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[SwobyJ]

I would support a control ending as canon is shep had the reapers fly off into dark space never to return and then sat inside the citadel and told everyone, "Okay, you're on your own."

 

Why would a Reaper let all of its kind die? ((((

[KaiserShep]

Maybe because reapers are too annoying to live.

[AlanC9]

Why would a Reaper let all of its kind die? ((((

 

Why would they die?

[von uber]

Actually, what fuel do reapers use?

[Tython]

Because it does matter.  If synthesis is picked it doesn't matter if you and your people were fighting reapers or had no clue they even exsisted that choice affected everyone.  However I hate that ending like no other and would have zero interest in a new Mass Effect game that used the green ending as cannon.  And yes they would have to pick one and make it cannon because the new game would be just to large (and expensive) and I would think very hard to pull off.  You nor anyone else has provided a working scenario for how BW could possiblity pull off a sequel that didn't take into account the choices made throughout ME1-3.

I've read a couple ideas. I came up with one that has a bunch of Alliance races on an ark type ship that manages to escape the Milky Way during the Reaper War. They arrive in another galaxy and look to find a planet to colonize to form a new Alliance in an effort to preserve their civilization. This fits the ME exploration theme and also how it doesn't tie to anything from the Shepard trilogy and doesn't have to use any ending. Players can play a couple different races too. I think it's the direction Bioware will go and while I don't necessarily like it, it's something different and will have a new feel to it but still retain ME elements while introducing new races and empires.

[Farangbaa]

They should make an MMO in the original MEU.

 

I'm serious.

 

The Citadel alone would be interesting enough for a game. Instead of reducing the Presidium to something you can walk about in 5 minutes, it would be humongous and would take hours to walk from one end to the other. Same for the Wards. They could put 100+ hours of gameplay in just the Citadel.

 

And then they could do the same for the homeworld of every species.

And the same for Omega and Illium.

 

When all that is done, they could add millions of 'Uncharted System X" expansions.

 

Again, I'm serious. I'm not really big on MMO's, but an ME MMO makes my heart skip more than a few beats.

[Steelcan]

After TORtanic and the rapidly failing ESO, I wouldn't expect a new MMO for a while

[Farangbaa]

I know, but still. ME is perfect for an MMO.

 

We could even meet the Raloi. Just sayin' 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

TOR's not quite dead yet. It's only had something like 2 expansions? It's got at least another half-decade of life in it.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I know, but still. ME is perfect for an MMO.

 

We could even meet the Raloi. Just sayin' 

 

Not really. I'd rather they stop making big series into MMO's.

 

And I could give two craps about the Raloi. I'm there to make humanity uppity.

[Farangbaa]

Not really. I'd rather they stop making big series into MMO's.

 

And I could give two craps about the Raloi. I'm there to make humanity uppity.

 

Then you could start an all-human guild/clan/whatever called Cerberus... lead by you.

 

just' sayin.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Then you could start an all-human guild/clan/whatever called Cerberus... lead by you.

 

just' sayin.

 

I'd rather my actions have an effect on the universe as a whole in a more streamlined game. I don't want to run around getting notifications that some goon wants to raid a base with me.

[CronoDragoon]

I used to think along similar lines, but after reading Crutch Cricket's ideas in this thread, I'm not so sure now. The major difference between the God Emperor and the new Shepard AI in control is that Leto was still organic. He may lost most of his humanity through his metamorphosis(both mental and physical), but he didn't lose it completely. He even had to chance to regain his lost humanity near the end because of his love for Hwi Noree. Shepard on the other hand, has become an AI. He still has his memories, but that's about it. He doesn't have a body of his own unlike Leto II, and he is also secluded. Add in all those memories from all the species who were harvested(not sure if memories is the right word, maybe data. I'm not clear on how breaking down an organic body to its base components and injecting it into a reaper shell imparts memories or data, but that's a whole other topic), and he could very well lose his sense of humanity. Leto II may have also had an abundance of other memory, but it was still memories of humans. The final difference is that Leto II's goal through becoming the God Emperor and bringing about the "Golden Age" was to teach humanity to never again seek such an existence after his death in order to strengthen the species and prepare it for Kralizec. However, Shepard becomes the guardian and protector of all the species in the galaxy(or brutal dictator depending on your alignment), and I'm not so sure his overall goal matches Leto II's. He may even become completely indifferent to all the species of the galaxy, and silently withdraw in order to understand the complexities of the Universe as Crutch Cricket suggests.

 

However, it's still interesting to think about.

 

I wasn't necessarily suggesting the entities would function the same or have the same goal, only that the process of the "protagonist" becoming a God Emperor, and seeing the effects that such a political entity would have on the universe, are interesting to me.

 

One main difference, to me, between Leto and Shepard is that I believe Shepard's alienation from humanity will become more pronounced with time. As the centuries stretch on his sense of time and the importance of certain pockets of time will change: he'll think in terms of races instead of individual lives, eras instead of generations. This alienation existed with Leto as soon as he entered the spice trance in Children of Dune. The combination of prescience and past lives erased any meaning "time" had for him. It allowed him to look at the long run seriously from the start.

 

This is why I think Shepard-AI's MO might change, for better or worse. Perhaps as he rules he'll identify that mass relays are a potential danger to the galaxy the same way Dune's monopoly on spice was. Consequently he might devote massive resources towards the progression of relay technology. What if one day relays didn't need pairs? What if relays could be carried on ships? Shepard might cause his own Scattering if he comes to conclude it necessary as a guardian of the galaxy. He might also simply conclude that the best thing for humanity is to go away. The slides imply he stays, but of course Shepard would stay and try to be an active force in the galaxy, wouldn't he? A Shepard-AI with thousands of years under his belt might think differently.

[Farangbaa]

I'd rather my actions have an effect on the universe as a whole in a more streamlined game. I don't want to run around getting notifications that some goon wants to raid a base with me.

 

Oh yeah, I hate that stuff too.

 

But I just want them to fully design the Citadel. That you can go to the tip of every arm and back, visit countless docking bays with countless species, and a fully designed presidium with a tower that's more than just an elevator.

 

I want to meet those "dozens of species in the Wards" (Barla Vonn, ME1), instead of the few we met now.

 

There's so much left unexplored in the ME-ME3. 

 

Palaven? We only see it dressed in explosions. We don't even visit it... we go to its *(&@#(*!@# moon.

Thessia? We only see it in ruins and/or about to be ruined.

Kahje? We only hear of it.

Earth? We only see it in ruins and/or about to be ruined.

Heshtok? We only hear of it.

Irune? We only hear of it (and we get to scan the planet. Wooptiedoo)

Dekuuna? We only hear of it (and we get to scan the planet. Wooptiedoo)

Kharshan? We only hear of it... being ruined

Sur'Kesh? I'm pretty sure there's more on that planet than a science station, don't ya think?

Suen? We only hear of it. (though I doubt there's much to be seen there after the Krogan)

Turvess? We only hear of it. (for those wondering: Raloi homeworld)

 

I think we get to see the most of Tuchanka... isn't that hilarious? The most ruined planet of all we get to see the most of. Damn. And that's still preposterously little.

 

And the only type of game I can see working out most of the above is an MMO. That's why I want an MMO. 

[Iakus]

I would support a control ending as canon if shep had the reapers fly off into dark space never to return and then sat inside the citadel and told everyone, "Okay, you're on your own."

 

I support a "Reapers go away and let us deal with our synthetic "problem" on our own without Shepard having to burn for it.

[Farangbaa]

I support a "Reapers go away and let us deal with our synthetic "problem" on our own without Shepard having to burn for it.

 

You really need to get over the ending.

[Iakus]

 

And the only type of game I can see working out most of the above is an MMO. That's why I want an MMO. 

 

And I'd rather the Mass Effect galaxy not be reduced to "bring the Shadow Broker agent ten Pristine Eclipse Helmets for 100 credits and a piece of green quality gear"

[Staff Cdr Alenko]

You really need to get over the ending.

And why should he? Enlighten us.

[Farangbaa]

And why should he? Enlighten us.

 

He's like that guy that's still whining about that girl that dumped him 5 years ago.

That guy that turns every conversation about a girl into a conversation about that girl that dumped him 5 years ago.

[mybudgee]

ME4 is an absolutely terrible idea

[AlanC9]

He's like that guy that's still whining about that girl that dumped him 5 years ago.
That guy that turns every conversation about a girl into a conversation about that girl that dumped him 5 years ago.

Yeah, but that's his role here. Think of him as Mike from Veep. (Season 1 Mike, anyway.)

At this point aren't we all just playing our parts?

[Staff Cdr Alenko]

Yeah, but that's his role here. Think of him as Mike from Veep. (Season 1 Mike, anyway.)

At this point aren't we all just playing our parts?

Well, count me in then. The ending was rubbish. In fact, most of ME3 was rubbish. So if there are those who are still willing to kindly remind that to people, then good for them!

[Farangbaa]

Well, count me in then. The ending was rubbish. In fact, most of ME3 was rubbish. So if there are those who are still willing to kindly remind that to people, then good for them!

 

That's fine, really.

 

It's a whole other thing to find a way to post in every damn topic that you want them to change the ending. It´s not going to happen.

[AlanC9]

If they want to look ridiculous, isn't that their business?