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[Mineko]

I don't think I've used charm specifically there. Just intimidate.... as if these poor people aren't traumatized enough.

Hahaha, poor them.

 

I'm that person stupid enough to feel bad while behaving like a dick on a videogame. So I mostly play Paragon. Even though I must say I've watched loads of videos, and some of the Renegade conversation options are truly hilarious.

[fraggle]

Hahaha, poor them.

 

I'm that person stupid enough to feel bad while behaving like a dick on a videogame.

 

I'm the same, but I've come to the conclusion that a healthy mix of Paragon and Renegade is the way to go for me I often also find myself now picking a neutral option.

[SwobyJ]

I've played very strongly Paragon, and that remains my basis, but ME3 (and my theorizing about it afterward) has spread out the love to being a mix/'Green'(?) and Renegade. I ended up Renegade sometimes when it felt really fun and not overly harmful, and when it came to the Reapers (except trying to understand them; I didn't suddenly destroy the Rannoch Reaper for example). I found myself becoming more and more of a mix as I played the game (NG+, Continue+, NG). Still, I've never picked Control, and only Synthesis once before changing it to High Destroy. This won't change until I get new trilogy profiles set up and going, maybe this year to sate the Mass Effect hype coming up.

 

TLDR: I've been super Paragon but I've learned to be a mix or even strongly Renegade in select cases.

I don't trend Renegade in ME1 because he's just kinda a jerk. I don't trend Renegade in ME2 because I'd rather play close to Hero than Anti-Hero, at least for the most part.

[birefringent]

If you ever wondered about that email you got from Morlan in Mass Effect 2.

http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Morlan

[aoibhealfae]

I have several male and female Shepard runs but only a few of them are complete trilogy runs. I have two Paragon runs which is my first two playthrough ; Shierra Shepard (Earthborn/Ruthless) who is a reformed Renegade and Andraste Shepard (Spacer/SoleSurvivor) who I dubbed as Kara Thrace, the generic military brat with mommy issues. Then Paragade Aoife Shepard and then my current canon Renegon, Revka Shepard (Colonist/SoleSurvivor).  

 

I never finish a pure Renegade run. I tried but... there were a LOT of renegade moments in ME1 that was plain stupid and plain mean that I lose interest. In ME2, at least a lot of renegade moments are really badass but if you're not careful, you became too Pro-Cerberus as a Renegade. Fortunately, you use reputation points in ME3 so its alright if you don't align to either Renegade or Paragon. It doesn't matter in the end since its a leftover system from KotOR. You don't get to be a Sith Lord anyway.. except for that creepy glowy face.

[voteDC]

I've not completed a ME3 run with male Shepard yet. It's weird noticing all the little things that change, even subtle things like how Anderson reacts with you at the start.

[aoibhealfae]

I've not completed a ME3 run with male Shepard yet. It's weird noticing all the little things that change, even subtle things like how Anderson reacts with you at the start.

I notice the same too in ME3. Anderson and FemShep interacted like a pair of close friends... or at least, with a degree of warmth, trust and some tension while BroShep who was surprisingly cold and indifferent. It really does feel like you're playing two different game....

[Fixers0]

I never finish a pure Renegade run. I tried but... there were a LOT of renegade moments in ME1 that was plain stupid and plain mean that I lose interest. In ME2, at least a lot of renegade moments are really badass but if you're not careful, you became too Pro-Cerberus as a Renegade. Fortunately, you use reputation points in ME3 so its alright if you don't align to either Renegade or Paragon. It doesn't matter in the end since its a leftover system from KotOR. You don't get to be a Sith Lord anyway.. except for that creepy glowy face.

 

I'm rather curious, What exactly was so bad about renegade in ME1, I actully thought Renegade in Mass Effect was better executed than in Mass Effect 2 because it centered more around ideology and less around being a film-esque anti-hero who pulls off all kinds of crazy stunts.

[aoibhealfae]

I'm rather curious, What exactly was so bad about renegade in ME1, I actully thought Renegade in Mass Effect was better executed than in Mass Effect 2 because it centered more around ideology and less around being a film-esque anti-hero who pulls off all kinds of crazy stunts.

Let's see.... a scientist starts babbling something foreshadowing and you shut him up with a punch. A reporter is being annoying, you punch her to shut her up. You have a chance to end an ugly situation in peace without killing everyone and yet you go ahead and kill everyone. You go to noveria and you found rachni trying to kill you, you found that they're crazy because they lost connection to their mother, their mother says its okay to kill her crazed children but when she begged for mercy, you kill her anyway because what could possibly go wrong.... and the list goes on... self-sabotaging, nonsensical murders, being an ass to everyone for no reason at all... maybe it was fun and juvenile but its hard to take a character like that seriously and its fairly inconsistent in the subsequent installments. GTA is great for this though. 

 

I like creating a complex Shepard who isn't too agreeable or naive but not too aggressive and reckless. She can be flirty and compassionate and ruthless and angry the next. There are some good renegade lines in the trilogy (saying "Go to hell" to Councilor Sparatus make me feel ridiculously happy) and there are a lot of good paragon lines/actions too. But PureParagon and PureRenegade is always too restrictive for me... 

[SwobyJ]

Shepard always has an optional element of needless brutality. Not hugely. He's not a monster. But he can be an unthinking and disrespectful grunt if you want him to be. And I think that's... at least generally.. by intent. Such a character path saves the galaxy merely by a supposed coincidence and really good physical training and talent.

[aoibhealfae]

I don't know if I play Renegade or "Renegon" though (not sure what that is). I prefer a high Renegade bar, and maybe 30% Paragon.

Renegon and Paragade is just varied degree of neutrality. Paragade simply meant mostly Paragon with several bars of Renegade. Renegon meant you being mostly Renegade with several bars of Paragon. Although Revka is technically neutral at this point (like 50% paragon 50% renegade) but the game behave as if she was a Renegade Shepard.. without actually having to kill Mordin, or let Samara die etc.

 

One of the things that bothered me about PureRenegade in ME1, a lot of bottom lines are dialogue-canceler (much like SWtOR with [refuse quest] option). In ME1, you can auto-reject romance, auto-reject dialogue, auto-kill everyone.. pfff.. no fun.

 

If you don't simply stick to a single branch narrative (like auto-upper branch for Paragon or auto-lower branch for Renegade), you'll get a lot of interesting combination of conversations that you might miss.

[aoibhealfae]

Once you get Intimidate options in ME1, it's a little better. Less dismissive/canceling effect. But I know what you mean. I'm not Renegade to the point where I skip content, like a Failshep or something. I still "play" the game in a complete way. And from time to time, reserve Paragon for big choices. I just don't like Paragon's personality with one-to-one interactions. It's kind of square and sentimental for my tastes.

Sometimes I just use the cheat console to get through the morality-gates. But most of the time I like to play around with the dialogue wheel and I'll get more interactive and balanced conversations and occasional arguments (like arguing with Tali about the Geth and Garrus about his "my way or the highway" attitude). I didn't like doing the straight-paragon path while romancing Kaidan so in my mix-dialogue narrative, Shepard is less breathless around him but more like a tease. There's a lot of sexual tension between these two in ME1 that I missed. 

[cap and gown]

 I didn't like doing the straight-paragon path while romancing Kaidan so in my mix-dialogue narrative, Shepard is less breathless around him but more like a tease. There's a lot of sexual tension between these two in ME1 that I missed. 

 

Kaidan: I've enjoyed serving under you.

Shepard: Kaidan, I don't think I've ever had the pleasure of you serving under me.

 

[aoibhealfae]

Kaidan: I've enjoyed serving under you.

Shepard: Kaidan, I don't think I've ever had the pleasure of you serving under me.

 

Shepard : I think you need more practice appreciating me. On the floor and give me twenty, lieutenant.

Kaidan : Finally, a reason to look forward to physical training.

 

 give her twenty she says. 'physical training' he says. hmmmmm

[Mineko]

Oh man, I have to play more with the dialogue with Kaidan in this playthrough. I love how in ME3 Shepard becomes much... cheekier? o her dialogues, both with Kaidan and James. It was fun to see.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

I recently discovered in Mass Effect 1 there's an extra little "cutscene" on Eden Prime. If you walk up to the railing behind the beacon, the camera pans out wide, overlooking the burnt ground left behind by Sovereign and your squad makes a couple comments. Despite having played through dozens of times, for some reason I never thought to go up to the railing before. On a whim I did so for the first time, and it was a nice little surprise.

actually i have discovered that one on my 30th playthrough xD

[geth47]

Last night I was doing some N7 missions and always taking Vega and Ashley with me. After one of them (I think it was the reactor) when I talked with steve and he mentioned he was worried about me, james vega interject and said he was there too and asked steve if he was worried about him too.

 

And no, shepard does not need to be romancing cortez for it to happen. I´m using a female shepard and dating traynor. 

 

I don´t know if this would happen if shepard had not helped steve solve his problems. 

 

And since this is a topic about things we just discover, I must say that I´ve recently discovered that I like the james vega character. Initially I hated him. The fact that he seemed to be taking one of the chairs from one more ME2 squad-mate also bothered me. 

 

But after some time, I kinda digested it. In a sense, he represents ME3 quite well. While I don´t like the tone the trilogy started to use (ME1 is still my favorite), inside the framework bioware decided to use things were not so bad. Same goes for citadel. I would prefer not to have comedy of that kind and quantity, but as far as comedies go, citadel is not a bad example. 

 

Also, it has occurred to me that over the course of the trilogy shepard can see a lot of characters committing suicide in the same faction. the girl from the colony background in the citadel docking bay, saren, the leader of the feros colony, corporal tombs, jacob´s father, dr. gevin archer, admiral raan, samara, the illusive man, 

 

I´m not even considering here people who can commit suicide off-camera like saren´s assistent. 

 

Am I missing anyone? 9 people over 3 games? There are also some individuals who try to die by sticking close to a detonator, like the mad man in leviathan, morinth´s sister/samara´s other daughter and dr. amanda in arrival. 

 

And I´m only considering here suicides that do not include sacrifice in the service of duty or acts of heroism. Tali´s death would also be categorized as suicide since there was no purpose for her death move by desperation, being only one less quarian in the galaxy. 

 

If this was real life, shepard would be a serious suspect of murder. It´s just  not common for a single individual to witness so many suicides in the same fashion, in different places, and for so many different reasons. 

 

 

Also, I discovered that if you decide to do the turian´s rescue mission after the citadel coup, admiral hacket will say after the mission (or is it the bomb mission?) something different, mentioning the attack on the citadel. 

 

 

I have also discovered the legion´s loyalty mission in me3 is the most boring of them all to me in me3. No enemies, no choice of weapons, no chance to use your powers and class differences. Pinnacle Station, Mako´s segments (some of them), Normandy crash site and this mission are the worst segments for me. 

 

If you have the special edition of me3 with the robotic doll in the cargo bay, and the 2 cerberus engineers get recruited they will at some point talk about the dog. Also, when they talk about the poker game the conversation can vary depending in ashley or the reporter being aboard.

 

In Dragon Age 1, if you play as an elf and pick the "experienced" tone of voice, the actor is Mark Meer, male Shepard.  

[cap and gown]

Last night I was doing some N7 missions and always taking Vega and Ashley with me. After one of them (I think it was the reactor) when I talked with steve and he mentioned he was worried about me, james vega interject and said he was there too and asked steve if he was worried about him too.

 

This is after the Monastery mission.

[Han Shot First]

Aw, the poor guy is actually crying here.

 

 

I don't remember that. Where/when is that?

[birefringent]

I don't remember that. Where/when is that?

Zaeed's loyalty mission, just as you decide which way to go.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

There are many people that never saw this text:

 

"In 2183, the heart of the galactic community suffered a devastating attack. The Citadel space station was invaded by a synthetic geth army attempting to open a portal for the Reapers: enormous machines that eradicate all organic civilization every 50,000 years. Commander Shepard led the defense, but the Citadel Council was lost.

Now, the new human-led Council attempts to quell rumors of the Reapers' return. Hoping to ease public concern, they've sent Commander Shepard and the starship Normandy to wipe out all remaining geth resistance.” 

 

It's from the Prologue in ME2, when you choose not to Import a Save from ME1.

 

If you do Import, it summarizes things and even tell you "One month after the Geth attack..."

 

**Also, another thing. Miranda's Voice in the Prologue is a bit more hastened and altered(Bit of Desperate, IMO) if she's talking about a FemShep. If you're using a MaleShep, she says thing more calmly and deepens.

 Also, When saying "They're sending him/her to fight Geth! Geth!" line, if you're a Male Shepard, the subtitle will skip itself, but if you're a FemShep, the subtitle will play as normal.