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[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

I have played DA 2 with both male and female Hawke, Male Hawke was always a Warrior, I have played as a Female Warrior Hawke but I prefer Female Hawke to be a mage (I also prefer Fem Hawke over Male). 

[DuskWanderer]

I think the story is supposed to be with a mage. Otherwise, when Cassandra talks about it, it feels like Bethany is supposed to be the hero, not Hawke. 

[Pauravi]

While I do like being a mage, Carver really irritates me.  I find Bethany's kindness and relative innocence endearing, and her internal conflict of wanting freedom but hating and fearing (for others sake) her own powers more understandable.  She is inherently unselfish.  Contrast that with whiny, self-centered Carver, who, in a family that are 3/5ths mages, turns Templar -- a group that his family has been fleeing for their whole lives -- just so he can turn his own feelings of inadequacy into rebellious angst.  He may as well be 13 years old.

 

 

Yeah agreed OP story seems to be much better as a mage. At least then I can explain why Hawke doesn't just bounce after Leandra is dead. He can't.

 

As a warrior I didn't bounce because 1) I had friends and ties in the city and nothing to look forward to elsewhere, and 2) wasn't about to leave my little sister alone in the tower with a crazy Meredith.  Never even crossed my mind, really.

[Jukaga]

I just started my first DA2 game last night and I rolled a warrior of all things. It's odd for me as I usually prefer casters and my DAO import warden was a Morrigan romancing blood mage/arcane warrior so go figure.

[KaiserShep]

I think the story is supposed to be with a mage. Otherwise, when Cassandra talks about it, it feels like Bethany is supposed to be the hero, not Hawke.

I can't say I have a problem with this. I love playing Legacy with Bethany. I like having my Hawke be the "scoundrel" that makes her way through Kirkwall, while Bethany is the virtuous hero type.

[Jaison1986]

I can't say I have a problem with this. I love playing Legacy with Bethany.

 

I feel Bethany worked as the living reason for the hero to care about any of this. 

[Darkly Tranquil]

I found it very hard to take the whole Mage Hawke thing seriously, especially that conversation with Cullen when he goes on about how mages aren't people like "you and I". The sheer illogic of mage Hawke just running around Kirkwall while every other mage is cowering in corners required a level of suspension if disbelief that I couldn't ignore. And don't even get me started on Blood Mage Hawke...

 

I felt the version of the narrative that made the most sense was Warrior or Rogue Hawke with Bethany in the Gallows. Bethany (and Malcolm by extension) gives Hawke reason to be sympathetic to the mage cause, without the absurd contradiction of Hawke being a mage but somehow ignoring all the constraints experienced by all other mages. 

[Elite Midget]

I think the story is supposed to be with a mage. Otherwise, when Cassandra talks about it, it feels like Bethany is supposed to be the hero, not Hawke. 

Not really, Cassandra treats Hawke as the Hero still but tries to put two-and-two together and rightfully calls out Bethany as a huge reason for some of the things Hawke may or may not have done as Bethany is a Mage and Hawke's sibling. This is especially true if Bethany is forced from home and into the Circle which Cassandra also points out.

[Ozzy]

For me, it felt a lot more natural if you weren't a mage. Building such influence within Kirkwall feels like it would be easier if Hawke was a warrior or rogue. Having his sister as part of The Circle does add an extra element when dealing with the last decision too 

[Elite Midget]

The opening seems to support Hawke being a Two-Hander Warrior as well as it has the sword cut animation and sound at the start when Hawke kills their first Darkspawn after Bethany sets up her Firewall. If you're a Mage you do that with a VERY blunt staff while if you're a Rogue you only use 1 of your Daggers with the other put away.

 

Hmm... Looking at the romances again...

 

Carver -> Merrill

Merrill -> Hawke

Bethany -> Sebastian

Fenris <-> Isabela

Aveline <-> Donnic

Varric <-> Bianca

Dog <-> Bone

Anders <-> ???

 

Anders is all left out on that stuff, he doesn't have anyone pinning for him if he isn't romanced by Hawke. However, interesting enough Bethany makes note that Anders reminds her a lot of their father and there are drops that Anders is a lot like Malcolm in certain ways as well. Malcolm and Anders both have the Templar chasing them all the time, though I don't even Malcolm was ever a part of a Circle, and they both had contact with Grey Wardens due to circumstances. They both also preferred using their magic to save lives which got Malcolm in trouble and if Anders is romanced it gets him in trouble so he seeks shelter with Hawke.

 

Than there's how easy Anders can be romanced and is the most important plot character after Hawke and Varric, Isabela after him.

 

Malcolm also wished that his children didn't have magic. Besides, it would be easier for him to train only 1 Mage - Bethany over trying to train 2 without getting caught by the Templars. Bethany also better fits in as an Apostate Mage, as she's very alert to Templars and to stay hidden, while Hawke doesn't seem to care about avoiding Templars nor does Hawke seem to have any real knowledge on not getting caught.

 

The rivalry between Hawke and Carver also seems to fit better if they were both Warriors, thus a matter of strength and pride, and is explained by Bethany that Hawke and Carver often were stuck together as their father's little soldiers whom Malcolm was proud of thus a reason for them to compete as they would both try to be their father's favored. While if Hawke is a Mage as well than Hawke obviously wouldn't be allowed to do a lot of soldier stuff, especially out in the open due to the Templar risk.

 

After all, Bethany makes it rather clear that she wasn't allowed to do much of anything, because of her magic, and had to sit on the sidelines. Hawke is never given that treatment, or at least it's never stated, which makes no sense considering how hard Malcolm wanted to avoid the Templars and keep his family safe and together. So why risk things with Hawke, who by letters was VERY popular and well-known back at Lothering, running about but keeping Bethany sheltered when both share those same risks?

 

Seems like the game really wanted to be run through as a Two-Hander Warrior who romances Anders, though Male/Female is a toss-up as both can romance Anders very easily. I prefer FemHawke because her default look is miles better than ManHawke, in my opinion. That and FemHawke, without Magic, would be like her mother if she falls for the Apostate Anders whom is said to be a lot like Malcolm. So, Daughter like Mother.

 

Or Merrill, I guess, since even if you don't romance her the game makes it very obvious that she's in love with Hawke, regardless of gender, and regrets it if you never became a couple. She even cuts herself off from outright confessing to Hawke at the end of the game.

 

Oh, and another thing.

 

Carver does charge off at the start and gets killed while Bethany stands her ground so... "Mother's" statement doesn't really fit with what happened to Bethany but does for Carver.