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[Ryzaki]

Well, it's my first playthrough and although I've seen a couple of spoilers I've largely managed to avoid them, so it's not as if I know what's going to happen in any great detail (e.g. I knew there was something called the Dark Ritual but not what it was). I do tend to spoiler myself on what the alternative options would've done as soon as I've made a decision though

 

Still, by and large a very good game.

 

D: why are you here if you're trying to avert spoilers. Shoo Shoo! *waves away*

 

Ah that it is despite the several wtf moments near the ending.

[Ryzaki]

There's rape in the circle tower.

 

I understand why it's used. It's horribly and it is not uncommon sadly.

 

That said I would like someone with a happy backstory that's an ******* because people are sometimes just assholes.

 

 

So it edits at the singular but not the plural? LOL they need to fix this

[Ryzaki]

There's a rape in the tower? Where is that? Dear god they just have a rape fetish I guess.

 

I'm using information from DA2. Anders does state the Templars raped the mages and he was lucky enough to avoid it.

 

It makes sense there. It is pretty much a oppressive environment (prison was a bad way of putting it) with a severe power imbalance.

 

I don't see it as a fetish as much as it's common and easily seen as indefensible so it's a quick way of creating conflict, negativity towards an institution or an antagonist.

[Ryzaki]

DA2 has pretty much everyone look bad. Templars are abusing their powers and mages are using bloodmagic. At the end of that game I'd gladly take nuke them all and have the Maker sort em out solution.

[Cobra's_back]

I'm using information from DA2. Anders does state the Templars raped the mages and he was lucky enough to avoid it.

 

It makes sense there. It is pretty much a oppressive environment (prison was a bad way of putting it) with a severe power imbalance.

 

I don't see it as a fetish as much as it's common and easily seen as indefensible so it's a quick way of creating conflict, negativity towards an institution or an antagonist.

 

Doesn't this make Wynne look incredibly stupid? She supports the imprisonment of mages that are sexually abused. 

[Xilizhra]

Doesn't this make Wynne look incredibly stupid? She supports the imprisonment of mages that are sexually abused. 

Something that our side wonders about a great deal.

[Ryzaki]

Doesn't this make Wynne look incredibly stupid? She supports the imprisonment of mages that are sexually abused. 

 

Sexual abuse happens just about everywhere. It's a dark side of the someone having power and influence over anyone else (parents, teachers, military, so on) especially someone who is either too scared or ashamed to tell someone who could possibly put a stop to it what happened. Then of course are the cultures (of which the sad majority is) that look down upon victims who do try discouraging the rest form even attempting it via victim blaming. There are ways to minimize it (which I feel the templars have failed at thus why I want reformations) but eventually humanities dark side rears it's ugly head.

 

Bleeeh I haven't had nearly enough to eat to voice this properly.

[Cobra's_back]

Sexual abuse happens just about everywhere. It's a dark side of the someone having power and influence over anyone else (parents, teachers, military, so on) especially someone who is either too scared or ashamed to tell someone who could possibly put a stop to it what happened. Then of course are the cultures (of which the sad majority is) that look down upon victims who do try discouraging the rest form even attempting it via victim blaming. There are ways to minimize it (which I feel the templars have failed at thus why I want reformations) but eventually humanities dark side rears it's ugly head.

 

Bleeeh I haven't had nearly enough to eat to voice this properly.

 

Very true and if the stupid women had half a brain she wouldn't support mages locked up. I would have let the people stay with their families and go to a mage school. It doesn't end the problem but it will cut it down because you have someone to go to your family. Not keep them there 24/7.

 

They have created a breeding ground for abomination. When these people are raped who will defend them? Family is the first group that sees red and wants to hang someone. This all makes me really angry. There are times in the game I just want to slap someone or kick them in the nuts. God knows I want to slap Wynne and kick Cullen in the nuts. I hate that the nice Templars die and the dirtbags live.

 

Anders was correct in wanting freedom. it was his method I didn't agree with and made things worst not better. They didn't free the mages. They actually cracked down harder. It is BW way of making everything stink.

[Ryzaki]

I already voiced my thoughts on how the Circles should be tweaked. But they defintely need to be there 24/7 until they pass their harrowing/ have lived for a few years in the tower.

 

Well depends on the family really there's some where there's a good chance many if not all call you a liar.

 

I...disagreed with Anders. Rivaled him just about everytime I don't kill him. The PC's that "friend" him (which is usually just because they're rivaling Fenris and dragged Anders around for haste bot) usually barely tolerate him.

 

But yeah the mage/templar issue (which honestly I really hope is marginalized in DAI. I was already tired of it by DA2.) was meh. Too many idiots on both sides and the moderates kept getting killed off by idiots and forced into corners by extremists.

[Ryzaki]

Wynne sucks. She's almost not even worth siding with mages in the Broken Circle quest. I almost want to side with Morrigan on that place. All because of Wynne's role later on.

 

What she do?

 

I wish my mage could just facepalm at Morrigan right there honestly.

[Ryzaki]

Oh yeah that. My Human Noble was kind of just sighing at that. (And he was the noble good guy but he had enough of being backstabbed and the warden revelations that his reaction to her "noble and good" tripe was to rub his temples). And yeah it bugs me too. Especially since the PC might not have even wanted to become a warden. I guess the DR is just one way of tweaking your nose at all that tripe.

[ShadowLordXII]

It's canon that two Wardens will never have children together, IIRC. It's just barely possible as it is for a non-Warden to have a child with one, and Morrigan was very obviously using magic to ensure conception (which you can't ensure from sex between ordinary people anyway).

 

Actually the exact words are "next-to-impossible"

[Cobra's_back]

Nothing I want to kill her over. I just entertain the idea. She's a stranger who crowns herself moral advisor right away, but all she does is repeat children's stories and naive ideals. She expects you to break romances with other characters.. for whatever reason. I guess she thinks you're supposed to be a Warrior monk who doesn't care about enjoying life. She doesn't know anything about the Wardens, but wants to "thank" me for sacrificing so much for the "rest of us". Something about that really gets me. That there are people like her who expect you to give up everything and sacrifice for them.

 

It's one thing to sacrifice and give things up of your own will. Another to have it expected. lol

She does one more thing. Miss preachy brings a child into the world and lets the Templars take that child away. The Chantry has her convinced that sleeping around is fine. You just can't have a family. 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

She does one more thing. Miss preachy brings a child into the world and lets the Templars take that child away. The Chantry has her convinced that sleeping around is fine. You just can't have a family. 

I think mage sex is discouraged, actually. Anders notes that you want to have it done quickly, so that the Templars don't catch you. Hence the robes. (Wynne also notes mage unions are discouraged, though her words could have been construed to just refer to marriage.)

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

You do get a statue in Weisshaupt if you do everything like a good boy or girl and just die.

Well thanks for telling me, because I was sure as hell never going to know.

[Cobra's_back]

I think mage sex is discouraged, actually. Anders notes that you want to have it done quickly, so that the Templars don't catch you. Hence the robes. (Wynne also notes mage unions are discouraged, though her words could have been construed to just refer to marriage.)

 

Kinda makes her a big hypocrite. She made in clear in several conversations that she had woke up to younger man and they had the magic bullet to stop pregnancies. I guess it doesn't work all the time because she had a child.