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[Pheabus2009]

I've been very frustrated recently when try to join a friend playing ME3 via Origin, we both were online (he was on Skype talking to me so I knew that), but the Origin friend list just took forever to load, he tried to invite me in game, but I couldn't see it either, so I had no way to join him (some may suggest that he can join me but my network is bad, so that is really not the solution).

As long as I know, using Origin is the only way to join a friend currently on PC. In some other EA games such as Battlefield3/4, I can use Battlelog comm center to join a friend, but that's not the case with ME3.

I seriously think EA should implement a web-based Origin interface in which we can join a friend via a simple "join" link on our browser, in case the Origin friend list doesn't work (which happens to be quite often in my case) then we still have a way to play together, just like what Steam does. Everyone knows Origin itself is a (relatively) buggy software, but when it doesn't work, at least let's have some alternatives.

So...what do you guys think？ Should a web-based origin interface be necessary?

[Balbock]

There is already an alternative that sometimes work (if Origin let you conect to any lobbies):

 

Create a public platinum lobby and choose a insane (and therefore rare) map and enemy combination (for example Condor/Collector) and the other search for exatly that combo. Most PUGs will instandly leave such lobbies and there is a good chance that all get into the same lobby after a few searches.

 

 

Or restart everything (Origin, PC, Router etc) and hope for the best...

[Mako]

I think that a web-based interface would also be buggy as heck. A solution is what I and probably many others call "lobby roulette". Start jumping in other people's lobbies and when you find one more empty spot, your friend can try to join you. It has worked for me and two people already.

 

Balbock, that suggestion doesn't work. It's a bit more complicated than that, so complicated that I can't explain it. I mean the one with the strange lobby settings.

 

The other solution that won't have you doing backflips is to add more people to your friendlist and test your connection with all of them. Eventually you'll find someone that will be able to get both you and your friend in a lobby and the three of you will be able to merrily kill things.

 

So no, a web-based interface would require more resources and more maintenance and I'd say that other things should take priority.

 

EDIT: Last but not least, if nothing made sense, it's because I haven't drank coffee yet.

[Balbock]

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Balbock, that suggestion doesn't work. It's a bit more complicated than that, so complicated that I can't explain it. I mean the one with the strange lobby settings.

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It worked for me. Well not everytime but sometimes. But if it did not work I could not connect to any Lobby and nobody joined into lobbies that I created myself.

 

Your solution only works if you have a working Origin FL or if one has a working FL and can see the other one online/ingame. The strange lobby settings sometimes work without working FLs.

 

Anyway, all this "solutions" are more try and hope. Sometimes it work sometimes not.

[Alfonsedode]

Joining bug isa very frustrating bug of origin. I can t even begin to understand why a www interface would not be able to make 2 users interact...

[Serrin2]

Sometimes it works to play a match and then FL is back...sometimes....

[Mako]

It worked for me. Well not everytime but sometimes. But if it did not work I could not connect to any Lobby and nobody joined into lobbies that I created myself.

 

Your solution only works if you have a working Origin FL or if one has a working FL and can see the other one online/ingame. The strange lobby settings sometimes work without working FLs.

 

Anyway, all this "solutions" are more try and hope. Sometimes it work sometimes not.

We could involve strange incantations and see where that take us. Would make more sense than trying to make sense out of Origin. And yes, pretty much, the FL is helpful. I am working on it, believe me. I've been working on it for a while now.

[TheShadyEngineer]

TL;DR: Yeah, a web based origin is a good idea IF they do it similarly to how Battlefield made Battlelog.

 

I agree with the OP 100 percent. Glad you mentioned Battlefield 3 (BF3) and Battlelog (BL). When BF3 announced that it'd run on BL instead of an in game lobbie list, I was in resistance camp. I thought that it'd be buggy, laggy because many people would be on, would draw resources away from the game and would just be another stupid "thing" to do before getting to your desired game. It took me about a week to do a complete 180 on that issue. 

 

BL became a combination of N7HQ, friends list, lobby list and a host of in-game voice chat for squads which isn't the best out there but gets the job done most of the time. Instead of randomly browsing lobbies like in previous BF titles, BL would show you how many people were playing in the particular server, the map, what was the ping of each player, what was the score b/w the two teams (important for competitive games because joining a team that's getting steamrolled is very rage inducing) and all the features that particular server offered( friendly fire, 3D spotting etc..). You could go back to look at previous matches and get full a report on how well you did- what was your accuracy, best weapon, score per minute, worst enemy etc.. There were some lag issues with BL in the beginning but it was fixed after two weeks or so.

 

And of course the best feature of BL is that it is independent from origin. When origin decides to crap out and not show the friends list or not go online, no problem, go on BL and use their friends list instead or start the game from BL without giving two flying ducks about the status of origin.

 

It'd be really cool if BioWare implemented something similar to BL for ME4. How convenient would it be to browse lobbies instead of having random matchmaking? To know that in some particular lobby the host is from Australia or know to avoid Gold lobbies where all the players are unqualified to even play silver. And after you're finished with the match you could go back and look at stats such as how many times you were killed, what was your accuracy, biotic/tech explosions detonated/primed etc.

[Dunvi]

A web browser is not a bad idea, but your reasoning is sorta off. For one thing, if you're having trouble retrieving the friend data on your Origin friends list, it's just as likely you'll have problems retrieve that same data on the browser. That's all Origin is, anyway.

 

Also, there's a common problem with the "Make new software to replace buggy software" approach. The new software is just as likely to be buggy. Might as well put those resources elsewhere.

[Tonymac]

The issue is not if its web based or not.

 

The problem is Origin.

[bauzabauza]

The issue is not if its web based or not.

 

The problem is Origin.

 

loko, as true as it is

[BridgeBurner]

I've been very frustrated recently when try to join a friend playing ME3 via Origin, we both were online (he was on Skype talking to me so I knew that), but the Origin friend list just took forever to load, he tried to invite me in game, but I couldn't see it either, so I had no way to join him (some may suggest that he can join me but my network is bad, so that is really not the solution).

As long as I know, using Origin is the only way to join a friend currently on PC. In some other EA games such as Battlefield3/4, I can use Battlelog comm center to join a friend, but that's not the case with ME3.

I seriously think EA should implement a web-based Origin interface in which we can join a friend via a simple "join" link on our browser, in case the Origin friend list doesn't work (which happens to be quite often in my case) then we still have a way to play together, just like what Steam does. Everyone knows Origin itself is a (relatively) buggy software, but when it doesn't work, at least let's have some alternatives.

So...what do you guys think？ Should a web-based origin interface be necessary?

 

No, because if EA implement a "web portal" for ME4, it will be required 100% of the time. Battlelog is fail. There is no legitimate reason - I repeat - there is NO legitimate reason why server browsers cannot be included in game. Other than laziness and pandering to console players; which is hardly a concern for the battlefield series which unlike mass effect is really strong on PC.

 

I have a game and a mouse, why do I also need some web browser plug in junk to choose what server to play on? Can't you just include a list of servers in the game that I paid £XX for, like PC online games have done for more than a decade? You can, only you didn't Dice / Bioware / EA, because laziness.

[TheShadyEngineer]

No, because if EA implement a "web portal" for ME4, it will be required 100% of the time. Battlelog is fail. There is no legitimate reason - I repeat - there is NO legitimate reason why server browsers cannot be included in game. Other than laziness and pandering to console players; which is hardly a concern for the battlefield series which unlike mass effect is really strong on PC.

 

I have a game and a mouse, why do I also need some web browser plug in junk to choose what server to play on? Can't you just include a list of servers in the game that I paid £XX for, like PC online games have done for more than a decade? You can, only you didn't Dice / Bioware / EA, because laziness.

Why, because you said so?

[Dunvi]

No, because if EA implement a "web portal" for ME4, it will be required 100% of the time. Battlelog is fail. There is no legitimate reason - I repeat - there is NO legitimate reason why server browsers cannot be included in game. Other than laziness and pandering to console players; which is hardly a concern for the battlefield series which unlike mass effect is really strong on PC.

 

I have a game and a mouse, why do I also need some web browser plug in junk to choose what server to play on? Can't you just include a list of servers in the game that I paid £XX for, like PC online games have done for more than a decade? You can, only you didn't Dice / Bioware / EA, because laziness.

I wouldn't call it laziness. It is no less difficult to program a good browser-based portal than an in game one, and I can think of benefits to an online one - among others, it is much easier to patch and update. I actually think the battlelog is pretty strong - the only major complaint I have with it is this idea that you should have to completely exit the game and relaunch to change servers.

[BridgeBurner]

Why, because you said so?

 

Because its unnecessary fluff, and no substitute for a standard server browser.

[BridgeBurner]

I wouldn't call it laziness. It is no less difficult to program a good browser-based portal than an in game one, and I can think of benefits to an online one - among others, it is much easier to patch and update. I actually think the battlelog is pretty strong - the only major complaint I have with it is this idea that you should have to completely exit the game and relaunch to change servers.

 

A server browser would kinda fix that.

[Dunvi]

A server browser would kinda fix that.

And would suffer other weaknesses in return.

[capn233]

I have tried the whole "create Condor/Collector/Platinum" one time to try and allow a friend to join, but it filled up with randoms too fast.  Guess it was the wrong combination to use.

[TheShadyEngineer]

 

Because its unnecessary fluff, and no substitute for a standard server browser.

 

If Battlefield 3 had an in game server browser instead of BL, it would be dependant on origin to launch the game. I think it's clear to everyone that it would make the game much worse. EA forces consumers to use their crappy origin and DICE found a way around it. The way I see it, BL is the lesser of two evils in terms of browsing servers. Also I've never seen in game stat lists and battle reports as detailed as they are in BL.

 

And no offence, but your original comment can be summed up as "I don't like change". I agree that BL isn't perfect and can be improved (Like Dunvi said, closing the game to launch another server is a bit annoying) but it is far from being a fail. 

[chcknwng]

I had problems with Titanfall. I couldn't invite any friends, or I could see the join lobby. To get the invite/join to work, I have to start ME3 while I am still in Titanfall, shift F1 to bring out the overlay, THEN I could invite/join friends.

 

And according to some you have to have Origin overlay working to be able to join/invite....And I know plenty people disabled origin overlay in favor of Steam. It is just an awkward piece of software that nobody really wants. 

[millahnna]

I wouldn't trust it because EA