

[Ryzaki]

What do you mean spoil?

 

I bought it at launch in 2009. No DLC. Probably missed a lot of side quests. Went with the Ultimate Sacrifice. Funny that I bought into the Grey Wardens then.

 

Figure out most of the plot points.

 

There were spoilers when the CC came out. XD usually being on the forums gives you a decent outlook of the game before it hits shelves (yay for leaks).

[Xilizhra]

Elves - This one is the only one that has an ideal ending if you can get Zathrian to sacrifice himself, which is really no great loss in my book. So this one I will agree that you can walk away feeling pretty good about that. BUT it looks like their home was hit by the taint on the map so they might not pay a price up front but they'll have to move and where to? The outskirts I guess. But keep in mind that they hadn't moved in a while because of the curse. So this will be a big upheaval for them.

The Dalish are nomads, they're highly used to it.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

As much as I don't like the Wardens, I don't wish to Fed Ex them to be experimented on by Avernus. lol

 

Sometimes I'm fine using the power of blood thing for myself though. And then discouraging him from replicating the same process. It's a hypocritical thing to do, but I kind of like it this way. It's yet another example of just different roleplaying.

It makes sense on a utilitarian scale. Making the potion was probably a loss given how many lives Avernus took for what doesn't appear to be much gain. On the other hand, destroying the potion when it already exists denies you power that you can use to do good, to nobody's gain. Bear in mind that whether or not the potion grants enough power to be worth the lives lost, the lives are lost.

[Ryzaki]

I always do the good guy runs first then I go darker. By the time I stopped skyrim I was going on murder sprees.

 

XD I am starting my darker characters in Skyrim (but my damn save corrupted #F)#J@#)@#)FN@# ) so I just went back to my good guy. My assassin was lvl damn 30 to and had just finished the DB and CoW quests I'll remake him into a Breton or something and try again.

 

 

I don't know why, but I instantly go on murder sprees in TES. First time I played Morrowind, I caused havoc right off the boat.

 

XD I tried to going a muder spree in Riverwood but there were a few essential PCs and they killed my buzz >_>

[Ryzaki]

Murder sprees that are fun are in whiterun and Markarth. So much fun for them --- oh and Solitude. You have to hit a larger hold otherwise it kind of sucks. I used to screw up the opening in solitude where they are about to behead the guy. If you walk up on the stage, the guards attack you. It's hysterical. And I would also pick the gate at the thalmor embassy and go in the guard quarters and kill the thalmor in there. Then hit the ones outside. Shout some of them to death. Oh and I would do shouting death matches with what's his face - why can't I remember his name... the leader of the non imperial faction. Damn, it's been a bit I guess. I would go into the palace and just shout at him since he killed the king with a shout. Felt funny to me.

 

Blocking out the sun with the blood soaked arrows then going to a big hold is hysterical. Everyone is freaked about it. Skyrim was brilliant with that stuff. Those NPCs are awesome!

 

They are. I decided to remake my jerish Breton. He's gonna be a dual wielding daggers/archery/familiar/poisoner summoning bot XD

 

And I never pick being a vampire. I figured the whole no sunlight thing would be a major pain

 

<- lazy

[Xetykins]

Never played skyrim nor ME because the controls threw me off. I tried to like ME but I think im shooting my own foot the whole time cuz im the one dying all the time instead of the mobs. I could spend a whole round on one mob and seems like theyre just pointing at me laughing :-(