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[Nyeredzi]

According to the Band of Three, and Codex, The forbidden Ones taught humans blood magic. This may contradict the common dogma that it was the old gods who taught man blood magic, however it still goes on to say that the Forbidden Ones conversed with the Magus, and made many deals, and giving them "Forbidden Knowledge"

 

These Forbidden Ones are Fade Creatures, that taught many magics to the Old Tervinters of Kirkwall, blood magics. Among these their numbers is the one called "The Formless One"

 

According to Morrigan, Flemeth is not even truely human at all. She never was.

 

My point is that Flemeth is one of the Forbidden Ones.

 

I think she is the "Formless One", since she is just a shape shifting entity, that can divide itself, should its other parts be destroyed. She could also possess and turn/incarnate into her daughters, even though she is alive elsewhere, proving she is formless.

 

These Forbidden Ones possess unknown magic, the magic that Flemeth, the "Formless One" might possess would be shape-shifting. And she teaches that to her daughter/s, and mybe not the Magisters.

 

Flemeth being an Old God would be like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. All seven of them are supposed to be locked in their prisons according to lore.

[Hellion Rex]

Bingo. This is one of my leading theories regarding the identity of Flemeth. However, something doesn't add up. Flemeth once mentioned having a mother, which possibly negates her being this top tier demonic entity.

[Nyeredzi]

Bingo. This is one of my leading theories regarding the identity of Flemeth. However, something doesn't add up. Flemeth once mentioned having a mother, which possibly negates her being this top tier demonic entity.

I don't recall, when did she mention this?

[whogotsalami]

Gaxkang and Xebececk are already "dealt with"

 

Yes, that's an interesting theory. That would leave out Imshael. Wondering what entity it might be

[Hellion Rex]

I don't recall, when did she mention this?

It was in a very brief snippet of dialogue in Origins when Flemeth sends Morrigan with you.

[Nyeredzi]

It was in a very brief snippet of dialogue in Origins when Flemeth sends Morrigan with you.

With her, I might need a quote, cause....she's..... Flemeth......

 

She probably lied, just as she lied/twisted the truth to morrigan about herself, and her past

 

Also as I said, morrigan told us that she isn't an abomination, nor is she even human. What else other than a spirit...a shape changing evil one

[Hellion Rex]

With her, I might need a quote, cause....she's..... Flemeth......

 

She probably lied, just as she lied/twisted the truth to morrigan about herself, and her past

 

Also as I said, morrigan told us that she isn't an abomination, nor is she even human. What else other than a spirit...a shape changing evil one

Yeah, it's a very rare piece of dialogue, and I myself heard about it only recently. I'll do my best to locate it for you though.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I personally think Flemeth will be something we don't know about until she reveals it. 

[DrBlingzle]

I personally think Flemeth will be something we don't know about until she reveals it.

I hope not. what/whoever she is I hope it just turns the DA universe on its side and leaves me with my jaw on the floor.

Anyway nice idea. At this point there are about a dozen intresting and plausable flemeth theories I've heard and this is certainly joining them.

[azarhal]

Yeah, it's a very rare piece of dialogue, and I myself heard about it only recently. I'll do my best to locate it for you though.

 

It's not rare, you have to pick the right dialog option in the exchange before Morrigan joins you. It's just not a popular choice. She says something like (paraphrasing) "My mother always said duties come before revenge".

 

People should replay DAO just to try all the options in that conversation though. Lots of hints about the game plots and other interesting things.

[Nyeredzi]

It's not rare, you have to pick the right dialog option in the exchange before Morrigan joins you. It's just not a popular choice. She says something like (paraphrasing) "My mother always said duties come before revenge".

 

People should replay DAO just to try all the options in that conversation though. Lots of hints about the game plots and other interesting things.

She could be referring to the Flemeth who raised her before taking on, or mantling this current form.

 

seeing how there are many witches of the wilds, meaning she becomes her daughters, or her daughters become her

[Damate]

Huh, the Formless One would certainly suit Flemeths penchant for shape shifting, possession, not dying when she "should", etc. Still, I'm holding out hope that she's a high dragon, tied to the old gods, rather than a demon. Her reference to a mother and said mums teachings on revenge drew me to the idea of Flemeth as the offspring of Urzara, daughter of Urthemiel. Urzara was supposedly slain on the Minanter river in the Free Marches, which - for me - made Sundermount a likely spot for the Elven ritual that activates the shard of Flemeths soul (or whatever it was) as per the Act 1 boon/quest. And using Urthemiel for the Dark Ritual also makes sense: preserving/cleansing an ancestors spirit, if the wild theory holds any inkling of truth.

Ultimately I expect the truth about Flemeth will be something that surprises us all, though.

[Mirrman70]

but the other two are just side bosses of no importance. why would she be one of them. I think she is far more unique than a spirit/demon/old god/elven god etc.

 

I think she is a being that has worked behind the scenes for longer than there is history. perhaps a remnant of when the Thedas was young and not even the elves had any foothold. I think we won't learn her true goal or what she truly is until the very end. or at least I hope not. I have always like the existence of characters in fictional series who are in every different story but you never quite know what they are up to until it is all tied together at the end.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Flemeth could be lots of things. And frequently is. Simultaneously, even.

[Damate]

but the other two are just side bosses of no importance. why would she be one of them. I think she is far more unique than a spirit/demon/old god/elven god etc.
 
I think she is a being that has worked behind the scenes for longer than there is history. perhaps a remnant of when the Thedas was young and not even the elves had any foothold. I think we won't learn her true goal or what she truly is until the very end. or at least I hope not. I have always like the existence of characters in fictional series who are in every different story but you never quite know what they are up to until it is all tied together at the end.

I agree in that I'd like Flemeth to be around for a good while yet!

[KC_Prototype]

I like your theory but I think Flemeth was once human in her lifetime, maybe eons ago but still once human.

[Divine Justinia V]

I personally think Flemeth will be something we don't know about until she reveals it. 

 

Exactly, I think the only way we'll find out is not through word of mouth or codex or what have you, but, by her - when she's ready, on her terms.

[1483749283]

The probability that Flemeth is associated with blood magic is exceedingly low. She does not fit the profile of entities associated with such activities. We feel her faction represents a third path towards magic, distinct from the other two.

[phantomrachie]

I don't think we'll ever really know what Flemeth is. She is the only person who could tell us and she is the very definition of a lying narrator.

 

If she does tell us what she is or how she came to be; I think she'll be a unique creature and not something we've read about in a Codex.

 

I think its very unlikely that she'll be a Forgotten One, Flemeth seems to represent a third way of Magic, not a blood mage/demon but not a chantry mage/spirit.

[Xilizhra]

Flemeth could be possessed by the Formless One... but her connection to dragons seems a bit too strong for her to be truly demonic.

[shonawarrior]

Flemeth could be possessed by the Formless One... but her connection to dragons seems a bit too strong for her to be truly demonic.

how is she even connected to dragons, she just shapeshifts into one,

 

and yavana.....oh yeah yavana...work that staff...   ...I mean yavana is a different Flemeth, just as morrigan was a diferent Flemeth, 

[myahele]

I never thought Flemeth a liar. A withholder of information and long winded truth, yes, but not a liar.

I believe thay Flemeth the person existed and she somehow did an anders/wynne with a forbidden one. After so long you can't tell where Flemeth and that spirit begin and ends

[shonawarrior]

I never thought Flemeth a liar. A withholder of information and long winded truth, yes, but not a liar.

I believe thay Flemeth the person existed and she somehow did an anders/wynne with a forbidden one. After so long you can't tell where Flemeth and that spirit begin and ends

i like yours

[Spectre Impersonator]

I think she is the "Formless One", since is just a shape shifting entity, that can divide itself, should its other parts be destroyed. She could also possess and turn/incarnate into her daughters, even though she is alive elsewhere, proving she is formless.

 

These Forbidden Ones possess unknown magic, the magic that Flemeth, the "Formless One" might possess would be shape-shifting. And she teaches that to her daughter/s, and mybe not the Magisters.

She doesn't really seem that powerful to me. Even in dragon form, she was slain by my mabari war dog. I know that those dogs are pretty badass and intelligent but...

 

She also called her "amulet form" a piece of insurance for what she expected Morrigan to do (which was have her killed, I assume). Would a Formless One need this sort of backup plan and require a low level Hawke to carry it across the ocean for her? If Bioware had given me a choice, I'd have thrown it overboard into the Waking Sea.

[myahele]

^^

Those same formless one where killed with a mabari depending on play through as well as an archdemon.

She seems to have a degree of omniscience, hence why she believed her daughter might kill her and her run in with Hawke. She is still alive, while the others have been vanquished.