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Greg Ellis Confirms Cullen As Romance and Companionship


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#126
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There wouldn't be any NPC romance seeing as Mr. Gaider stated that he didn't like it due to the fact that it wouldn't as fulfilling as a companion romance. 

Good! Not being able to bring my LI everywhere I go would be baaaad. :D



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Good! Not being able to bring my LI everywhere I go would be baaaad. :D

 

Of course! And we need to have the LIs in party fighting over us like we can't hear them. :D



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On an unrelated note, what did you not like about the DA 2 romances?  

 

On topic, I'm really hoping that Cullen will be taking up one of the last two companion slots.  Even though he's had somewhat of a presence in the past two games, there is a lot we don't know about him.  I don't care if he's a romance though. :)

 

I loooved Anders, but it felt really rushed to me. Like a lot more so than in Origins for some reason. Like we get back from TDR and I help him out a couple of times and suddenly he's obsessed with me and wanting to drown us in blood to keep me safe? I was like um didn't we just meet?? I think the time skips kinda messed things up. :lol:


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On an unrelated note, what did you not like about the DA 2 romances?  

 

On topic, I'm really hoping that Cullen will be taking up one of the last two companion slots.  Even though he's had somewhat of a presence in the past two games, there is a lot we don't know about him.  I don't care if he's a romance though. :)

 

I just found that they were very bland cutscenes and never really did much for me in the way of immersion. They were dulled down to Mass Effect kind of romances which were great when I first did them having never played an RPG before and not done romances, but after DAO, everything else is fantastically subpar. By that I specifically mean that in DAO the immersion was amazing. You really felt like you were having a conversation rather than watching a cutscene that had some pat responses which was how it went in DA2 and the ME games. In DAO I truly felt like I was getting to know these companions. I could respond in a myriad way and none of them were specifically pointing me toward a romance. I had actual conversations with them learning about them and interacting with them. That was some high level RPG right there. Different responses changed things sometimes only in a small way but sometimes quite dramatically. After playing DAO, I couldn't be bothered with DA2 romanced after giving it a go with Anders. It was really horribly done. Basically I chose a response and watched a movie play. That is not RPG in my book. It's very set path and does nothing to immerse me in it. I more or less couldn't really be bothered to care whereas in DAO I felt like I was really getting to know the characters and not just the romances but especially the romances, they felt very interactive. So I guess the main thing to me was that it felt interactive on a high level, detailed and it pulled you into it rather than the cutscene movies we get with DA2 which for me were wholly uninspiring.


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I loooved Anders, but it felt really rushed to me. Like a lot more so than in Origins for some reason. Like we get back from TDR and I help him out a couple of times and suddenly he's obsessed with me and wanting to drown us in blood to keep me safe? I was like um didn't we just meet?? I think the time skips kinda messed things up. :lol:

I think one of the major problems with DA2 is that they didn't always depict the time gaps well. You're with these people for a decade, but it really doesn't translate that well, in my opinion.  


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I think one of the major problems with DA2 is that they didn't always depict the time gaps well. You're with these people for a decade, but it really doesn't translate that well, in my opinion.  

 I think you just nailed what has bothered me with the time jumps! no it did not translate well at all and it just felt like you went onto the next day



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Heh, it would be kinda funny if turns out "I meant, yes there is romance and companionship in Dragon Age."

 

Neither question or answer really specified he was talking about Cullen then. ;)

That's actually how I read his response.  We use "romance" and "companion" as jargon words, almost; he's not necessarily going to put the same spin on them as we do. 

 

He must have thought the question a little odd.  I mean, it's a Bioware game, he'd be thinking, you know what they are like. 

 

Still, nothing but goodwill for the Cullen fans.  May we all get our hearts' desires, as they ... may have ... and may we live long enough to enjoy them. 



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I loooved Anders, but it felt really rushed to me. Like a lot more so than in Origins for some reason. Like we get back from TDR and I help him out a couple of times and suddenly he's obsessed with me and wanting to drown us in blood to keep me safe? I was like um didn't we just meet?? I think the time skips kinda messed things up. :lol:

 

That's how the LIs felt in game 2. Compared to DAO, every romance in DA2 was rushed with barely even responding to them. Hit the heart (talk about dumbing things down) and you are in romance with them. Also, there are only a few scenes. No time to get to know the characters or feel like an actual romance was taking place which I think is what your point is. Now compare that to say Alistair in DAO. Now he was particularly unique due to his character's upbringing, but you had several conversation with him and there was a sense of romance and getting to know each other and friendship and even courting. The whole thing was done so well that it was a very enjoyable experience. By the time he is asking you to spend the night with him, you feel like it's the right time and makes sense. It was just a much better experience in DAO with the characters because there was a reasonable progression. Not a quick chat then wham bam and your done never to really even acknowledge it again. And with DA2 it took place over so many years that you think they might have added in some more to it. Time wise, I had one romantic encounter or flirtation every few years. Does that even qualify as a romance? If it were real life, I think it would be more like a desperate attention starved booty call.


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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Cullen chaste? 

So far. ;)

 

Also, chased.  :P



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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Cullen chaste? 

 

He won't be when my Mage Inquisitor is done with him.


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He might of been faking embarrassment and having "drinks" at the brothel too like some of the other templars >.> CHASTE MY ARSE!



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Templars are supposedly meant to be chaste, but we don't know if Cullen is even still a templar in Inquisition. If he's joining the Inquisition, either in the capacity of a companion or an NPC advisor, it seems pretty reasonable that he may be a free agent now.



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Templars are supposedly meant to be chaste, but we don't know if Cullen is even still a templar in Inquisition. If he's joining the Inquisition, either in the capacity of a companion or an NPC advisor, it seems pretty reasonable that he may be a free agent now.

Aveline was married to a Templar.


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#139
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Aveline was married to a Templar.

I'll be honest, on this issue I was just taking other posters word for it. I checked the wiki and what it says is that the templar vow DOES NOT include a promise of chastity, but that templars are discouraged from marrying and having children. 

 

There's actually a link to some commentary on the issue by Gaider; http://social.biowar...01810/2#4813272



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There wouldn't be any NPC romance seeing as Mr. Gaider stated that he didn't like it due to the fact that it wouldn't as fulfilling as a companion romance. 

Well, that's a shame. I liked the concept on non-companion romances.



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I don't like NPC romances because I also think the quality of them is limited in comparison to companion romances. 



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I don't like NPC romances because I also think the quality of them is limited in comparison to companion romances. 

I can definitely see why he'd rather not, yet at the same time the only people you can fall in love with are those who follow you everywhere just seems a little unnatural to me.

 

Then again I've never been in a relationship so I only have media to go off of in determining these things.



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I can definitely see why he'd rather not, yet at the same time the only people you can fall in love with are those who follow you everywhere just seems a little unnatural to me.

 

Then again I've never been in a relationship so I only have media to go off of in determining these things.

Well, realistically, of course the hero could fall in love with a random shop keeper, or whatever. It's just that it doesn't actually translate to great in game content, imo. The NPCs don't get as much development because you only get to see them when you come back to the place they're always hanging out. You don't get any party banter or commentary during quests like you do with companions. I see that as an even bigger drawback now that they're making party banter interactive. 

 

It might be realistic to have NPC romances, but realistic isn't always the best thing when it comes to video games, or other media. Romances being tied to plot intensive characters with strong character development, both in and out of the relationship, makes for the best story, overall. It's my opinion that, in this case, realism isn't necessarily the better choice. 



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I don't like NPC romances because I also think the quality of them is limited in comparison to companion romances.


They worked pretty well in Mass Effect 3 for a variety of reasons, many of which probably don't apply to Dragon Age: Inquisition.
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#145
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You don't have to explain. As I said, I see their point even if I disagree with it. 

 

It doesn't bug me much. There are other things Inquisition doesn't have that bugs me a lot more.



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They worked pretty well in Mass Effect 3 for a variety of reasons, many of which probably don't apply to Dragon Age: Inquisition.

If you mean Cortez and Traynor, I didn't think it worked well. I was pretty disappointed in the Cortez romance. 



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Aveline was married to a Templar.

 

Did we ever find out how that happened? I can't imagine the Chantry legally sanctifying that marriage, if Wesley was meant to be chaste...



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Loved the Cortez romance, personally.  My second-favorite in all of the DA/ME games.  I think there are merits to non-companion romance, and I don't feel it's necessary for a love interest to be at your side at all times.  Considering most romantic development takes place at hubs I don't feel it makes much of a difference. Especially since you can also have events take place at hubs (thinking ME2's Collector breach where you play as Joker) that can also contribute to development.  Aside from that what you're left with is the party banter while walking around and the occasional location comment.  Maybe I'm biased since I've always been fond of "absence makes the heart grow fonder" kind of romances.  That and I just plain dislike that a companion I romance who might not fit into my party (which I choose strictly based on gameplay and party balance) basically becomes a bang-toy with nothing else to do but be my character's love interest.  

 

Even so I still want Cullen as a companion, heh.  If it's true they'll have no non-companion romances then I suppose that makes me a bit more confident that he might make the cut.  Just a bit.


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The whole party is gonna be sausage fest 2 females  cassi and vivi   males varric solas ironbull cullen   as i don't think sera will be a party member



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The how party is gonna be sausage festival 2 females cassi and vivi males varric solas ironbull cullen as i don't think sera will be a party member


Sera is pretty much a party member