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[cap and gown]

It may have been pointed out already, but anyway...

 

In Citadel, when you visit the archives, Admiral Hackett´s narrative of Shepard´s background seems to have been made by another actor and not Lance.

 

Was that supposed to be Admiral Hackett? I figured it was just some random person.

 

I knew that about Mordin though... the new guy is good, but it's not quite as endearing to me.

 

If I had not read about the change in VA on this forum I would have never have known it was a different person. Sound the same to me.

[JasonShepard]

If I had not read about the change in VA on this forum I would have never have known it was a different person. Sound the same to me.

 

Likewise. I can tell the difference now that I know about it, but I didn't notice until it was pointed out.

[themikefest]

The one good thing I can say about the Therum mission in ME1 is that is can be done very quickly. I just finished it in 10 minutes. Not bad. 

[Jukaga]

The one good thing I can say about the Therum mission in ME1 is that is can be done very quickly. I just finished it in 10 minutes. Not bad. 

Including the vehicle segment? I'm impressed.

[themikefest]

Including the vehicle segment? I'm impressed.

Yes and thanks.

 

From the moment I had control of the Mako until I got back on the Normandy. I always did the mission fairly quickly, just never timed myself. This time I did. 

[voteDC]

As soon as I heard Mordin I knew something had changed but couldn't put my finger on what.

Then i heard him sing and it was then obvious that it was a different voice actor. He's good but doesn't quite have the pace of the original.

[themikefest]

The difference in voice doesn't bother me. The va did a good job

[Jukaga]

Since I usually sabotage the 'phage, I usually engineer it so Mordin dies 'holding the line' on the CB, then I can happily shoot Wiks in the back as he refuses to listen to reason. While I do know that Wiks can be talked down as well I choose to ignore it as it's outside of his character; that of a religious fanatic with some bizarre ideas about the universe, especially fractals. What was the point again? Ahh yes, this way I don't have to deal with the mirror universe anti-Mordin that is in ME3. (I don't mean the VA)

[voteDC]

The difference in voice doesn't bother me. The va did a good job

Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying William Salyers does a bad job. When just talking his Mordin is very very close to Michael Beattie's, slightly slower paced but I put that down to different work at the computer level. Kind of like how they added the reverb to Keythe Farley's voice for Thane.

As I said though it's when Mordin sings that it becomes clear that it isn't the same person doing the voice. It's excellent voice work but clearly not the same person.

[Seyd71]

Would you say that if it was any other squadmate I have killed?

 

This is what I have femshep do. Hahahahahaha

I'm fine with a depressing all death playthrough, I'm just saying that if you exclusively kill Tali then you're a monster

[geth47]

Was that supposed to be Admiral Hackett? I figured it was just some random person.

 

 

 

 

To be fair, Citadel never identifies him. The original Asari councilor in the holo-video however is clearly identified since we even have visual confirmation and she quotes verbatin ME1, but I think it was supposed to be Hackett indeed. You can see that the actor was trying to imitate him. And the very first scene of the trilogy has Udina, Anderson and Hackett considering proposing Shepard as a candidate for the human spectre program. 

 

 

As for Mordin, he indeed seemed a little more introspective, but I never would have guessed that it was thanks to a change in the cast. I though it was just his brain dealing with the big paradigm shift that the reaper invasion represented, finally being able to admit that he felt guilty and made a terrible mistake. I though it was a set-up by the writers from the start, to have him in this state in order to make his big explosion admitting the truth at the shroud a much more powerful scene. Not to mention that he himself admits that he´s been turning old. Had I never bothered to check the credits and learn more from the people involved and I probably never would have guessed the replacement. 

 

By the way, Thane also delivers his lines in a different way in ME3. It´s obvious to me that the writers and voice directors instructed the actor to take into account that the character´s health was deteriorating and his respiratory function is by then much weaker than what it was back in ME2. And yet, it´s the same actor. Since both Thane and Mordin are doomed to die soon (one way or the other in the case of Mordin, since he is old by his race´s standards) I simply though their actors received similar instructions on how to portrait more tired, restrained and contemplative versions of their ME2´s characters. A different actor? Never crossed my mind. 

[KrrKs]

Was that supposed to be Admiral Hackett? I figured it was just some random person.

 

To be fair, Citadel never identifies him. The original Asari councilor in the holo-video however is clearly identified since we even have visual confirmation and she quotes verbatin ME1, but I think it was supposed to be Hackett indeed. You can see that the actor was trying to imitate him. And the very first scene of the trilogy has Udina, Anderson and Hackett considering proposing Shepard as a candidate for the human spectre program.

 

I can only tell you that the german dubbing of that scene also sounds completely different from either ME3's or ME1's Hackett.

(Most of the german VAs were changed between ME1 and 2, some also in ME3)

[cap and gown]

I can only tell you that the german dubbing of that scene also sounds completely different from either ME3's or ME1's Hackett.

(Most of the german VAs were changed between ME1 and 2, some also in ME3)

 

Does the lip movement in German dubbing sync up well with the dialogue? I saw a polish version of Wrex in ME1 and was impressed that the lip movement was in sync with the dialogue. I would assume it is the same across languages. Something about the technology they use for lip animations makes lip syncing work well these days. (Unless you are playing Skyrim. )

[Han Shot First]

I like that line of dialogue Shepard has better than the other lines. I still don't see a reason for having Liara in the cabin when the intercom works just as well to inform Shepard the salarian councilor wants to talk

 

It is for cinematic reasons. Having two characters talking in person makes for a better scene than talking via intercom, particularly when the content of the conversation is supposed to have some emotional impact. In that conversation they are discussing people they've lost.

[KrrKs]

Does the lip movement in German dubbing sync up well with the dialogue? I saw a polish version of Wrex in ME1 and was impressed that the lip movement was in sync with the dialogue. I would assume it is the same across languages. Something about the technology they use for lip animations makes lip syncing work well these days. (Unless you are playing Skyrim. )

It does fit surprisingly well, actually. (On the other hand, I have major problems linking CGI lip movement to voice over, so it could also be that...     )

 

I'm not entirely sure on that part, but I believe the scene timing is actually always the same, independent of language.

[aoibhealfae]

TIL the Prothean beacon did reveal what the conduit was to Shepard on Eden Prime 

Spoiler

[themikefest]

It is for cinematic reasons. Having two characters talking in person makes for a better scene than talking via intercom,

Why? How hard is it to say the salarian councilor wants to talk over the intercom?
 

particularly when the content of the conversation is supposed to have some emotional impact.

Why? There was no reason for it. It amounted to nothing
 

In that conversation they are discussing people they've lost.

How can Liara talk about someone she never met? If she's rescued after Virmire, she knows nothing about Ashley/Kaidan. Again, I see no purpose for her to make any comment about them or to be in the cabin.

My femshep would like to ask her if it was quicker to come up to the cabin to tell me about the councilor wanting to talk vs using the intercom?

Why did it have to be Liara?

[KrrKs]

TIL the Prothean beacon did reveal what the conduit was to Shepard on Eden Prime 

*snip

When during the video is that happening?!

 

Yesterday I (re-)discovered that the ME1 closed helmet version for Asari/Liara is different from the human model. It has 2 outward bulges instead of the human -model's 'flat' connector to the visor segment.

[themikefest]

During the Citadel party in an ME3 default playthrough, Jacob, edi and Joker will be talking.

 

edi mentions that Cerberus did revive Shepard from a near-death state.

 

Joker will say when Jacob was in charge.

 

Jacob will talk about a way to propose to Brynn.

[aoibhealfae]

When during the video is that happening?!

 

It happened too fast so you might missed it but its there

Spoiler

[KrrKs]

Ah, found it! These are in the 'artifact_movie_#' bik files. Most of them aren't even a second long!

Very good catch, that one!

 

There is also a very short image of what seems to a Prothean colony/Ilos during their prime-time. But I couldn't get a clear image of it.