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#2351
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Just before starting Overlord dlc, the cargo bay was empty, but it shows the M-44 leaving the Normandy when arriving on the planet Aite. Agter finishing the dlc, the cargo bay is empty and when finding the M-44 Hammerhead during the Firewalker dlc, it will be seen in the cargo bay

 

Also, before I started the Overlord dlc, I fed my fish and when finished the dlc, the fish were still alive. I was surprised. I fed them and will get more as I play through the game



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Just before starting Overlord dlc, the cargo bay was empty, but it shows the M-44 leaving the Normandy when arriving on the planet Aite. Agter finishing the dlc, the cargo bay is empty and when finding the M-44 Hammerhead during the Firewalker dlc, it will be seen in the cargo bay

 

Also, before I started the Overlord dlc, I fed my fish and when finished the dlc, the fish were still alive. I was surprised. I fed them and will get more as I play through the game

 

Yah, since FireWalker pack was a free DLC and came out before Overlord and gave you the M-44 Hammerhead, Bioware just figured everyone downloaded it AND did the Firewalker Mission (at least the first one) before Overlord. Also, not empty. It has the Shuttle there :P :D

 

Aand, yes, it's surprising the fish is still alive, maybe it was treated as a Single Mission, despite the Area Transitions that always gave the Mission Complete Screen



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Can you leave Overlord once you start? It would be kind of mean to force players to play through all 4 missions of Overlord, then kill their fish.



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Yah, since FireWalker pack was a free DLC and came out before Overlord and gave you the M-44 Hammerhead, Bioware just figured everyone downloaded it AND did the Firewalker Mission (at least the first one) before Overlord. Also, not empty. It has the Shuttle there :P :D

 

Kind of  an oversight on their part I would say since people who arrived later missed out on the tutorial for using the Hammerhead if they did Overlord first. I remember one poster who had severe problems with the Hammerhead on the Overlord mission because he hadn't done Firewalker yet.



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Nope. That was the one thing I hated most about Overlord. Once you start it, you have to finish it ALL before you're free to do anything else. I appreciate it being a long mission since it was paid-DLC and I like feeling like I got my money's worth but still the fact that you're forced into it for so long usually means I save it for near-last. I'm not sure if it kills your fish, though. I heard someone on the forum say that it kills your fish because its broken into segments but doesn't actually ever let you leave (Thus progressing 'time' and making fish starve). Though I've also heard others say it has no effect. I don't buy the fish until the last mission so I couldn't say one way or another.



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Nope. That was the one thing I hated most about Overlord. Once you start it, you have to finish it ALL before you're free to do anything else. I appreciate it being a long mission since it was paid-DLC and I like feeling like I got my money's worth but still the fact that you're forced into it for so long usually means I save it for near-last. I'm not sure if it kills your fish, though. I heard someone on the forum say that it kills your fish because its broken into segments but doesn't actually ever let you leave (Thus progressing 'time' and making fish starve). Though I've also heard others say it has no effect. I don't buy the fish until the last mission so I couldn't say one way or another.

Your fish live. Read my above post



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Can you leave Overlord once you start? It would be kind of mean to force players to play through all 4 missions of Overlord, then kill their fish.

 

AFAIK, Overlord counts as one mission. For instance, if you do it after the Reaper IFF mission it seems to only count as one mission.



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Nope. That was the one thing I hated most about Overlord. Once you start it, you have to finish it ALL before you're free to do anything else. I appreciate it being a long mission since it was paid-DLC and I like feeling like I got my money's worth but still the fact that you're forced into it for so long usually means I save it for near-last. I'm not sure if it kills your fish, though. I heard someone on the forum say that it kills your fish because its broken into segments but doesn't actually ever let you leave (Thus progressing 'time' and making fish starve). Though I've also heard others say it has no effect. I don't buy the fish until the last mission so I couldn't say one way or another.

 

Did you ever do Lair of the Shadow Broker? Talk about a long mission! Overlord = 1.5 hours, LotSB = 2.25 hours.



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Overlord didn't seem like a long mission to me, though... not saying LotSB did, it's not a either/or situation here  :D ... just saying that apart from the silly arcadiness of the Hammerhead sequences, Overlord had some pretty good pacing, and the fights were fun. I enjoyed the satellite dish part a lot, actually. 



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Your fish live. Read my above post

 

I did read your post. Which is why I said in the post you're quoting that "I've also heard others say it has no effect". That doesn't subtract from the fact that I've heard others say it kills your fish, though. Because I have heard those claims made. More than once, actually - whereas, from memory, you're the first I've heard to say it isn't the case. I also mentioned that I don't know myself since I never had fish at that point. The only reason I don't assume it kills your fish based on the few times I've heard it mentioned is because you've said it doesn't. So clearly theres conflicting information out there. I never said one was right or one was wrong, merely pointing out that theres two claims.

 

 

Did you ever do Lair of the Shadow Broker? Talk about a long mission! Overlord = 1.5 hours, LotSB = 2.25 hours.

 

Indeed. I happily admit that I've played all DLC for the series EXCEPT for the Mass Effect dlc that has to do with VR training or something. I don't remember the name of it. Other than that, all DLC. Even the costumes that I never use. Because I clearly have a problem.

 

I never said nor did I mean to imply, either, that Overlord was the longest. Just incase I gave that impression. LotSB is indeed quite long. Though personally Overlord still FELT longer, even though objectively it isn't. Perhaps because I was more enamored with the plot with LotSB and was kept entertained throughout whereas with Overlord a lot of the time was spent hopping that ship up and down to avoid getting hit my missiles. I'm a completionist who likes to finish everything so I have to get those cerberus data caches. Which means playing a lot of whack-a-mole with turrents for what feels like over a bloody hour. Factor that into the above-normal difficulty settings and for me it can feel like quite a long mission - even if some of its length feels artificial due to the hammerhead segments.



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The first and last five minutes are all I like of Overlord. The rest of the DLC just feels like padding, to make it reach some arbitrary length limit.

I love Lair of the Shadow Broker as Liara is one of my favourite characters but boy do I hate it on the Shadow Broker's ship. The combat on the hull just goes on and on, when I start thinking "oh for ****'s sake, get on with it" my patience is nearing its end.



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Not a big fan of Overlord either.



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AFAIK, Overlord counts as one mission. For instance, if you do it after the Reaper IFF mission it seems to only count as one mission.

Are you sure?

I know that Overload counts as several missions toward the Crew abduction/dead timer, which can lead to some pretty nasty surprises.

 

I once did Overload directly after the dead Reaper and got the Abduction directly afterwards (as expected). Then did the suicide mission directly afterwards, and my Crew was dead (WTF).



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Are you sure?
I know that Overload counts as several missions toward the Crew abduction/dead timer, which can lead to some pretty nasty surprises.
 
I once did Overload directly after the dead Reaper and got the Abduction directly afterwards (as expected). Then did the suicide mission directly afterwards, and my Crew was dead (WTF).


Dead certain it's not one mission. Your fish die.


Hilarious typo btw, it's Overlord ;)

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As I posted at the top of the page, I fed my fish just before starting Overlord and when finished, the fish were still alive. I did this yesterday when playing the dlc.



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Are you sure?

I know that Overload counts as several missions toward the Crew abduction/dead timer, which can lead to some pretty nasty surprises.

 

I once did Overload directly after the dead Reaper and got the Abduction directly afterwards (as expected). Then did the suicide mission directly afterwards, and my Crew was dead (WTF).

 

I have video evidence that it does not impact the crew abduction! :) Episodes 100-113 are the Reaper IFF, through Thane's LM, Overlord, and the SM crew retrieval. They all made it. I was particularly interested this time because I wanted to do a NG+ in ME3 and I wanted that Paddle Fish for the nice power boost.



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As I posted at the top of the page, I fed my fish just before starting Overlord and when finished, the fish were still alive. I did this yesterday when playing the dlc.


I might have been confused with LotSB... I know for a fact one of them kills your fish. I just don't remember which :D

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Overlord didn't seem like a long mission to me, though... not saying LotSB did, it's not a either/or situation here  :D ... just saying that apart from the silly arcadiness of the Hammerhead sequences, Overlord had some pretty good pacing, and the fights were fun. I enjoyed the satellite dish part a lot, actually. 

 

Yeah, if you enjoy, you won't even see time passes by... For me, Overlord was like, a 25 - 30 minute mission for me

 

Also, On Topic: I just discovered that Pull+Warp counts toward the Tactician Achievement... I only thought it was Pull+Throw. And I always waited for the Half 2 of the Game so that I could unlock that Achievement; lol


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Hilarious typo btw, it's Overlord ;)

Damn muscle memory :lol:

 

I have video evidence that it does not impact the crew abduction! :) Episodes 100-113 are the Reaper IFF, through Thane's LM, Overlord, and the SM crew retrieval. They all made it. I was particularly interested this time because I wanted to do a NG+ in ME3 and I wanted that Paddle Fish for the nice power boost.

This is strange...

Could there be a difference in counter-behaviour between xbox and PC?

 

On topic:

One of the ME3 multiplayer loading screens shows (presumely) Shepards private terminal on Deck1. Ontop of some papers to the left is a cerberus coffin, as can be seen in Overlord and after the SM.

 

Edit:

Found it:

Spoiler


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Just finished playing the broker dlc and my fish are alive. As with the Overlord dlc, I fed the fish before starting the dlc and were alive when I returned.


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The prison ship on Jack's recruit mission in ME2 houses thousands of the most dangerous criminals in the galaxy. The only prisoners we see on the whole mission are humans. Humans are the baddest BMF's in space!

 

Okay, I know, I know: Purgatory was probably segregated by species.  <_<



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Action! No Liara!

 

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Role playing! Some Liara!

 

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Story! Lot's of Liara!

 

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If Kasumi's loyalty mission is completed before recruiting Archangel, a party guest will have dialogue mentioning him and if the loyalty mission is done after recruiting Garrus, the party guest will have a different line of dialogue



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Just finished playing the broker dlc and my fish are alive. As with the Overlord dlc, I fed the fish before starting the dlc and were alive when I returned.

Don't you need Kelly anyway to get them in ME3?



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Don't you need Kelly anyway to get them in ME3?

Not with gibbed  :D  :whistle: