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[Kurt M.]

I'm sure Shepard would've done something, not sure what with the SR1 blown up, instead of having the ME1 characters sitting around doing a whole lot of nothing for 2 years like they did when Shepard was  dead

 

According to Traynor, the Alliance was merely "doing some studies" while the Collectors were abducting colonies, and even in the events of Paragon Lost the Collectors had to hit first before they put any intention of fighting back. So unless Shepard went the Renegade way and quit the Alliance, I doubt a Paragon one would have done anything (except "fighting Geth" like a possesed).

[themikefest]

According to Traynor, the Alliance was merely "doing some studies" while the Collectors were abducting colonies, and even in the events of Paragon Lost the Collectors had to hit first before they put any intention of fighting back. So unless Shepard went the Renegade way and quit the Alliance, I doubt a Paragon one would have done anything (except "fighting Geth" like a possesed).

I doubt a paragon would sit around doing nothing. It would be out-of-character for Shepard to do that. And if it takes leaving the Alliance to do something, than thats what Shepard would do. Its obvious the Alliance doesn't care. They cry like babies at the beginning of ME3 for Shepard to do something. Idiots. 

[Swan Killer]

The lady at the refugee area, who unlocks the Shepard VI for you has the same VA as Kasumi. It's so obvious, I have no idea how I've been missing it till today.

[birefringent]

According to Traynor, the Alliance was merely "doing some studies" while the Collectors were abducting colonies, and even in the events of Paragon Lost the Collectors had to hit first before they put any intention of fighting back. So unless Shepard went the Renegade way and quit the Alliance, I doubt a Paragon one would have done anything (except "fighting Geth" like a possesed).

I doubt a paragon would sit around doing nothing. It would be out-of-character for Shepard to do that. And if it takes leaving the Alliance to do something, than thats what Shepard would do. Its obvious the Alliance doesn't care. They cry like babies at the beginning of ME3 for Shepard to do something. Idiots. 

Yep. Shepard is a Spectre so going out and investigating the Collectors is a lot like trying to find Saren and discovering the Reapers in the process. The Collectors have been around a long time as a minor thing, but if entire colonies start vanishing then that is more than enough for a Spectre to hop on the job as a possible galaxy wide threat

 

The Council are just d*cks for claiming it's just a human-problem. Hey Council. Entire colonies are vanishing to an unknown alien aggressor. You'd think that would at least get your attention to investigate things. Same goes for the Systems Alliance.

 

But due to story reasons they do nothing and we get to play ME2

[Valmar]

The Collectors have been around a long time as a minor thing, but if entire colonies start vanishing then that is more than enough for a Spectre to hop on the job as a possible galaxy wide threat

 

Cerberus were the only ones we know of who were actively investigating the situation and trying to discover the culprits and even they didn't know for sure it was them until Freedom's Progress. The issue clearly isn't that important to the spectre's since we don't hear from any other spectre searching for information on the subject. Cerberus and Shepard seem to be the only ones taking the collector threat seriously, yes, but at the time they were the only ones who really knew it was them.

 

 

The Council are just d*cks for claiming it's just a human-problem. Hey Council. Entire colonies are vanishing to an unknown alien aggressor. You'd think that would at least get your attention to investigate things. Same goes for the Systems Alliance.

 

 

The missing colonies were all outside council space. They don't guard or protect colonies placed outside their boarders, its part of the dangers that come with colonizing worlds in the terminus.

 

The Alliance were clearly doing SOMETHING. They sent Vega's team to protect one colony (Fehl Prime) in the terminus and plus they invested in the defense towers on Horizon. They just had no actual evidence at the time that the collectors were the ones behind the missing colonies. I don't blame them for assuming it was pirates - the batarians especially have a nack for this sort of thing. The terminus is a dangerous place.

 

IMO, prior to the events of Horizon or Fehl Prime (whichever happened first), neither the alliance or the council had any reason to assume the missing colonies were due to anything other than pirates and slavers. I'd sooner believe it was the batarians responsible for it rather than think it was some mysterious species that the majority of people believe are fictional boogeymen.

[Vazgen]

Cerberus Fighter Base mission is in the same cluster as the Illusive Man's base. Makes me wonder, why didn't he move the base if the Alliance was so close...

[Swan Killer]

Hiding in plain sight I guess. However, I hope you realize that even though they were in the same cluster, we are talking about millions of kilometers in space, so it's not like "hey, there's a space station over there, let's go check it out!"

[Vazgen]

Hiding in plain sight I guess. However, I hope you realize that even though they were in the same cluster, we are talking about millions of kilometers in space, so it's not like "hey, there's a space station over there, let's go check it out!"

I do realize that. Though it still seems a gamble to me. The Alliance are searching for his base, they destroy the base in the same cluster... 

Although come to think of it, the fighter base is in the system with the mass relay. So by capturing it, the Alliance cuts the escape route for the headquarters.

[cap and gown]

I just noticed that during the cutscene when Tali meets with Ambassador Udina in ME1, she has a shotgun on her back. No other weapons, just a shotgun.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

I'm still wondering how TIM didn't move the base between ME2 events and ME3...

 

Miranda was there. She defected. Then, the base is still in the same spot as it always is.

 

Of course, I don't really know what it could be, because actually(In my guess) TIM moves to another System in the end of the Suicide Mission in ME2(Notice the Sun Color) and then after some time, he decided to move back because presumably he thought that "They won't look in the same spot twice"

[Valmar]

I'm still wondering how TIM didn't move the base between ME2 events and ME3...

 

Miranda was there. She defected. Then, the base is still in the same spot as it always is.

 

Of course, I don't really know what it could be, because actually(In my guess) TIM moves to another System in the end of the Suicide Mission in ME2(Notice the Sun Color) and then after some time, he decided to move back because presumably he thought that "They won't look in the same spot twice"

 

What makes you so sure he didn't move it?

 

 

"In Mass Effect 2, the Illusive Man is always shown with a backdrop of a multicolored sun in the background. This view however can change. In the book Mass Effect: Retribution, it is revealed that this view is from a view port of a mobile unnamed space station. The space station's location is kept secret with a level of paranoia that is unmatched, but proves entirely effective. Only 6 Cerberus field agents have ever stepped aboard, and every time they or anyone leaves again, the space station is moved to an entirely new system to keep the location unknown to potential enemies, and even his own agents. The Illusive Man has hand picked the two dozen Cerberus agents who man the station, and these members are the most loyal and devoted of all his followers, willing to give their lives in an instant to protect him."

[Fixers0]

What makes you so sure he didn't move it?

 

 

"In Mass Effect 2, the Illusive Man is always shown with a backdrop of a multicolored sun in the background. This view however can change. In the book Mass Effect: Retribution, it is revealed that this view is from a view port of a mobile unnamed space station. The space station's location is kept secret with a level of paranoia that is unmatched, but proves entirely effective. Only 6 Cerberus field agents have ever stepped aboard, and every time they or anyone leaves again, the space station is moved to an entirely new system to keep the location unknown to potential enemies, and even his own agents. The Illusive Man has hand picked the two dozen Cerberus agents who man the station, and these members are the most loyal and devoted of all his followers, willing to give their lives in an instant to protect him."

 

 

Pretty sure there were more then just two dozen bad guys on Cronos station in ME3.

[Valmar]

Pretty sure there were more then just two dozen bad guys on Cronos station in ME3.

 

To be fair, they're all indoctrinated and completely loyal to Cerberus so there is no threat of leaking secrets. Even Jack and Legion can, potentially, be loyally fighting for Cerberus. Cerberus did not have indoctrination to this degree in ME2. Since these two-dozen policy was strictly due to trust issues and ensuring everyone is absolutely loyal it makes sense that he has considerably more troops there in ME3 thanks to the the cerberus indoctrination.

[Fixers0]

To be fair, they're all indoctrinated and completely loyal to Cerberus so there is no threat of leaking secrets. Even Jack and Legion can, potentially, be loyally fighting for Cerberus. Cerberus did not have indoctrination to this degree in ME2. Since these two-dozen policy was strictly due to trust issues and ensuring everyone is absolutely loyal it makes sense that he has considerably more troops there in ME3 thanks to the the cerberus indoctrination.

Yeah, I'm so glad they had to forsight to constructe massive spacestation that would eventualy house a couple hundred personel but for time  being is only staffed by two dozens lackies. You'd think they'd had some serious understaffing issues back in the day.

 

And since it's a moveable station, maybe it isn't the smartest bet to keep next the star you're number 1 enemy has seen you all the time, no wonder even Hackett could figure out it's location.

[Valmar]

Yeah, I'm so glad they had to forsight to constructe massive spacestation that would eventualy house a couple hundred personel but for time  being is only staffed by two dozens lackies. You'd think they'd had some serious understaffing issues back in the day.

 

And since it's a moveable station, maybe it isn't the smartest bet to keep next the star you're number 1 enemy has seen you all the time, no wonder even Hackett could figure out it's location.

 

Its possible station is largely automated. Cerberus did create EDI and EVA, afterall. Or maybe they made the station larger specifically to allow the housing of more troops. Who knows.

 

Also, despite popular belief with The Illusive Man, there does exist more than one star in the galaxy. Infact we can see a blue and red star together just like Illusive Man has outside his view port on a world during the first Mass Effect. Just because he happens to prefer positioning the ship in view of one of these stars doesn't mean "oh! I know exactly where he is!"

 

The galaxy is a really, really big place. Theres like hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone. That star does not provide any real meaningful way of actually tracking him down. To think that it does is to gravely underestimate the astronomical safe of the galaxy (hur hur).

[themikefest]

If Shepard saves the collector base, the star behind TIM is red

Spoiler

 

 

If Shepard destroys the collector  base, the star behind TIM is blue

Spoiler

[Fixers0]

Its possible station is largely automated. Cerberus did create EDI and EVA, afterall. Or maybe they made the station larger specifically to allow the housing of more troops. Who knows.

 

Conjecture, In other words. If you ask the writers should just pay just a little more attention to their own lore.

 

 

Also, despite popular belief with The Illusive Man, there does exist more than one star in the galaxy. Infact we can see a blue and red star together just like Illusive Man has outside his view port on a world during the first Mass Effect. Just because he happens to prefer positioning the ship in view of one of these stars doesn't mean "oh! I know exactly where he is!"

 

The galaxy is a really, really big place. Theres like hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone. That star does not provide any real meaningful way of actually tracking him down. To think that it does is to gravely underestimate the astronomical safe of the galaxy (hur hur).

 

Well, then I still find amazing that he managed to find another rare dying star that looks 100% same as the one Shepard's has seen him all the time.

[Swan Killer]

Conjecture, In other words. If you ask the writers should just pay just a little more attention to their own lore.

 

 

 

Well, then I still find amazing that he managed to find another rare dying star that looks 100% same as the one Shepard's has seen him all the time.

 

For all we know, he could be sitting in his grandma's basement, with a projection of a dying star in the background.

[Valmar]

Conjecture, In other words. If you ask the writers should just pay just a little more attention to their own lore.

 

True. Point was we don't really know one way or another and there are explanations you can come up with to explain it away if it bothers you so much.

 

 

Well, then I still find amazing that he managed to find another rare dying star that looks 100% same as the one Shepard's has seen him all the time.

 

I don't see it as being all that amazing, personally. The galaxy is a really huge place. The amazing thing would be if there was only one of those stars out there for him to park beside. Hell, I saw both a red one and a blue one side-by-side to one another above a planet in the FIRST game. They're rare on a astronomical scale but relative to us that doesn't mean there's only two or three of them out there.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

True. Point was we don't really know one way or another and there are explanations you can come up with to explain it away if it bothers you so much.

 

 

 

I don't see it as being all that amazing, personally. The galaxy is a really huge place. The amazing thing would be if there was only one of those stars out there for him to park beside. Hell, I saw both a red one and a blue one side-by-side to one another above a planet in the FIRST game. They're rare on a astronomical scale but relative to us that doesn't mean there's only two or three of them out there.

 

I saw it too. I actually thought that was where he was... But I forgot the name of the planet... IIRC, it was a Snowy Planet...

[Valmar]

I saw it too. I actually thought that was where he was... But I forgot the name of the planet... IIRC, it was a Snowy Planet...

 

If my memory serves me correctly it was one of the planets you visit during the geth incursion side mission. Mike probably knows. Lol.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

If my memory serves me correctly it was one of the planets you visit during the geth incursion side mission. Mike probably knows. Lol.

 

Hmmm... This one?

 

It's Maji.

 

Also, I discovered that if you choose Refuse, you won't get the Long Service Medal and/or the Legend Achievements.

[Valmar]

^Yes, precisely that one.

 

In hindsight, I should had figured MegaIllusiveMan would know about that. Lol.

[Kurt M.]

I've always knew that ME2's enemies have lines for when you activate any ammo power (kinda like "Warning: Hostiles in non-standart ammunition", or something similar from LOKI Mechs), but this is the first time I've heard "Crap" when activating it while facing Eclipse mercs.

 

I admit: that put a smile on my face

[cap and gown]

I just found a way to mind meld with Liara only once (besides saving Therum for last). My mission order has been Noveria -> Therum -> Virmire and Liara has yet to mind meld with Shepard. I didn't know that without the cipher Liara would not mind meld.