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The Exalted Plains - Orlesian Civil War in the Dales (Masked Empire Spoilers Within)


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#1951
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And...is that a bad thing?

Not really, every game should be a bit more like the Witcher 2.

It does denote a certain lack of originality but what's original these days?



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Just putting my 0.02¢ in, but it's been stated many times by devs that in order to unlock certain storylines we'll need to increase the inquisitions power, so maybe Orlais is last. It's not like the fledgling inquisition will have the power to change the outcome of a civil war in the arguably most powerful nation in thedas. Point being that Briala may have prolonged the war Allready by the time we arrive, and this may give the elves a greater chance to reach their (varied and sometimes irrational) goals. Or give us more justification to behead the knife eared moron who's prolonging a civil war during the damn apocalypse. Take your pick.

#1953
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All I know is the people who's characters' goals solely revolve around "liberating" the Elves or Mages are going to be sorely disappointed in the end.


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Do you mean that the Inquisition's army which will be mostly composed of non-magical humans will be against destroying non-magical kingdoms which probably happen to be their countries?

I'm shocked, I tell you.


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#1955
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Do you mean that the Inquisition's army which will be mostly composed of non-magical humans will be against destroying non-magical kingdoms which probably happen to be their countries?

I'm shocked, I tell you.

Not just that but the Inquisitor's job is closing the Veil and restoring order and stability to the realm.

 

So it's likely we'll be forced into difficult choices between two evils to accomplish this just like the Warden was. 



#1956
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I'm not sure that would be the case. Celene and Gaspard both have their flaws, but I didn't see Celene as the uncontested "good guy" of the two. Gaspard adheres quite strongly to the chevalier's code, despite his involvement in the Great Game. There is Celene's contrasting reaction to the deaths of the elves she caused with the human village that was sacked in the conflict was interesting, given how she seemed more upset with the loss of human life than with the demise of the elves. Celene's justification about her actions in executing the members of the elven rebellion, and her comparison to ending the elven uprising with crushing a venomous merchant's guild was troublesome.

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't think either one of them are villains, but Celene has plenty of their own drawbacks. I think the only one who is genuinely on the side of the elves is Briala, which is why I can see her as an option in the conflict aimed at helping the Elvhen.

I saw a pretty good definition of the conflict earlier.
-Gaspard is the sort you can trust with your life, but not necessarily the country
-Celene you can trust with the country, but not necessarily your life



#1957
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Not just that but the Inquisitor's job is closing the Veil and restoring order and stability to the realm.

 

So it's likely we'll be forced into difficult choices between two evils to accomplish this just like the Warden was. 

 

:D I would like the chance to aid a few factions, but i am not deluding myself into thinking i can fight the Mage Rebellion for the Templars.

 

That is their dragon to slay.


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#1958
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I have seen the ignorant on these forums claim that we should close the tears in the Veil.

This is nonsense! The tears in the Veil empower magic therefore, in order to empower mages, we need to make them BIGGER!


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I have seen the ignorant on these forums claim that we should close the tears in the Veil.

This is nonsense! The tears in the Veil empower magic therefore, in order to empower mages, we need to make them BIGGER!

Hey, I'm all down for ripping the Veil to shreds! Let our demon masters rule us all!


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#1960
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:D I would like the chance to aid a few factions, but i am not deluding myself into thinking i can fight the Mage Rebellion for the Templars.

 

That is their dragon to slay.

Exactly

 

I saw a pretty good definition of the conflict earlier.
-Gaspard is the sort you can trust with your life, but not necessarily the country
-Celene you can trust with the country, but not necessarily your life

So it's Alistair and Anora 2.0?



#1961
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Exactly

 

>_> Not saying i won't stack the deck in their favor as much as possible though...



#1962
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Hey, I'm all down for ripping the Veil to shreds! Let our demon masters rule us all!


That's why we keep our mages under Strict surveillance in Seheron and Par Vollen. Free them and they'll go straight worshipping demons :whistle:.

#1963
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That's why we keep our mages under Strict surveillance in Seheron and Par Vollen. Free them and they'll go straight worshipping demons :whistle:.

Stupid horned creature. You doubt the true way of the world!! The Veil prohibits expression of our Maker given powers from being taken to their fullest extent!


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#1964
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Stupid horned creature. You doubt the true way of the world!! The Veil prohibits expression of our Maker given powers from being taken to their fullest extent!


Your Maker is a lie :whistle: . As the cake :(.

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I call dibs on cutting out Adrian's tongue and sewing her mouth shut!



#1966
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Your Maker is a lie :evil:. As the cake :(.

 

Bioware disagrees :P



#1967
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I call dibs on cutting out Adrian's tongue and sewing her mouth shut!

Hell to the no. I am freezing the blood in her veins and setting her alight first!



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>_> Not saying i won't stack the deck in their favor as much as possible though...

I have no idea what you're talking about. :whistle:

 

:bandit: ...*hands City Elves dynamite,grenades and napalm bombs*

"Now remember to be a safe distance when you set these babies off." :ph34r:



#1969
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Bioware disagrees :P


On What :huh:?

I call dibs on cutting out Adrian's tongue and sewing her mouth shut!


Well, I think our mage friend elu would have a problem with this.
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On What :huh:?

 

The Maker being a lie :P



#1971
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The Maker being a lie :P

The Maker being a lie :P


I don't recall Bioware ever said anything about the Maker's existance (expecially in the way the Chantry describes it).

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Hell to the no. I am freezing the blood in her veins and setting her alight first!

I was thinking more of boiling her blood then making her set herself ablaze myself. :whistle:

 

*Blood Mage ftw! :devil: *



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I was thinking more of boiling her blood then making her set herself ablaze myself. :whistle:

 

*Blood Mage ftw! :devil: *

Too bad. You'll have to get in line. SHE IS MINE TO KILL.



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Too bad. You'll have to get in line. SHE IS MINE TO KILL.

Why don't we do both?

 

You get to go first.



#1975
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Why don't we do both?

 

You get to go first.

....Better. So I freeze, you boil, then we both drop an Inferno on her?