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[KaiserShep]

I'd have been happier with Thessia if we could take out that gunship like in Garrus' ME2 recruit, or Samara's for that matter, or Kasumi's LM. I mean, come on, I killed 4 or 5 harvesters rescuing Lt. Victus on Tuchanka (I can hear Garrus now saying, "Five worm-necks, huh? That's almost impressive.")

 

I should be able to take out one Cerberus gunship. I'd even have been okay with Kai-Leng sneaking away with the prothean data while I did kill the gunship, but at least let me fight it.

 

Yeah, designing that battle better would have taken the meta-sting out of it.

[Daemul]

I would have too. I agonized over the decision, but as the interrupt came up, I had no other choice than to go with the choice that seemed like the right choice to me. I felt compelled to do it, and it emotionally tore me apart inside, but I kept on going even though it made me feel so terrible.

 

 

It's a marvel of writing, really.

 

I shot him too. It was hard, but it had to be done. Mordin was letting his guilt cloud his judgement, he could no longer carry the burden of the genophage, so I decided to carry it for him and let him rest.

 

RIP Mordin

[Propelled Rage]

I don't know if it was particular moments for me as much as it was that bloody soundtrack. I feel a lump forming in my throat just thinking about it!

An end once and for all? Yup it was very moving.

[congokong]

Shooting Mordin never bothered me. Neither did Thessia. Mordin brought it on himself for his 180 on the genophage. He was threatening the galaxy to clear his conscience; even making you lose vital salarian aid in the process.

 

The extended cut ending made me teary. It was so sad knowing that Shepard and Liara would likely never see each other again and that my Shepard's story was over. Even though it wasn't pleasant, I liked being forced to choose between the catalyst's 3 lesser evils (or 4 if you just shoot it). It shows that sometimes there are no true happy endings. Considering the scale of the reaper threat Shepard made out pretty well for herself.

[q5tyhj]

ME3 made me feel like I had been punched in the gun, ran into by a semi, ran over by a semi, and then kicked repeatedly.

 

Or, to quote The Office-

 

"It feels like somebody took my heart and dropped it into a bucket of boiling tears. And, at the same time, somebody else is hitting my soul in the crotch with a frozen sledgehammer. And then a third guy walks in and starts punching me in the grief bone. And I am crying, and nobody can hear me because I am terribly, terribly alone"

 

 

[shodiswe]

I've never liked bossfights that much. They tend to break immersion by having someone that's far more powerful with weird abilities unavailable to the best of the best of the galaxys operatives, military and lawenforcement.
They also seem to warry a lot depending on the intentions of the writers.

Now, if it's explained by utilising a fortified position and additional troops and resources aswell as the terrain and havign prepared well. Then it makes more sense.

If you come up against someone with an army, mines and remote triggered explosives strategicaly placed and possibly hidden then it makes sense that they are puttign up a good amount of resistance. Perhaps a few shield generators/pylons and turrets aswell. I never was a fan of that part where Kai Leng recharge where he stood in the open and recharged his shields. That was also gone from the fight on the Cerberus station... Wasn't it?

[ForceXev]

There are indeed many great moments in the game, it's sad that the ending overshadowed the rest of the game so much that people seemed to forget about those moments.  I felt some emotion on Thessia, too.  It's not about Thessia itself, but the hopelessness of the whole situation and the way the scene is played out with the music and the sounds of the asari screaming over the comm.

 

But I actually feel like I missed out on some great drama because I simply cannot bring myself to do a playthrough where I shoot Mordin or let Tali kill herself.  Those scenes are powerful, but I... just... can't... do it.

 

I can let Miranda die, though.   Tali's "drunk scene" makes more sense if Miranda has kicked the bucket.

[TheTurtle]

I only ever shed one tear playing this game. It was when Jacob cheats on Shepard and knocks up Brynn Cole add that in with his deadbeat dad and you have one of the most pathetic black stereotypes I have ever seen.

[congokong]

I can let Miranda die, though.   Tali's "drunk scene" makes more sense if Miranda has kicked the bucket.

 

Miranda dying is very fitting. As you said, the Tali scene makes more sense. Also, Miranda's recklessness in storming Sanctuary alone with no backup should cost her. It shows that despite being so close to "perfect" she was still mortal and made mistakes. I also like how Joker gets all sad and recites everyone who has already died in ME3. I think the developers wanted her to die anyway. There are so many ways for her not to make it through ME3 that you either have to be very lucky or use meta-gaming. Simply breaking up with her gets her killed.

 

There are a few scenes in the game that seem to insinuate taking a certain path. Miranda dying is one with the drunk Tali scene but also Shepard's nightmare after the genophage arc. It felt like she's having bad dreams because of being tormented; specifically sabotaging the genophage cure with Mordin possibly being shot to do it. But if you cure the genophage with Wrex, Eve, and the rest of the krogan rejoicing having such a bad dream feels off to me. Yes, Mordin dies but he does it willingly with a smile.

[Han Shot First]

I prefer Miranda dead.

 

It provides a more emotional conclusion to Cronos, and I also quite like the scene with Tali drunkenly mourning her.

[ImaginaryMatter]

I prefer Miranda dead.

 

It provides a more emotional conclusion to Cronos, and I also quite like the scene with Tali drunkenly mourning her.

 

Hmm, interesting. This could be because I hate Kai Leng as much as I can hate anything in a video game but I didn't find anything particularly conclusive about Cronos station. I think I might have if Miranda came if she was still alive, the final scene on board the station was practically shouting for her to be there.

[Faerlyte]

Legion dying was painful the first time I played it. I was not happy about that. 

 

The game has since lost its emotional impact on me however due the shortcomings of the plot. 

[themikefest]

I have had Miranda die in ME2 and ME3 because I was doing specific playthroughs and to see the different outcomes.

[TheTurtle]

Seriously though saddest moment is when Jason Prangley dies at Grissom if Jack is dead. The speech givew Shepard and the students reaction to said speech is heart breaking

[q5tyhj]

Seriously though saddest moment is when Jason Prangley dies at Grissom if Jack is dead. The speech givew Shepard and the students reaction to said speech is heart breaking

 

I prefer the Gamer Poop version of that conversation (https://www.youtube....peRk1YFn8s#t=65)

[von uber]

Miranda dying is very fitting..... Yes, Mordin dies but he does it willingly with a smile.

 

I can see what you mean. But wouldn't that be a non-import play through?

[congokong]

I can see what you mean. But wouldn't that be a non-import play through?

Huh?

[AlanC9]

It's easy enough to get Miranda killed if you want to, save or no.

[von uber]

Huh?

 

As in to get those options, doesn't that occur for a non import? I've never tried, so do you lose Miranda if you do a non-import game? Does she even show up?

What I'm wondering is, if the game actually plays out better as a non-import a syou can;t then maximise everything (Quarian/Geth peace, Cure the Genophage with Wrex and Eve etc).

[Mcfly616]

Don't give her the Alliance Clearance.....


She'll die. (import or not)

[Mordokai]

As in to get those options, doesn't that occur for a non import? I've never tried, so do you lose Miranda if you do a non-import game? Does she even show up?

What I'm wondering is, if the game actually plays out better as a non-import a syou can;t then maximise everything (Quarian/Geth peace, Cure the Genophage with Wrex and Eve etc).

 

I tried doing non-import game and found out I almost never had enough paragon/renegade points to achieve any of the choices that would result in "good" choice. I had to shoot Mordin, I could never convince TIM of his folly(you know, as much as possible anyway), I couldn't save VS, couldn't convince Henry Lawson to let Oriana go... seriously, I think there wasn't a single time where I could change anything in a meaningful way. It was as close to failure playthrough as I ever got.

 

Now, I'm allowing for a chance that I seriously screwed something up. But I just can't figure out what that would be... perhaps somebody with more experience than me can shed some light on it?

[themikefest]

As in to get those options, doesn't that occur for a non import? I've never tried, so do you lose Miranda if you do a non-import game? Does she even show up?

What I'm wondering is, if the game actually plays out better as a non-import a syou can;t then maximise everything (Quarian/Geth peace, Cure the Genophage with Wrex and Eve etc).

If you do a default ME3 playthrough, MIranda will die no matter what, you will not get peace with Geth and the Quarians and Tali will not be an Admiral, Wrex will not be in the game being replaced by Wreav and Eve will die no matter what. You can sabotage the genophage and keep Mordin alive.

 

As I said in earlier post, Miranda can die on Horizon even if she is loyal, warned about Kai Leng and given clearance.

[von uber]

So me3 default is a fairly different game in quite a few ways to what you can get.

[TheTurtle]

Defualt ME3 is terrible. It makes you wonder why it was advertised as the place to start

[themikefest]

So me3 default is a fairly different game in quite a few ways to what you can get.

It is. The only ME2 characters that are in the game is Miranda, Jacob and Mordin. And  I'm sure you already know, Garrus and Tali are squadmates.