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AIU - the ultimate shotgun platform?


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#101
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When the AIU has a friendly neighborhood Turian following her around spamming Chain Overload at all of her Snap Freezes, how does that factor in?

 

I had a game a few hours ago with a good AIU.  I hopped on my TGI.  We were the stealth Cryo Asplosion Death Squad.  I don't even know who the other two pugs were, one had an Avenger and the other had no equipment whatsoever.  They scored like 30k each by the end of the game.  But it was the smoothest game I had all night.  Stuff just melted in our path.  I don't even remember what the enemy faction was, because nothing lived long enough to get a good look at it.

 

GI is selfish.



#102
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Split fitness and scrubmatrix, max the rest. Doesn't matter if bonus works with SF or not. Despite the fact that I hadn't tried her (boring even on paper), I don't think that there can be a problem in speccing such a kit.


And what would you use snap freeze for if you cannot break cloak with it amd thus hide its cd without losing out on the shotgun bonus? They way I see it (assuming now that I remember correctly) TC 6b and SF would be more or less mutually exclusive.

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the bonus should work like that of any other infiltrator



#104
LuckyStarr

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Despite the fact that I hadn't tried her (boring even on paper)

What a fine expert we have here. And I thought I'm the most ignorant participant of this discussion :)



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Mmm. Peddro pls. Halp?

The shotgun bonus doesn't work off host all the time. There is a reference to the aiu being tested in peddro's compiledexhincs thread. Hope that helps. I would link but i'm mobile right now.

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NuclearTech76

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Stupid ass phone. Mechanics. For fuxk's sake autocorrect please.
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#107
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And what would you use snap freeze for if you cannot break cloak with it amd thus hide its cd without losing out on the shotgun bonus? They way I see it (assuming now that I remember correctly) TC 6b and SF would be more or less mutually exclusive.

I don't take SF on AIU, out of the same reasoning. Even if bonus damage lasts 2.5 sec after breaking cloak... Dunno, you're hard pressed to cast SF and empty your clip in that time. More likely, your time runs out when you're still shooting.



#108
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the bonus should work like that of any other infiltrator

 

It actually doesn't as far as the Shotgun bonus is concerned.

 

For normal Tactical Cloak, when you cloak it adds the Sniper Rifle damage bonus and when you decloak it puts the SR damage bonus on a 1.5 second timer before removing it so that it mimics the regular boost from cloak.

 

For the AIU, instead when you cloak it just adds the Shotgun damage bonus on a 2 second timer right away rather than waiting for you to decloak.

 

It actually functions more like the Turian Ghost's cloak, but since the Assault Rifle damage bonus has a 10 second duration we don't run into any issues with it.


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Are you sure? So when I spend more than 2 seconds cloaked before shooting, I don't get my 25% bonus? I did not notice.



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It's Cyonan. He's sure.
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#111
Cyonan

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Are you sure? So when I spend more than 2 seconds cloaked before shooting, I don't get my 25% bonus? I did not notice.

 

I'm just looking at the code, but that's how it's set up.

 

It's possible that it doesn't recalculate the shotgun damage until after firing at least once. That would help to explain why off-host you can get 1 shot in before the bonus goes away sometimes. The way they add the rank 6 Tactical Cloak damage bonus isn't the standard method they use for most other damage bonuses.



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huh, wierd. More often than not I skip snap freeze anyway. Even more often than not I don't feel like clicking on this character on the selection screen



#113
KalilKareem

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AHA! There was something! My mind wasnt just playing tricks on me (for once).

#114
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Another case of drell superiority.

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Another case of drell superiority.

#116
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What a fine expert we have here. And I thought I'm the most ignorant participant of this discussion :)

Whats wrong with ignoring the broken and boring kit? I tend not to use winfiltrators a lot due to the boredom factor, with GI being the exception for weapon superiority.

To be honest, I tend to divide kits into two categories: weapon specialists (GI, TSol) and PPR handlers (TSent and valk). Destroyer and GT fit both groups. AIU doesn't fit any of two. Yeah, I am so narrow minded.

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NuclearTech76

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Aiu belongs with all the other synthetic scum in a trash compactor.
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#118
KalilKareem

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Why this vitriol against the AIU? Shes not my favourite kit either, but I dont actovely dislike her either. Is it just that she is forgoiving for beginners?

#119
Kislitsin

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Aiu belongs with all the other synthetic scum in a trash compactor.

My shotgun and lazor robos would like to have a word w you

#120
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Why this vitriol against the AIU? Shes not my favourite kit either, but I dont actovely dislike her either. Is it just that she is forgoiving for beginners?

 

BSN has a habit of not liking anything they view as being "too easy" or "too powerful" and a lot of people view the AIU as being both.

 

Except for the GI, apparently.



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Why this vitriol against the AIU? Shes not my favourite kit either, but I dont actovely dislike her either. Is it just that she is forgoiving for beginners?

Boredom and lolnoobetube factors.
All she has for her:
1. Lolcloak with a bland damage bonus, nothing interesting
2. Broken no walls no brainiac power with annoying lod splosions if detonated
3. Lolidontwanttodie grennades instead of something that deals damage (like HVI has)

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Why this vitriol against the AIU? Shes not my favourite kit either, but I dont actovely dislike her either. Is it just that she is forgoiving for beginners?

 

She was the icing on the cake for idea that BioWare made Infiltrators too easy and powerful when compared to other classes. 



#123
LuckyStarr

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Almost completed solo bronze with the suggested Claymore GI fit. Almost... Nothing as annoying as dying to Banshee with a kit that could see her coming even through walls! Greed killed me, thought I can get that ammo refill quickly. Claymore doesn't have huge supply of spare clips.



#124
KalilKareem

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Well, before the RM nerf I would have agreed, but today I dont feel she is in any particular noob-league. I mean, how hard is acolyte GT to play for instance?

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Almost completed solo bronze with the suggested Claymore GI fit. Almost... Nothing as annoying as dying to Banshee with a kit that could see her coming even through walls! Greed killed me, thought I can get that ammo refill quickly. Claymore doesn't have huge supply of spare clips.

 

Try losing a Platinum solo from walking over a Swarmer with full shield and 1 bar of health.  :lol:

 

 

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