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After many trilogy runs, I only just realized through youtube that you can actually move the HUD while in Command/Pause Mode.

Also since I'm on a role of revelations I should know, can someone tell me how the health regen between ME3MP waves works? Do you just get a random amount of bars back?
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After many trilogy runs, I only just realized through youtube that you can actually move the HUD while in Command/Pause Mode.

Also since I'm on a role of revelations I should know, can someone tell me how the health regen between ME3MP waves works? Do you just get a random amount of bars back?

It depends on the Difficulty level. Platinum you will only regenerate one bar of health after a wave ends, on Gold two bars of health and so on.



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I mean't to add that if, on the higher difficulties of Gold/Platinum and you are down to one health bar and you are suffering from DOT from a Banshee Warp Ball or Scion Cannon, and the wave ends you might not regenerate any health at all.


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I did Mordin's loyalty mission before the Collector ship and I found out that his dialogue about art and the Collectors is different because you haven't discovered that the Collectors are Protheans.

Also in Tuchanka if you talk to Fortak, the krogan scientist before doing Grunt's loyalty mission you need to charm/intimidate him in order to talk with him.


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I just discovered last night in ME3 that the screens mounted on the wall in Liara's quarters on the Normandy follow your movements around the room so they always face you.

But if you get behind them, as far against the wall by the glass that separates the room, they will reset and face Liara.

 

And it was only like the 100th time I've visited her room.



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I've discovered there's a dialogue change with Traynor's chess tournament if you do the scene post-horizon. Instead of crediting Traynor saving Grissom Academy, Shepard instead credit Traynor for her role in taking down Cerberus. <3 okay this is canon sequence for me. 


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I've discovered there's a dialogue change with Traynor's chess tournament if you do the scene post-horizon. Instead of crediting Traynor saving Grissom Academy, Shepard instead credit Traynor for her role in taking down Cerberus. <3 okay this is canon sequence for me. 

Yep. Try not having femshep say anything during the match. This will happen


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I've discovered there's a dialogue change with Traynor's chess tournament if you do the scene post-horizon. Instead of crediting Traynor saving Grissom Academy, Shepard instead credit Traynor for her role in taking down Cerberus. <3 okay this is canon sequence for me. 

 

What if you also DON'T save the Academy? :D



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What if you also DON'T save the Academy? :D

I've done that once, at least with the dlc, but it was after I did Sanctuary. 

 

I might not do the academy mission just to hear what the dialogue might be. I am planning on another ME3 playthrough. Time will tell.



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I've done that once, at least with the dlc, but it was after I did Sanctuary. 

 

I might not do the academy mission just to hear what the dialogue might be. I am planning on another ME3 playthrough. Time will tell.

 

This is beneath you. You're pro-human, yo.

 

If not for Jack, do it for Traynor. And Rodriguez. :P



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This is beneath you. You're pro-human, yo.

 

If not for Jack, do it for Traynor. And Rodriguez. :P

I'll only do it to hear the different dialogue. Before I have that scene I will make a save before doing Grissom mission and another save before talking with Sam during that space chess scene since the dialogue changes if renegade or paragon is chosen. Once done, and if there is a difference, I will make a note of it in her group/thread, load up the save before Grissom and do that mission. 

 

If you didn't know, Traynor has dialogue mentioning Grissom after the coup if that mission wasn't completed


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I'll only do it to hear the different dialogue. Before I have that scene I will make a save before doing Grissom mission and another save before talking with Sam during that space chess scene since the dialogue changes if renegade or paragon is chosen. Once done, and if there is a difference, I will make a note of it in her group/thread, load up the save before Grissom and do that mission. 

 

If you didn't know, Traynor has dialogue mentioning Grissom after the coup if that mission wasn't completed

 

I didn't know she had it. I don't want to know the details  ;)

 

Seriously though, I'm just screwing with you. I understand sampling different things. But I think these human centric missions are where Traynor shines. The rest of the game we're gallivanting around, doing all kinds of favors for aliens.. She's the only one thinking about humans and what they could be after the war..what's worth saving longterm.


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I'll only do it to hear the different dialogue. Before I have that scene I will make a save before doing Grissom mission and another save before talking with Sam during that space chess scene since the dialogue changes if renegade or paragon is chosen. Once done, and if there is a difference, I will make a note of it in her group/thread, load up the save before Grissom and do that mission. 

 

If you didn't know, Traynor has dialogue mentioning Grissom after the coup if that mission wasn't completed

 

Mike, don't let Street dissuade you. I rely on you to do the dirty work necessary for us to find out all the variations possible. ;) (Too bad you don't have a way to record this stuff so I could check it out on youtube.)


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Mike, don't let Street dissuade you. I rely on you to do the dirty work necessary for us to find out all the variations possible. ;) (Too bad you don't have a way to record this stuff so I could check it out on youtube.)

Thanks. I can play the game very quickly so it won't take long 


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ME3 really takes for granted that Garrus and Wrex were both recruited in ME1. I was playing ME3 just now and took Wreav, James and Garrus to rescue the Krogan female.

 

When I was facing the boss atlas Garrus commented that Wreav made him miss Wrex.

 

Ok, a little head-canon can make Garrus be referring to Wrex at the citadel, since they obviously saw each other, one being able to point directions to where the other might be depending on who you decide to talk to first.

 

But what I can´t correct using head-canon was Kirrahe saying to me a few moments earlier that my shepard´s stand-off with Wrex on Virmire was legendary. 

 

Now wait a second. I never took Wrex to Virmire. Nor any other place. He passed by me at Fist´s club and then approached me at C-sec to join the crew, but was refused, never to be seen again. I did not recruit him, nor did I kill him (not this time). 

 

Even though the ME Team created a lot of interesting possibilities, they also overlooked some rather big holes. 


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ME3 really takes for granted that Garrus and Wrex were both recruited in ME1. I was playing ME3 just now and took Wreav, James and Garrus to rescue the Krogan female.

 

When I was facing the boss atlas Garrus commented that Wreav made him miss Wrex.

 

Ok, a little head-canon can make Garrus be referring to Wrex at the citadel, since they obviously saw each other, one being able to point directions to where the other might be depending on who you decide to talk to first.

 

But what I can´t correct using head-canon was Kirrahe saying to me a few moments earlier that my shepard´s stand-off with Wrex on Virmire was legendary. 

 

Now wait a second. I never took Wrex to Virmire. Nor any other place. He passed by me at Fist´s club and then approached me at C-sec to join the crew, but was refused, never to be seen again. I did not recruit him, nor did I kill him (not this time). 

 

Even though the ME Team created a lot of interesting possibilities, they also overlooked some rather big holes. 

Yep

 

Apparently Garrus and Kirrahe know each other if Garrus was never recruited.

 

Even Liara and Kirrahe know each other even if she is rescued after Virmire.

 

And just like Garrus mentioning Wrex when fighting the atlas, Liara will mention Wrex even though he was never recruited

 

There are others

 

If Garrus is not recruited in ME1, Shepard never goes to Illium, Liara and Garrus will recognize each other on Menae. If Garrus is dead, Liara will mention "Where would Garrus be in all this?"

 

When shooting the bottles, Garrus will mention Feros, Noveria and Ilos even though he wasn't recruited in ME1

 

During the time capsule scene, Liara will say she wished she joined you back on Illium when the player never went there in ME2


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Man, Citadel is really, really weird.

 

Shepard can openly discuss the Alliance´s plans to raid the Cerberus base and recover the Prothean VI that is crucial to find the Catalyst and then finish the war that can result in the annihilation of all dominant species. He/she can talk about it out loud, in public, surrounded by people he/she never met before, when that same citadel fell under cerberus control just a short time prior to this, thanks to several sleeper agents across the place. And all this in order to distract an Asari opponent who´s playing a videogame with Traynor. 

 

This is irresponsible beyond asinine. It´s lousy. Even worse than choosing to destroy the collector base not for fear of indoctrination, but merely because terrible things happened there. It´s like blowing up a nazi camp instead of collecting all available evidence. No wonder so many people to this day believe that shepard was being slowly indoctrinated over the course of the trilogy.

 

It´s fun, I´ll grant that. But is also badly written. It´s only bad should we decide to THINK about it. 


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This is irresponsible beyond asinine. It´s lousy. Even worse than choosing to destroy the collector base not for fear of indoctrination, but merely because terrible things happened there. It´s like blowing up a nazi camp instead of collecting all available evidence.

 

There's a third reason. The one Legion compliments you on --- destruction is a statement of self-sufficiency. This Shepard wants to humanity to build it's own future, to get things back on as clean a slate as possible, without the presence of Reapers/reaper tech.

 

This is the tragedy of all the cycles, it's what Mordin laments when Salarians originally uplifted the Krogan, and it's what started TIM on a downward spiral in the comics (and what happened to Saren's brother as well). There's a bigger evolutionary concern here, and not just fear of indoctrination.

 

It's also why I shoot Legion later.. the very champion of this idea, originally.


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Yeah, all of this while commanding a ship that is in part reaper tech, equipped with a fully conscious AI that is also made of reaper tech. I would not be surprised, given how groundbreaking shepards injuries were and how an expert declared him irrecoverable that cerberus actually used reaper tech to re-animate him. Remember saren being declared dead and then being reactivated thanks to the reaper implants? I was kinda hoping for a big explanation featuring this, and how destroying everything would result in edi and shepard´s deaths since both are reaper tech.

 

I don´t think there´s any room for self-sufficiency in the galaxy. Shepard clearly says this, no matter his/her background and alignment when trying to reach the turian leader. To defeat the reapers you need to unite the galaxy. Self-sufficiency goes counter the whole premise of the series. 

 

Information can´t be tainted. The methods in order to obtain the info can. But information itself can´t be bad. If the information was already extracted and is available, there´s no harm in making use of it. Resorting to an outer source of information is not degrading in any way, nor a testament of incapacity. True strength is to acknowledge one´s weakness, one´s deficiency´s, one´s needs. Both the Europeans and the Chinese were proud and capable people, and even so, when the Portuguese ships reached China they exchanged a lot of info in all kinds of fields, both being enriched by this shared info.

 

We are talking about useful info. Info that can save humanity and other races. It makes no difference to me if it was brought to the table by the rachni, leviathan, cerberus, kasumi, zaed, the volus, the asari, the protheans, Edi or even the reapers themselves. It´s no use being proud and stupid simply because other people reached a conclusion prior to you, or another country discovered how a mathematical formula works. Willfully ignorance is always folly, is never wise if the info is already available.

 

Specially when it comes to reaper tech, considering that your government and the  galaxy epicenter are located inside a mega-structure that is reaper tech, your ship is reaper tech, the on-board AI is reaper tech, the catalyst required to end it all is reaper tech, and even you after being declared dead and then brought back might as well be reaper tech. 

 

Besides, from what I understood, the mass relays are not supposed to guide the technological evolution, only to speed up the cycles, then preventing species from becoming extinct too soon by themselves. Sovereign clearly had issues. If it was an organic he would be suffering from delusions of grandeur. It was clearly delusional. We can´t take sovereign´s word at face value. It stated that it was an eternal machined. That the reapers always existed. It was playing God just like it did with the geth. Even AIs like Edi are capable of lying. Surely they lie to others. It´s possible that they lie to themselves in the ME universe as well. A machine has to be created, either by another machine(s), organic being(s) or a combination of both. There´s no spontaneous generation of a machine, nor can it be eternal, having always existed. Only the narrator of a story needs to be absolutely correct regarding the info stated in order to play fair with the audience. A character, specially the villain when addressing the hero, does not. Characters can be mistaken, can blatantly lie and can be deluded. 

 

Maybe they are simply speeding up the inevitable process. Maybe it´s inevitable  that a species that is capable of both hearing and vision discovers how to record and re-transmit sound prior to video imaging. Radio needing to precede tv. Maybe it´s also inevitable that we land creatures always develop land vehicles prior to flying ones. When the catalyst studied the problem for the leviathans it studied numerous occurrences of machines versus biological beings. And it also observed several reaper cycles prior to creating the mass relays. Most likely it created them so that a harvesting could happen without missing or wasting any species. 


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Tbh, both lines are pretty weird.

"I won't let fear compromise who I am" -_-

"Threat this big, rules go out of the window"  :huh:



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Playing ME2 through as a vanguard. During close combat, I just noticed that you can see the bloodlust animation when fighting Vorcha, pretty cool!

Also if you start flipping through the Galactic News on the Citadel till Emily Wong starts reporting in, if you walk over to C-Sec station (by Cpt. Bailey), you can actually see her face on one of the C-Sec monitors.


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Yeah, all of this while commanding a ship that is in part reaper tech, equipped with a fully conscious AI that is also made of reaper tech. I would not be surprised, given how groundbreaking shepards injuries were and how an expert declared him irrecoverable that cerberus actually used reaper tech to re-animate him. Remember saren being declared dead and then being reactivated thanks to the reaper implants? I was kinda hoping for a big explanation featuring this, and how destroying everything would result in edi and shepard´s deaths since both are reaper tech.

 

 

 

Your list starts with things out of my control. I'm not going to restrict roleplaying just because the writers aren't thorough enough with all of my options with EDI, for example. I'm not going to stop destroying the Collector Base for that. You're basically telling me there's a canon and I should let myself be railroaded into a Reaper tech friendly mentality. Like it's more consistent with who Shepard "really" is or something.

 

There's still room for having your own personality despite this. Maybe not in every aspect of the series, but with the big epic choices.  The bulk of the games are simply meant for exploring ideas. They want us to examine and live with different ideas/characters for awhile. While the endings are taking a final stance. It's an odd way of decision making, it's not perfect, but I'm not gonna let it ruin my fun. What little "RP" fun there is. :)


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Just noticed the Quarian and Turian in Illium got mad at me for eavesdropping on their convo about Fleet and Flotilla.

 

 

"Uh, excuse me human. Private conversation. Ugh."


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Just noticed the Quarian and Turian in Illium got mad at me for eavesdropping on their convo about Fleet and Flotilla.

 

 

"Uh, excuse me human. Private conversation. Ugh."

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Just noticed the Quarian and Turian in Illium got mad at me for eavesdropping on their convo about Fleet and Flotilla.

 

 

"Uh, excuse me human. Private conversation. Ugh."

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