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How much of the Templar/Mage conflict do you want in DA:I?


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#126
SgtElias

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Would you like it to be a large focus?

 

Yes.

 

It's been my favorite part of the Dragon Age story so far. I mean, it's cool that it won't be the main point of the story in Inquisition. But I, personally, would like to see it be as a large a part as possible.



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DKJaigen

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You might try brining in arguments that don't have more holes in them than swiss cheese, then people might start taking you more seriously.

You talk of self delusions? Look in the mirror.

 

Whats the point you substitute lore with your own head cannon.



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DKJaigen

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The mages were not THE deciding factor in the Qunari Wars. They were the equalizers. They made the playing field fair. They were A deciding factor that made sure the Qunari didn't steamroll the rest of Thedas sure, but they weren't the only factor in the math.

 

And here we go again. lets butcher the lore into small pieces that only suit your arguments. Their are 2 arguments given for driving the qunuari back : 1 magic 2 larger numbers. By default magic had a very major contribution to the conflict and if i was fair i could split it 50/50 in contribution. but since history has proven that a civilisation with a technological advantage can easily conquer another its clear magic was a very major factor



#129
Lotion Soronarr

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Whats the point you substitute lore with your own head cannon.

 

You are confusing me with yourself.

If anyone is headcannoning, it's you.

 

 

WOT makes it clear that the forces of TheDas halted the quanari advance to a sandstill BEOFRE the Circles fully joined the fight.

Also, it's the raids on their supply lines that crippled the qunari. Logistics rules war more than anything else.

 

Magic was useful, there's no denying that. And its' contribution was great. But to say TheDas would loose without mages is unsupported fantasy.

 

You are pulling numbers out of your a**  (like hat 50/50 contribution) without anything backing them up.



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Zazzerka

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What's the story behind "TheDas?"



#131
Herr Uhl

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What's the story behind "TheDas?"

Thedas is from when people called it "the Dragon Age setting". Not sure why he only capitalizes the D though.



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I honestly hope it takes a backseat this time.

 

Me too, it's feeling a little stale for me at the moment. Though I suppose it'll be around for a long time to come in the DA universe. I'd like to see it at least revamped somehow. 



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DKJaigen

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You are confusing me with yourself.

If anyone is headcannoning, it's you.

 

 

WOT makes it clear that the forces of TheDas halted the quanari advance to a sandstill BEOFRE the Circles fully joined the fight.

Also, it's the raids on their supply lines that crippled the qunari. Logistics rules war more than anything else.

 

Magic was useful, there's no denying that. And its' contribution was great. But to say TheDas would loose without mages is unsupported fantasy.

 

You are pulling numbers out of your a**  (like hat 50/50 contribution) without anything backing them up.

 

just give me the number of the pages because i cannot be botherd to look it



#134
EmperorSahlertz

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And here we go again. lets butcher the lore into small pieces that only suit your arguments. Their are 2 arguments given for driving the qunuari back : 1 magic 2 larger numbers. By default magic had a very major contribution to the conflict and if i was fair i could split it 50/50 in contribution. but since history has proven that a civilisation with a technological advantage can easily conquer another its clear magic was a very major factor

Which is what I said. Magic was A factor (one of multiple) and not THE factor (singular). But I guess that went over your head.


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Which is what I said. Magic was A factor (one of multiple) and not THE factor (singular). But I guess that went over your head.

 

Emperor and I don't always agree, but this, according to all the lore, is true.

 

Magic wasn't the deciding factor, but it was the equalizing one, and the one that turned the tide, but wasn't the only factor. There were many others. Like it was the first time all the nations of Thedas worked together, so they had numerical advantages, differing combat specialties and so on. 

 

Also, wasn't Tevinter, the land of magic is master, on of the first nations hit? They would've used magic from the get-go, even if they never lost their capital city of Minrathous, they have a strong stake in Seheron. 



#136
LobselVith8

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I enjoy the Mage/Templar conflict and don't see it as being as black and white as people think. I find myself understanding both sides of the argument and it's really an interesting moral dilemma. In general, I suppose I'm more pro-mage but I'm not exactly anti-circle either? I'd also like to hear more about lyrium addiction, if possible.

 

Being pro-mage doesn't necessarily mean you disagree with the concept of the Circle of Magi, since I think almost everyone agrees that mages need to be properly instructed on the use of their powers, but rather with the Chantry of Andraste and the Order of Templars having absolute control over the mages, to the point where abuses can transpire because of the unfettered authority that's wielded over the mages by "divine right".



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right now tevinter is at a standstill with the qunari and have barely managed that....  the qunari dont take tevinter seriously and havent shown this in their attempts at seheron, they are more interested in invading the mainland again...  sten hints at this in origins and the arishok all but starts it in da2....   Magic is just the icing on the cake, without the cake its not much at all....  (its still delicious though)