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[GVulture]

Umm...no. You guys are reaching.

 

Party members in previous games have done up to 20 sessions total. You cannot take that number and multiply it by x to get the number of lines for a given character, particularly when sessions vary in length (depending on the complexity of the lines being recorded), we do a lot of re-records, and actors often record for multiple characters.

 

I get the hope that's in this thread, and I feel ya, but I'd advise keeping a rein on your extrapolations--for your own peace of mind.

I think most people were going off your blog post about voice acting where you gave an example of an averaging 200-400 lines per 4 hour session. Can't blame them for that. =) Of course, there is no possible way of knowing if each session he got 200 new lines in.

 

I'm just happy for any confirmation at all. Letting myself have that and trying to temper my expectations just in case (because part of me doubts that he would've gotten clearance to announce his return if he WAS a companion).

[ElitePinecone]

See, that's why I can't see him being an NPC. His character has 1,000+ lines of dialogue. I mean, it's kind of like, why bother? He's practically already a companion. I'm trying to think of NPC's from the previous two games and I can't think of any that have *that* many lines, not even Bodahn who is with you from the start of DAO and comes to live with you in Act 2 of DA2. 

 

What's the sense in jumping to conclusions, though? What he's said is nowhere near confirmation, in my opinion.

 

If Cullen is a companion, everyone can freak out and be excited when that's 100% confirmed.

 

But if he's not, getting your hopes up too high now will only lead to disappointment later.

[Rinji the Bearded]

I think it's a taaaad too much to take the word of an actor who has little context about the lines he is speaking, anyway.  No offense to Titanic's Greg Ellis, of course.  I'm sure he's doing a great job.

 

Let's all just take a deep breath and chant our mantras, folks.

[Allan Schumacher]

So? We are adults. I've noticed that happens a lot in the BSN. Someone says, "oooh I hope..." and someone else steps in and says, "No no no do not hope at all for anything ever."

 

It's one thing to hope.  It's another to believe that a situation is clearly true.  If someone goes into a game convinced that X is going to be the case, and it's not there, and X is that thing that was so important to them, it can colour their entire experience in a negative way.  This disappointment can then be manifested in different ways, some of which involve sending me angry PMs about how I'm a liar and so forth.

 

I've seen it happen for DAO, and I have seen it happen for DA2, and those are just for the games that I've helped develop.  If you're one of the people that won't feel crushed if a character isn't what you were expecting it to be, then it's reasonable to conclude that the comments made about keeping realistic expectations probably don't need to apply to you.

[Divine Justinia V]

It's one thing to hope.  It's another to believe that a situation is clearly true.  If someone goes into a game convinced that X is going to be the case, and it's not there, and X is that thing that was so important to them, it can colour their entire experience in a negative way.  This disappointment can then be manifested in different ways, some of which involve sending me angry PMs about how I'm a liar and so forth.

 

I've seen it happen for DAO, and I have seen it happen for DA2, and those are just for the games that I've helped develop.  If you're one of the people that won't feel crushed if a character isn't what you were expecting it to be, then it's reasonable to conclude that the comments made about keeping realistic expectations probably don't need to apply to you.

 

This happens so much and honestly it can get quite annoying. I'm glad you guys are here to bring a dose of reality every now and then.

[Phate Phoenix]

This happens so much and honestly it can get quite annoying. I'm glad you guys are here to bring a dose of reality every now and then.

 

Agreed. Even though I tell myself not to get my expectations too high, sometimes I need... outside help with that.  Clarification can never be a bad thing!

[Rinji the Bearded]

After the DA2 Romance Announcement Incident on the BSN, I've learned to keep all my expectations at a bare minimum and try to reign my excitement in just a little, 'less I start misinterpreting everything.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

After the DA2 Valentine's Day Incident on the BSN, I've learned to keep all my expectations at a bare minimum and try to reign my excitement in just a little, 'less I start misinterpreting everything.

What was the DA2 Valentine's Day incident? ._.

[daveliam]

Why do people call him "Titanic's Greg Ellis"?  I get that he was in Titanic, but since his role was small, is it done in a mocking way?  I don't know the context.

[Rinji the Bearded]

What was the DA2 Valentine's Day incident? ._.

 

I think I am incorrect in remembering it as Valentine's Day, so don't quote me on that.  BUT--

 

Basically what started as speculation about romance options in DA2 got real ugly.  There was a lot of bitterness between certain fans of Character A and Character B for a while, and people started chomping at the bit and making some really wild observations and theories and etc.  Then BW announced the romances, and when Character B was revealed to NOT be a romance option... IT WAS A MADHOUSE for a little while. 

 

I mean I'd say the chaos was fairly contained, nothing too major in retrospect, but it was a great example of how expectations could totally ruin someone's experience.

[ClassicBox]

(New to this thread, I have a lot to catch up on.  )

 

I would love to see Cullen as a companion but for now I am not expecting anything. That way if he is indeed a follower I can be pleasantly surprised rather than disappointed. We still have some time before the game comes out, and everything that will be announced will be announced in good time. (I adore Greg Ellis but I don't think he understood what 'companionship' means to us. So taking a 'yes' as confirmation on something he didn't understand seems like it could lead to a big letdown...)

 

And, I'm trusting the writers. I would much rather a character I liked in previous games play a smaller part, such as an npc, and fit that role than be "forced" in to the position of a companion and result with a character that doesn't really work. Basically, I'll be happy to see him wherever they decided to put him. x3

 

 

[Sylvianus]

I suppose you are talking about Aveline not being an LI. Yep, people were devastated.  here, it's not exactly the same. People succeeded to contain their joy and their excitement before all this strong teasing... Don't really know what happened exactly.... 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think we should instead have realistic expectations of behavior. It's unfortunate that some people will PM you (and others) and get angry. But I guess we need to take into account the fact that these games are advertised to a huge demographic, spanning across the globe. Ergo, all different types (and ages) are playing/waiting/getting excited and angry. 

I just hope Cullen is a companion. Ellis made some tweets that might have mislead fans, or he was spot on and Cullen will be a romance and a companion. In truth, I don't understand why he was allowed to dispense said information if all it will do is cause a stir/confusion, resulting in the possibility of devs receiving angry PM's. But I assume you guys don't have any say when it comes to allowing voice actors to leak info?

My guess is that they didn't expect him to make that reply. I imagine what they cleared him to do was acknowledge that Cullen has a role in the game, like they acknowledged Alistair has a role in the game to some extent. They can't control everything an actor puts out on his twitter page.

[ElitePinecone]

So? We are adults. I've noticed that happens a lot in the BSN. Someone says, "oooh I hope..." and someone else steps in and says, "No no no do not hope at all for anything ever."

 

I understand giving that advice to a little kid. If Cullen isn't a companion, trust me, there are far worse disappointments that have happened (and will happen) in my life. lol

 

Apologies if I was being presumptuous - I'm just wary of people getting emotionally invested in the reality of something that might very well end up not being true. When some of Bioware's fans like a character they really, really like them, and I think it'd be unfortunate or frustrating if people were ultimately angry because something they assumed was correct is, in fact not.

 

(And many posts in this thread are treating "Cullen is a companion" as a foregone conclusion - that's not really true, and potentially misleading.)

[ClassicBox]

To support my previous post, I'm confused as to why someone who is not 100% clear on the game/dynamics of the game/jargon of the game was allowed to leak any info at all. It seems the devs are disinterested in gathering fan hate at the doorsteps of their social media accounts. (And god, who can blame them?) Why would they allow this actor to perpetuate the likelihood of such?

This I do not know. Perhaps he was given permission to acknowledge Cullen as an existing character? I don't think he was meant to announce anything significant such as romance/being a companion. And I don't think he did either. He said there were 'raunchy lines' and yes to 'companionship' but who knows what context that could be in game?  And given that that tweet was deleted, and the fact Bioware hasn't said much about it/hasn't been confirmed since then, is leading me to question things. But this is just me and my speculations!

 

Don't let me be a downer. I would be ecstatic if he is indeed a follower. And who knows, maybe he was given the A-OK to reveal such.  I think we shall be finding out sooner than later. Here's to hoping!

[Scroll]

Umm...no. You guys are reaching.

Party members in previous games have done up to 20 sessions total. You cannot take that number and multiply it by x to get the number of lines for a given character, particularly when sessions vary in length (depending on the complexity of the lines being recorded), we do a lot of re-records, and actors often record for multiple characters.

I get the hope that's in this thread, and I feel ya, but I'd advise keeping a rein on your extrapolations--for your own peace of mind.

It's one thing to hope. It's another to believe that a situation is clearly true. If someone goes into a game convinced that X is going to be the case, and it's not there, and X is that thing that was so important to them, it can colour their entire experience in a negative way. This disappointment can then be manifested in different ways, some of which involve sending me angry PMs about how I'm a liar and so forth.

I've seen it happen for DAO, and I have seen it happen for DA2, and those are just for the games that I've helped develop. If you're one of the people that won't feel crushed if a character isn't what you were expecting it to be, then it's reasonable to conclude that the comments made about keeping realistic expectations probably don't need to apply to you.

You came straight out and said Leliana and Morrigan were no companions. Maybe, you know, you can do the same now. (I get that stuff needs to go through official channels and all, but you two know people in high places. Poke them. )

[GVulture]

Ah. So it was deleted. It was there just a day or two ago. I'm assuming Cullen may not be a companion then, but ah well. Time will tell. I hope Bioware staff understand that the next time they allow voice actors to give information, they should brief them on the "hard hitting" questions that most fans will ask. Between "romance?" and "companion?" those are the two biggest. 

I think he realized that he didn't fully understand the question and recanted. Poor thing. He did leave his tweet up about raunchy stuff and sexy lines. FWIW.