Also, the Catalyst mentions Shepard will be affected, and Shepard doesn't have Reaper code.
The implication is pretty shoddy, because in the context used throughout the game, "synthetic" is used to describe machinery with artificial intelligence, which Shepard isn't in any way. Honestly the Catalyst's mention of Shepard being partly synthetic doesn't really mean anything, because in a sense, so is Garrus after his surgery in ME2, even if not nearly as extensively.
@Steelcan
Yes, dammit, you got me hooked on that show!
...and there absolutely should have been some interaction between Reegar and Miranda.
If you ever find yourself lacking for entertainment I can probably find something else up your alley
I see Destroy as an AI "reset" pulse. Save for those two Reapers in Earth's orbit (and the Crucible's immediate radius), they kind of just topple over when hit by the red wave. I do not think it's hardware destruction of any type, just total mental wipe-out.
Kinda like going back to factory defaults, affected machines remain functional.
You know what this means. Joker's going to hang on to that Eva mech.
But seriously, how in hell would it be able to know what constitutes a "synthetic." The Geth were, for most if not all of their existence just a conglomerate of computer programs that were interconnected. Basically the internet.
Well this is the machine that can alter all live in the galaxy at the genetic level (including metal and plastic!) but only by having a guy jump into a giant beam of energy.
You know what this means. Joker's going to hang on to that Eva mech.
implications unpleasant
implications unpleasant
Why we never got to ask about what kind of lubrication she uses in front of Joker is beyond me.
Why we never got to ask about what kind of lubrication she uses in front of Joker is beyond me.
You just know Joker and Donnelly had some talks about this
*reads past few posts*
I swear English is my first (and really only) language, despite my tendency to jumble letters, omit words, and ignore punctuation....
You just know Joker and Donnelly had some talks about this
"So, heeeey, Joker. You anh EDEH evah get it on?"
"Uhhh, not really, no."
"You wanna?"
"Haven't really thought about it. Don't really want a broken pelvis. Hell, I don't even know if it's possible."
"So, those mooks at Cerberus built a hot sexy robot lady and didn't even give her propah lubrication? Why am I not surprised."
"Wait, what?"
^ Yeah, I'm not touching any of this.
That's why you are in the bunk
Da Crucible!
http://en.wikipedia....ng#The_Crucible
The Crucible is the final test in recruit training, and represents the culmination of all of the skills and knowledge a Marine should possess. Designed in 1996[16] to emphasize the importance of teamwork in overcoming adversity, the Crucible is a rigorous 54-hour field training[17] exercise demanding the application of everything a recruit has learned until that point in recruit training, and includes a total of 48 miles of marching.[18] It simulates typical combat situations with strenuous testing, hardship, and the deprivation of food and sleep. A recruit is given 2.5 MREs (meal, ready-to-eat, a self-contained, individual field ration) and eight hours of sleep through the entire 54-hour event.[18] Recruits are broken into squad-sized teams (possibly smaller) and placed under the charge of one drill instructor. West Coast recruits are returned to Edson Range for the Crucible. Parris Island recruits will conduct the Crucible in the derelict Page Airfield on the south end of the depot.
Throughout the Crucible, recruits are faced with physical and mental challenges that must be accomplished before advancing further.[19][20] Teamwork is stressed, as the majority of tasks are impossible without it; each group must succeed or fail as a whole. The others will fail unless every recruit passes through together, requiring the team to aid their fellow recruit(s) who struggle in the accomplishment of the given mission. Also stressed are the Corps' core values of Honor, Courage, and Commitment; events sometimes present a moral challenge.[16] Many challenge events are named after Marine Medal of Honor recipients or otherwise notable Marines, and drill instructors will often take the time to read the citation of the award and hold a guided discussion with the recruits to evaluate their moral development. Drill instructors are also vigilant for those recruits who succeed and fail in leadership positions.
Some of the challenges encountered during the Crucible are team and individual obstacle courses, day and night assault courses, land navigation courses, individual rushes up steep hills, large-scale martial arts challenges, and countless patrols to and from each of these. Often, these challenges are made even more difficult by the additions of limitations or handicaps, such as the requirement to carry several ammunition drums, not touching portions of an obstacle painted red to indicate simulated booby traps, and evacuating team members with simulated wounds.
On the final day of the Crucible, recruits are awoken and begin their final march (including "The Reaper" a forced march up a steeply inclined hill to the top of Edson's Ridge on the west coast). Following this is the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor ceremony, where the recruits receive the eponymous emblem, and thereby cease to be recruits, finally becoming Marines. Immediately after this, Marines hike back down the The Reaper and are then offered the "Warrior's Breakfast", where they are permitted to eat as much as they like, even of previously forbidden foods, such as ice cream.
Congratulations. You passed the test. You defeated the Reaper threat, and became a legend.
Yet the device you refer to as the Crucible is little more than a power source...
If that's the case, what are the waves? Why does Destroy appear as a great fire, ravaging the Earth (to various degrees) yet still leave most of us alone? Why does Synthesis have the capability to write circuitry on everything, including our clothing?
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After some time and some rearranging of thought I felt I could post this again with a clearer mind. And the new Forum format provided me with such a right time. So anyway on with the improved idea.
Merely a note, but this idea assumes you choose the destroy option and as well you deemed it unfair that the Geth and EDI shared the Reaper's fate.
As we know. The Crucible is designed to target all synthetic life and destroy them indiscriminately. With this in consideration, we know the Crucible also has the war asset of Interferometric Array which gives us a real time location of the location of every Reaper in the Galaxy, thus giving us an accurate targeting reticule.
Now the idea. What we know in Mass Effect 2, we were sent to a dead Reaper so that we may collect it's IFF which then would identify us as a Reaper to the Omega 4 relay. The Omega-4 relay is designed so that only Reaper identified entities would be allowed to pass through. So with this in mind, by utilizing the device on the Omea-4 relay and implementing it on the Crucible, and with the assistance of the Interferometric Array, it can be argued with these two together you can target the Reapers alone due to the unique nature of the ever evolving signal of that the Reapers give off with the IFF. The Omega-4 Relay device is able to keep with the Reaper's ever evolving signal so it can still target the Reapers while sparing all other Synthetic life.
Since the other relays are also Reaper technology, they should have no problem accepting the Omega-4 device's parameters as they all launch their own individual beams only effecting the Reapers because thanks to the Omega-4 device its only set to respond to things who Share the Reaper Signal.
Of course one can still argue that the Geth and EDI would be effected by the Crucible by share the Reaper code, and EDI's own IFF. First off, the Geth can be spared sole based on the fact that they may have Reaper Code, but they don't share the Reaper Signal that identifies them as Reapers.
As for EDI who carries the very device that the Crucible targets with this modification can come out of it. As stated in Mass Effect 2, it took EDI some time to fully incorporate the IFF into her system. So in the same allotted time, it can be said that she can simply uninstall the IFF thus rendering safe from the Crucible.
And that is the idea.
This idea assumes that someone knows what the crucible will do when it's activated. Within the game the only one who knew that was the catalyst, and he only knew that after it was docked with the citadel. Also I'm guessing that they, (as in the crucible builders), might be kinda leery about connecting a reaper device to the thing that's supposed to save them from the reapers.
This idea assumes that someone knows what the crucible will do when it's activated. Within the game the only one who knew that was the catalyst, and he only knew that after it was docked with the citadel. Also I'm guessing that they, (as in the crucible builders), might be kinda leery about connecting a reaper device to the thing that's supposed to save them from the reapers.
The Leviathans probably have a good idea of what the crucible will do when activated as well. And another thing that's been bugging me about the ending. What about the systems that don't have a relay? Wouldn't Levi be outside of the crucible blast? And what about the far end citadel relay out in dark space? That's reaper tech too and one could logically assume that there is some form of reaper guardian posted up there.
The Leviathans probably have a good idea of what the crucible will do when activated as well. And another thing that's been bugging me about the ending. What about the systems that don't have a relay? Wouldn't Levi be outside of the crucible blast? And what about the far end citadel relay out in dark space? That's reaper tech too and one could logically assume that there is some form of reaper guardian posted up there.
One Reaper isn't much of a threat.
This idea assumes that someone knows what the crucible will do when it's activated. Within the game the only one who knew that was the catalyst, and he only knew that after it was docked with the citadel. Also I'm guessing that they, (as in the crucible builders), might be kinda leery about connecting a reaper device to the thing that's supposed to save them from the reapers.
We installed a Reaper heart on to the Crucible. I think it will be fine with another modification.
I'm not sure why people believe Destroy works by targeting Reaper code. There's more evidence to support the view that whoever built the Crucible simply built it to destroy all synthetics. Perhaps in a cycle where the Reapers had overtaken the AI races and used them against the organics.
In the original endings the Crucible appeared to go beyond just targeting synthetics and destroyed all technology, knocking the galaxy back into a pre-space flight dark age. That appeared to the original implications of the Stargazer scene, and comments by Mac Walters also seemed to confirm that was the intent.
The Extended Cut heavily retconned all of that however, and the dark age never occurs in High EMS endings. (despite the stargazer scene still being present)
Post EC it only affects synthetics. In either case, as you noted, its all a bit space magicky and not explained.
In the original endings the Crucible appeared to go beyond just targeting synthetics and destroyed all technology, knocking the galaxy back into a pre-space flight dark age. That appeared to the original implications of the Stargazer scene, and comments by Mac Walters also seemed to confirm that was the intent.
The Extended Cut heavily retconned all of that however, and the dark age never occurs in High EMS endings. (despite the stargazer scene still being present)
Post EC it only affects synthetics. In either case, as you noted, its all a bit space magicky and not explained.
Isn't the Stargazer scene the same for all endings pre-EC?
I always thought the implication was that the Relays were destroyed cutting off the galaxy from reaching each other.
Isn't the Stargazer scene the same for all endings pre-EC?
I always thought the implication was that the Relays were destroyed cutting off the galaxy from reaching each other.
It seemed to destroy all technology, since they were also unable to preserve Shepard's history and he (or she) had morphed into a legendary figure like Gilgamesh or Achilles or Beowulf. Also the stargazer's dialogue seems to indicate that they no longer space faring at all, since he speaks of a hopeful future where they would once again reach for the stars.
Of course that scene is still present post-EC, it just makes less sense (as in none) after the EC.
How Casey was unaware of the obvious implication that Team Dextro would starve to death after crash-landing on an alien world they flew off to for no reason is beyond me.It seemed to destroy all technology, since they were also unable to preserve Shepard's history and he (or she) had morphed into a legendary figure like Gilgamesh or Achilles or Beowulf. Also the stargazer's dialogue seems to indicate that they no longer space faring at all, since he speaks of a hopeful future where they would once again reach for the stars.
Of course that scene is still present post-EC, it just makes less sense (as in none) after the EC.
How Casey was unaware of the obvious implication that Team Dextro would starve to death after crash-landing on an alien world they flew off to for no reason is beyond me.
First Draft Theory?
The Leviathans probably have a good idea of what the crucible will do when activated as well.
When shep asks about the crucible, Leviathan says, "We have watched its construction before. It has never been completed. Those who have tried still fell victim to the harvest. Its outcome is unknown."
We installed a Reaper heart on to the Crucible. I think it will be fine with another modification.
Good point, forgot about that.
Reaper heart. Reaper brain. 'Power source'.
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