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[The Baconer]

I really like the use of actual spells from the games.

 

I picked up on Heroic Aura, Death Syphon, Anti-Magic Burst, Crushing Prison, and maybe a more badass version of Cone of Cold.

[MisterJB]

Plus, Tempest, Stonefist, Fireball.

[Iakus]

I really like the use of actual spells from the games.

 

I picked up on Heroic Aura, Death Syphon, Anti-Magic Burst, Crushing Prison, and maybe a more badass version of Cone of Cold.

 

Also Fiery Weapons, some sort of healing magic, and possibly rock armor

[Hellion Rex]

I really like the use of actual spells from the games.

 

I picked up on Heroic Aura, Death Syphon, Anti-Magic Burst, Crushing Prison, and maybe a more badass version of Cone of Cold.

Plus, I REALLY loved how they depicted Lienne's hexes.

[Browneye_Vamp84]

Just finished the book. Felassan was by far my favorite character.. So......who was there with him in his last moments?

[GVulture]

Finished!

So sad that Felassan died. I loved his character. Very... Kreia. For the lack of a better word.

 

How many think he wasn't Dalish at all?

 

Also, I don't think the entity that killed him was a demon or Fade Spirit and if it was Fen'Harel... I would imagine that the elven god would be more powerful than both and wouldn't NEED the Network. My money is someone much less powerful and a bit more mundane. I actually kinda like that the idea that it was Flemeth. If only because if the eluvian network is how the Veil goes down, it only makes sense that the person who was stirring up chaos in Kirkwall (to make use of that creeptastic blood magic ritual chamber beneath the city) would be the same person.

 

If Flemeth wants to bring the Veil down to bring back Sandal's "him" uses Kirkwall chaos for the power and the eluvian network is the lever to crack it open.

 

I really liked the Gaspard was so subtle. I found myself really liking him by the end of the book, not enough to let him depose Celene... but I liked him none the less. He was a bit ME2 TIM in some aspects.

[Ihatebadgames]

Not Dalish. But what he was I don't know. As far as who killed him, how do you kill a dreamer in the fade?

[MisterJB]

The only thing we know about Felassan's boss is that it wants the Eluvians. Therefore, it either is someone we don't know yet; someone we are aware of but are not aware that he or she knows about the Eluvians or those we do know are aware of the Eluvians.

That is not such a long list: Flemeth, Morrigan, Merril or...the Warden.

Personally, I'm hoping it's either Morrigan or a Warden that traveled with her through the Eluvian; even the dwarven Warden was sent to the Fade a couple of times.

[Hellion Rex]

The only thing we know about Felassan's boss is that it wants the Eluvians. Therefore, it either is someone we don't know yet; someone we are aware of but are not aware that he or she knows about the Eluvians or those we do know are aware of the Eluvians.

That is not such a long list: Flemeth, Morrigan, Merril or...the Warden.

Personally, I'm hoping it's either Morrigan or a Warden that traveled with her through the Eluvian; even the dwarven Warden was sent to the Fade a couple of times.

Why a Warden? And what happens to the Wardens who made the Ultimate Sacrifice?

[Shadow Fox]

Why a Warden? And what happens to the Wardens who made the Ultimate Sacrifice?

Or stabbed Morrigan?*not that I did... *

[MisterJB]

Why a Warden? And what happens to the Wardens who made the Ultimate Sacrifice?

For no other reason that I'd like to see my Warden along with Morrigan scheaming; getting their hands on the Eluvians sounds important enough that I wouldn't mind if that was their goal.

As for those Wardens who didn't step through the Eluvian, it was Morrigan. I am assuming, of course, that this will be revealed in DAI where they can take saved games into account.

[Hellion Rex]

Or stabbed Morrigan?*not that I did... *

They have circles of hell for people like you.

[Shadow Fox]

They have circles of hell for people like you.

What?Someone had to ask.

[DontWakeTheBear]

As far as who killed him, how do you kill a dreamer in the fade?

The same way you kill anything in the fade: with sword or spell. The thing I'm interested in is according to DA2 if you kill a Dreamer in the Fade it'll make them Tranquil, more or less, so would that imply that he's still alive only Tranquil?

[MisterJB]

If you kill a mage's form in the Fade, regardless if he's a Dreamer or not, then you make that mage a Tranquil.

However, Dreamers are the only mages capable of transporting their bodies to the Fade at will. Since the book specifically mentions Felassan's "last thought", I assume he brough his whole self to the Fade where he was killed by his master and thus died a permanent death.

[MisterJB]

Celene just remarked how she would not trust magic so easily once she returned to her throne.

It's probably just a throw away line but she is gaining the support of my Inquisitor.

[wsowen02]

Morrigan doesn't seem the type to trust a lackey to do her work for her.  She would want to handle it herself.

[Kaibe]

I thought the name of this was "totally stripperific" for a moment.

[lil yonce]

I've read too more chapters now, 9 and 10, since my last post, and I think the book has slowed down a little a bit. Chapters 4-7 were really exciting, my favorite so far, 8 was pretty good too, and these chapters, though one has quite a bit of action, while reading them, I just kind of felt like I was waiting for something important to happen. They were both interesting though, focused a lot on characterization, and I think the reader's opinion of the main characters can really begin to take shape from the info provided.

 

1. My first analysis, Briala and Celene are both hypocrites. Patrick Weekes did a good job of setting them up for this too, really well done on that front. Briala says early on in the book that she cares most about deaths that she could prevent and doesn't, but with her hypocritical self, she said nothing when she suspected Celene and her forces were walking straight into an ambush. Her caring pretty much extends to the elves and that's it in the context of situations presented in the book.

 

2. By the same token, Celene says she will do whatever it takes, burn whatever village to keep her throne and protect the Empire, and won't feel too bad about it, but that's pretty much only when it comes to the elves, because when the crew rolls up on a butchered human village a page later, suffering because of her power struggle, she's contrite, shaken, and all, "I'm going to end Gaspard!"

 

3. Ser Michel is annoying me with his "knife-ear" this, and elven racial slur that. Dude, you're elf-blooded, don't be like this. Stop trying so hard to make up for that fact that you're not a real noble and not fully human. Felassan told him about himself in chapter 10, and thank goodness because someone needed to.

 

4. Gaspard is shown to be an honorable guy when spotlighted, not a bully like Lambert from Asunder, though he's still very clearly the ambitious usurper. He could pretty much walk into Val Royeaux and claim the throne, put Celene on the defensive in exile, but he won't do it because without Celene dead or officially surrendered, its not honorable. He also duels her personal scout, the one soldier she didn't execute from Chapter 8, and gives the man an honorable death. Remache thinks its stupid, but Gaspard really respects the Chevalier's code, it seems.

 

For most of Chapter 10, the foursome fights off a bunch of slyvans before being rescued by a Dalish clan (side note: the veil when being ripped actually sounds like cloth tearing and that's very interesting. The veil, more than juast a metaphor then?), and though she was injured in the end, I'm surprised at how well Celene fights in these scenes. I just wonder how good Anora is with a pair of daggers now.

 

Briala and Celene seem to be reconnecting, but I didn't really like what Celene had to say about Halamshiral. First, she said she did it to save Briala's life (Briala didn't like that, and I didn't either), and then she compared crushing the elven rebellion to handling a murderous merchant guild or a rogue noble, a necessity for the good of the Empire and her rule, that there was no other way, and its just not the same to me, and worse, Briala was buying into Celene's latter justification.

 

Oh, yeah, and Ser Michel cries over his dead warhorse. He hasn't cried over anything else, the burning of Halamshiral, the loss of comrades in arms, nothing, but he cries for his horse. I felt bad for the horse too, but I wish Ser Michel would care about something not tied to him being a chevalier, that would be nice. His smartass comment about the Dalish at the end of the chapter was pretty funny, though. Condescending as hell coming from him, but I think this is the first time he's made a funny in the whole book. "At long last, Briala, you've found you're people." lol. The Dalish in this clan are definitely big time jerks.

[omnitremere]

^{Just finished the book.  By far my favorite DA book so far.  Great job.  I assume all the book related questions have been answered at this point but if there are any left I'd be happy to answer them.  Personally I'm hoping that we can still somehow meet the Dreamer Elf in the fade and that Michel will be a companion in DAI.  And I'm really looking forward to kicking Imshael's ass.  I hope the boss at the end of the book is actually the Dread Wolf and he's causing the veil tears.  Makes things much more interesting than going up against Flemeth again in my opinion.  Anyway GREAT job guys and I really enjoyed the read.  Can't wait until the Fall.}  

[The Ascendant]

Would it have been so horrible for Celene to simply marry Gaspard? I mean I know they don't like each other but when has that ever stopped a marriage? But seriously, why not? After all keep your friends close and your enemies closer. If you are worried about the possible incest, don't worry cousins married each other all the time in medieval times and especially in royal families. Don't forget Queen Victoria married her cousin Prince Albert and they had plenty of fine healthy children, whose descendants are still alive today.

Wouldn't a marriage solve the issue of succession as well? I don't know of any other of Celene's relations aside from Gaspard. If she suddenly died what then? The country would have been torn apart by Civil War sooner or later. She's in her later 30's and unmarried with no children. The most notable comparison I can make is Queen Elizabeth I. She was a great monarch, but the 'no children' and 'married to England' bit only resulted in the death of the Tudor dynasty her father worked so hard to secure.

P.S. I always picture Celene as a younger beautiful Olenna Tyrell and Gaspard as an equally badass but younger Tywin Lannister. How awesome would it be if the two of them got together! Think of the children!   

[Augustei]

Would it have been so horrible for Celene to simply marry Gaspard? I mean I know they don't like each other but when has that ever stopped a marriage? But seriously, why not? After all keep your friends close and your enemies closer. If you are worried about the possible incest, don't worry cousins married each other all the time in medieval times and especially in royal families. Don't forget Queen Victoria married her cousin Prince Albert and they had plenty of fine healthy children, whose descendants are still alive today.

Wouldn't a marriage solve the issue of succession as well? I don't know of any other of Celene's relations aside from Gaspard. If she suddenly died what then? The country would have been torn apart by Civil War sooner or later. She's in her later 30's and unmarried with no children. The most notable comparison I can make is Queen Elizabeth I. She was a great monarch, but the 'no children' and 'married to England' bit only resulted in the death of the Tudor dynasty her father worked so hard to secure.

P.S. I always picture Celene as a younger beautiful Olenna Tyrell and Gaspard as an equally badass but younger Tywin Lannister. How awesome would it be if the two of them got together! Think of the children!   

Who is the ruling Monarch in the situation, who is giving the orders? What happens if they give conflicting orders or dont agree with each other, they both already disagree on how The Empire should be run so its likely this will continue if they marry. Having them marry each other doesn't really solve the problem.. They will just fight for power until one of them manages to kill the other

[The Ascendant]

Obviously they will challenge each other in how to rule the country and deal with the various issues, but a united Orlais with two powerful and equally potent rulers would be able to deal with most problems. Don't forget if you marry Alistair to Anora and if he is 'hardened' they both complement each other nicely, Alistair the popular king and hero of the Blight aided by Anora's experience and popularity.

I don't expect them to get along all the time(if at all) but so long as they can tolerate each other long enough to produce an heir, Orlais will have a bright future ahead of it.

Not to mention they can keep each other in line. Gaspard can ensure Celene doesn't embarrass or disregard the conservative imperialists and Celene can ensure that Gaspard focuses his military attention elsewhere.

P.S. Why the big fuss over Ferelden any way? Most Orleasians I met in the game did nothing but complain about the country. Is it a matter of revenge for the rebellion? Opportunism? Or is Fereldan strategically important? I think it is good farmland, but after the Blight the condition of said farmland is questionable.     

[Augustei]

Ferelden is an important source of wealth due to the trade it can bring from the cities and towns along the waking sea, thats why the Orlesians built Amaranthine after they conquered it.

As to the Monarchy, Your to optimistic about the consequences of the marriage imo. There is already bad blood between Celene and Gaspard what with the killing of various relatives, but more Importantly they both completely disagree about the direction the Empire should take it wont be complementing each other at all, not to mention they are both ambitious. it will be more like the pessimistic outcome of the Warden and Anora marraige slide where they could just end up fighting each other for power (almost certain between Gaspard and Celene) She cant ensure he focus's his millitary attention elsewhere because he believes the way foward is to declare war on and conquer Ferelden. Alistair was inexperienced and willing to learn from Anora and defer to her judgement. Gaspard and Celene are both masters of the game and think themselves capable of ruling the nation in their own right

[Augustei]

Btw whats up with Gaspard marrying his cousin being acceptable but Florian and Meghren being lovers being scandalous because they are cousins being unnaceptable? Orlais needs to make up its mind about how it feels about incestuous relationships lol