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[Master Warder Z_]

Unlikely. That would lead to faction redundancy, with two sides just being slightly different interpretations of "Orlais" as opposed to "Orlais vs. elves." And if we do it this way, Gaspard's mooks can be a menace for all while easy drama can be created with Vivienne supporting Celene and Sera supporting Briala, perhaps creating an actual crisis point.

 

Unlikely in regards that you don't think Bioware would ham fist her into being antagonist (I can actually see that as fairly probable) or Unlikely in the regard that you don't think that Celene would be just as at risk to being forced to be an antagonist if one possible Orlesian Monarch would be forced into the role, I see no reason why she would be immune to that.

 

Given that its quite possible that in her bid for allies she crosses lines, aligns with hostile factions to the Inquisition, etc.

 

Blah Blah, Third party indirect enemy in that instance, or maybe she just doesn't care for Mercenary Armies roaming her lands and taking away defensible structures and resources from Orlais. Can hardly fault her for that, Mercenary armies tend not to be popular the second they outlive their usefulness.

 

I can construe several scenario's where Bioware could come up with plausible reasoning that Celene would be a default antagonist, but that said i don't think they would do that. I figure it will be PC choice to decide whom to work with or no.

[LobselVith8]

Now that i'm rethinking it, is there a possibilty that Celene's and Gaspard's armies get annihilated at ground zero of the veil tears or are there hints the initial tear happens at another location?

 

We really don't know much about the suspected peace meeting, aside from what's been revealed in the leaked survey a while back. It's likely to have changed since then for the actual game. All we really know is that the protagonist is the sole survivor of this event, and that cataclysm leads to the main character becoming the Inquisitor.

[AresKeith]

Is it confirmed that we can side with Gaspard, by the way?

Why wouldn't we? It's pretty much like Bhelen/Harrowmont

[Master Warder Z_]

Why wouldn't we? It's pretty much like Bhelen/Harrowmont

 

Basically, But i do think this would be a bit more inclusive then that given that it is likely the Inquisitor will be doing more for those factions then mere fetch quests and, killing random mooks.

 

I hope Gaspard can grant the PC titles and landholdings in game.

 

I want to be a Baron @___@

[The Hierophant]

We really don't know much about the suspected peace meeting, aside from what's been revealed in the leaked survey a while back. It's likely to have changed since then for the actual game. All we really know is that the protagonist is the sole survivor of this event, and that cataclysm leads to the main character becoming the Inquisitor.

Thanks for the heads up.

[The Baconer]

Basically, But i do think this would be a bit more inclusive then that given that it is likely the Inquisitor will be doing more for those factions then mere fetch quests and, killing random mooks.

 

I hope Gaspard can grant the PC titles and landholdings in game.

 

I want to be a Baron @___@

 

Orlais won't have any more barons when I'm done.

 

 

Seriously though, I hope they'll give us opportunities to... "abuse" our position. The complete and utter misanthropy that will be my canon Inquisitor will require it.

[LobselVith8]

Unlikely. That would lead to faction redundancy, with two sides just being slightly different interpretations of "Orlais" as opposed to "Orlais vs. elves." And if we do it this way, Gaspard's mooks can be a menace for all while easy drama can be created with Vivienne supporting Celene and Sera supporting Briala, perhaps creating an actual crisis point.

 

I'm not sure that would be the case. Celene and Gaspard both have their flaws, but I didn't see Celene as the uncontested "good guy" of the two. Gaspard adheres quite strongly to the chevalier's code, despite his involvement in the Great Game. There is Celene's contrasting reaction to the deaths of the elves she caused with the human village that was sacked in the conflict was interesting, given how she seemed more upset with the loss of human life than with the demise of the elves. Celene's justification about her actions in executing the members of the elven rebellion, and her comparison to ending the elven uprising with crushing a venomous merchant's guild was troublesome.

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't think either one of them are villains, but Celene has plenty of their own drawbacks. I think the only one who is genuinely on the side of the elves is Briala, which is why I can see her as an option in the conflict aimed at helping the Elvhen.

[AresKeith]

Basically, But i do think this would be a bit more inclusive then that given that it is likely the Inquisitor will be doing more for those factions then mere fetch quests and, killing random mooks.

I hope Gaspard can grant the PC titles and landholdings in game.

I want to be a Baron @___@

Celene would probably do the same thing

Maybe they'll give use the Chevalier spec lol

[LobselVith8]

Thanks for the heads up.

 

As the Antivans would say: De nada.

[Master Warder Z_]

Celene would probably do the same thing

Maybe they'll give use the Chevalier spec lol

 

Well Yeah, but i want Gaspard to do it before he actually takes the Throne, you know, Give the PC REAL motivation to actually get his butt on the seat.

 

._. When you actually tie up resources, and promise things to get results from folks.

 

It tends to work better, then generic "I'll support you with blah blah, if you do blah blah."
 

I want him to appeal to the Inquisitors greed, Need for support or whatever.

 

Basically i want more then the whole trope "I'm going to help you if you help because...reasons."

[Master Warder Z_]

As the Antivans would say: De nada.

 

._.

 

No they wouldn't.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Just let me kill both Celene and Gaspard Celene will be NCR and Gaspard will be Legion for my independent Inquisitor

[Master Warder Z_]

Just let me kill both Celene and Gaspard Celene will be NCR and Gaspard will be Legion for my independent Inquisitor

 

You aren't taking over Orlais.

 

I can basically assure you of that, For one.

 

You have an independent Mercenary Army that wouldn't be capable of crushing either of them on the field if they bothered to actually stop bickering, Secondly you are a non noble of Orlais, them being ruled a low born or a foreigner?

 

You would have a coup against you the moment the nobility could rally behind some one and get the coin to field a force.

[TheKomandorShepard]

You aren't taking over Orlais.

 

I can basically assure you of that, For one.

 

You have an independent Mercenary Army that wouldn't be capable of crushing either of them on the field if they bothered to actually stop bickering, Secondly you are a non noble of Orlais, them being ruled a low born or a foreigner?

 

You would have a coup against you the moment the nobility could rally behind some one and get the coin to field a force.

 

Might makes right and devs said that i can either use diplomacy or force on my enemies... Besides they aren't immortal i can take both on my chest without kiling orlais entire army...

[Master Warder Z_]

Might makes right and devs said that i can either use diplomacy or force on my enemies... Besides they aren't immortal i can take both on my chest without kiling orlais entire army...

 

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TKS, this is even more outrageous then you're usual suggestions.

 

I am telling you here and now, It will never happen friend.

[TheKomandorShepard]

._.

 

TKS, this is even more outrageous then you're usual suggestions.

 

I am telling you here and now, It will never happen friend.

 

It happend in many rpg games so well...

as i said i no have desire choose side that i don't support...

[Master Warder Z_]

It happend in many rpg games so well...

as i said i no have desire choose side that i don't support...

Seems like you need to get over it, and pick one. I can pretty much assure you seizing power for yourself will not be possible.

 

Nor even logistically possible if you look at it from a military standpoint, Mercenary army or no the Inquisition isn't going to be in a strong enough position to field a force capable of securing the Orlesian proper, and with out a military Orlais ceases to be an Empire, You would be king of a bunch of warring city states, like back in the time of Drakon.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Seems like you need to get over it, and pick one. I can pretty much assure you seizing power for yourself will not be possible.

 

Nor even logistically possible if you look at it from a military standpoint, Mercenary army or no the Inquisition isn't going to be in a strong enough position to field a force capable of securing the Orlesian proper, and with out a military Orlais ceases to be an Empire, You would be king of a bunch of warring city states, like back in the time of Drakon.

 

Yes corrupted and divided nation without leaders... certainly they are drived by loyalty to nobles...

Yes we will fight with army of demons but country is too powerful...

Not to mention that we will be able get support of others not only inq...

[Hellion Rex]

Dragon Age ‏@dragonage 4m

From sprawling hills to craggy terrain, the Exalted Plains within the Dales are ripe for exploration. http://bit.ly/1jyATxE  #DAI

 

 

Exploring the Dales’ Exalted Plains

Within the Dales, the Exalted Plains is a massive stretch of land ravaged by civil war and ripe for exploration in Dragon Age: Inquisition. As each distinct areas of the Exalted Plains has its own complex ecosystem, creating the Plains’ physical space in the game was no easy task.

“The first thing we [did] was try to portray the civil war and the impact it’s having on the environment and the people of that region,” says senior environment artist Andrew Farrell. “In these spaces, we try to provide opportunities for the Inquisition to come in and make its mark on the area. Then the people there rally around that.”

The Inquisition arrives at the Exalted Plains during a ceasefire between two armies at war. The bodies of fallen soldiers mysteriously rose from the dead and have driven the armies back to their respective castles in retreat.

As this is the Dales, one might wonder: what’s become of the Dalish elves?

“They’ve retreated into an area with more security away from all the fighting,” explains Farrell. “Of course, they’ve got a few problems of their own.”

The Crow Fens is one section of the Exalted Plains. In contrast to the sprawling hills elsewhere in the area, the Fens is claustrophobic, creating tension as you wonder what lies in wait for you around the next corner.  According to Farrell, the Fens was the perfect playground for his imagination to run wild.

Using the power of the Frostbite 3 game engine and next-generation technology, utilizing water in levels is one of the achievements the team is most proud of.

“Interactive water is one of the key things we’ve added to next-gen,” says lead environment artist Ben McGrath. “It’s got realistic reflections, and also realistically ripples and splashes as you walk through it.”

This is all made possible by a technology advancement known as “displacement mapping”. McGrath describes the benefits it adds to the game:

“Displacement mapping adds a new level of realism to the environment. Normal maps [in previous-gen technology] brought great detail to surfaces, but displacement mapping actually pushes those details out so you can see them in the silhouette. The place where it’s probably the most noticeable is on terrain. Pebbles, sand ripples, cobblestones, and other details all pop out from the terrain and make it far more detailed than ever before.”

Once an area is built, its ecosystem brings it to life. While exploring the Exalted Plains, you’re likely to see the halla, birds, and wolves that have made it home. Make your way into the Crow Fens, and you’ll find yourself amidst drakes, dragonlings, and dragonkin.

Don’t let the looming threat of danger deter you from adventuring, however.

“Get off the beaten path!” says Farrell. “Just like exploring in real life, look under all the rocks, under all the bridges, and in all dark corners of the map. Take the path less-traveled and you might something interesting… or surprising.”

As expansive as the Exalted Plains is, Farrell and McGrath agree that you shouldn’t worry too much about missing anything, because you can return to it at any time.

“You won’t be locked out of an area,” Farrell says. “We’ve got a lot of space, so you definitely don’t need to try and see everything on your first playthrough.”

[Xilizhra]

I'm not sure that would be the case. Celene and Gaspard both have their flaws, but I didn't see Celene as the uncontested "good guy" of the two. Gaspard adheres quite strongly to the chevalier's code, despite his involvement in the Great Game. There is Celene's contrasting reaction to the deaths of the elves she caused with the human village that was sacked in the conflict was interesting, given how she seemed more upset with the loss of human life than with the demise of the elves. Celene's justification about her actions in executing the members of the elven rebellion, and her comparison to ending the elven uprising with crushing a venomous merchant's guild was troublesome.

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't think either one of them are villains, but Celene has plenty of their own drawbacks. I think the only one who is genuinely on the side of the elves is Briala, which is why I can see her as an option in the conflict aimed at helping the Elvhen.

I see both of them as villainous, but if we have to side with one of them, Celene is the only viable option to me.

[Master Warder Z_]

Yes corrupted and divided nation without leaders... certainly they are drived by loyalty to nobles...

Yes we will fight with army of demons but country is too powerful...

Not to mention that we will be able get support of others not only inq...

 

Corrupted and Divided, they have assembled the largest Empire since Tevinter, the Grand Game doesn't prevent expansion or them having a strong military.

 

._. Pretty much.

 

if you find any one besides Nevarra close enough to matter, i will be impressed.

 

Fereldan is to weak to keep it self together over much, little lone invade Orlais, So basically? I see this going this way if you actually attempted it in game.

 

You push to supplant both parties and take the throne for yourself, they quickly resolve their differences and assemble and march a host to combat you, The end of the Inquisition, they go back to fighting their war.

 

The demons keep pouring out of the veil, and life goes on.

 

Except your dead and a footnote in history.

[TK514]

Interesting.  Thanks, Cousin Kenobi..

[LobselVith8]

I see both of them as villainous, but if we have to side with one of them, Celene is the only viable option to me.

 

Fair enough.

[TK514]

Fair enough.

 

I have to admit, Gaspard scored points with me when he upheld his word over accepting the base actions of a valuable ally, and when he proved that what a person does is more important to him than who birthed them.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Corrupted and Divided, they have assembled the largest Empire since Tevinter, the Grand Game doesn't prevent expansion or them having a strong military.

 

._. Pretty much.

 

if you find any one besides Nevarra close enough to matter, i will be impressed.

 

Fereldan is to weak to keep it self together over much, little lone invade Orlais, So basically? I see this going this way if you actually attempted it in game.

 

You push to supplant both parties and take the throne for yourself, they quickly resolve their differences and assemble and march a host to combat you, The end of the Inquisition, they go back to fighting their war.

 

The demons keep pouring out of the veil, and life goes on.

 

Except your dead and a footnote in history.

 

And what tevinter empire is? That they have large army when they have corrupted and divided leaders mean a little... Not mention that most after both celene and gaspard death would start killing each other for power...

 

So as i many times sides tevinter and orlais may be powerfull but corrupted and fragile from the bottom to the top...

 

And as i said we will have possibility to gain many allies and you can always recruit armies...

 

Not to mention that orlais have numerous rebellions not only from elves heh no wonder...