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[Darth Spike]

Ok guys bear with me if my train of thought is a little crazy (its not intentional). I was thinking of plot pints for my Dragon age fanfic when I came up with this though. What if Flemeth is an old god?

 

 

Ok before you guys go crazy let me explain. My evidence is not solid but here it is: Flemeth is the most powerful mage ever seen in thedas for multiple reasons. She's the only one who has ever been able to turn into a Dragon. She knows more about what has been happening over the ages then anyone else. And she seems to be somewhat immortal considering she hasn't died of old age yet.

 

 

Morrigan said she wants to preform an 'old ritual' with you to save your life. Meaning it has been done at least once before. What if Flemeth is the end result of the first 'dark promise'? She seems to be immune to the darkspawn taint for some reason. (Seen in DA2 when she bites one while in dragon form.)

 

 

Flemeth could have been planning the whole thing because she wanted someone like her. Another person with the soul of an old god. For another thing she is able to defy death in ways that seem impossible to anyone else. (The locket she gives you in DA2.)

 

 

If my reasoning is correct then the child so many of us created with Morrigan was what Flemeth wanted from the beginning and also explains why she saves your life at the beginning of DAO.

 

 

 

 

 

So now that I said my theory, what do you guys think? Am I onto something here or am I just seeing connections where there are none?

[Douxdel]

Call me crazy, but I've seen this theory post somewhere on here before...as for if you are onto something -shrugs-  maybe?  People have even suggested she could be Andraste.  People have suggested she is even Fen'Harel  (the elven trickster god that locked all the other gods away if I am remembering my dalish elven lore correctly)...all of it and none of it could be true...

 

I personally think it would be hilarious if she was actually Andraste...but I doubt it...

[Mike3207]

Mackilian's fanfic suggests she is the elven goddess Valoel, and that the seven elder gods are her children. I can't remember offhand if it was the Maker or Fen'harel who tricked them into being imprisoned. I'd say that makes her at least a elder god, maybe something more.

[Cobra's_back]

I think you are on to something. The old gods were dragons. She is one of the most interesting characters in DA.

[Douxdel]

This is my current favorite Flemeth theory...

 

http://dragonage.wik...nd_the_Old_Gods

 

The seven Old Gods, Flemeth being one of them, were the original Magisters from the Tevinter Imperium that tried to enter the Golden City.  That's the jist of it - but be warned - the article is looong... x.x  Just makes me want to agree with ghostbuster101 -- Flemeth is amazing. ^-^

[Cobra's_back]

BIG SPOILER ALERT DON"T READ IF YOU WERE PLANNING ON READING THE COMICS

 

I read "The Silent Grove" just to see what i could find out about her. Flemeth in the "Stolen Throne" saved Marc but expected a favor. In "The Silent Grove" we find out she made him promise to wake up the sleeping dragons. These dragons were smart and their blood was very powerful. Marc had dragon blood in him so does Alistair. In  "Until We Sleep" Calenhad was a dog-handler who wanted to be powerful. He went to a witch and traded a secret. The witch sent him to a cave where one of the ancient dragons slept and he drank its blood. That is how he became powerful. Flemeth has no love for those who hunt the dragons. She is trying to bring them back.

[Douxdel]

Argh...all of this is making me want to read the books and comics more and more!! T-T  -heads off to amazon.com to buy them all- XD

[Cobra's_back]

What would be cool is if a dragon slaying/non Reaver/non dragon whatever Cousland took the throne, and how that ultimately impacts story and her attitude.

 

She says when you first meet her in the Wilds that so much about us (the Warden) is unknown. Our existence is outside her plans or perception. We're kind of a wildcard.

 

I don't have many expectations for Cousland having much impact, but it'd be nice.

 

edit: Eh, but then all Wardens drink archdemon blood. Nevermind. Damn Warden bastards.

 

I don't know if I want to kill her or make her an ally. Humans almost made dragons extinct. I really don't know if dragons are the enemy. The Archdemon yes but he was corrupted.

[Douxdel]

I don't know if I want to kill her or make her an ally. Humans almost made dragons extinct. I really don't know if dragons are the enemy. The Archdemon yes but he was corrupted.

 

That's true...the only dragon we know (that really wants to talk) is Flemeth and she saves your PC both in DA and in DA2 and granted you can say she is manipulating you and the darkspawn is the greater threat but... -shugs-  That makes her my ally (at least for now) in my book.  The other dragon (the High Dragon a.k.a. "Andraste Reborn") wants nothing to do with you until you hit that damn gong.

 

I know!  I DA3 Toothless comes along and we become friends!  Am I right?  Lol, Maker I sure as hell hope not...that would be a cop out...

[Jordan]

Sweet baby Jesus, that's the craziest thing I ever did heard.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

It's not a new theory, by a long shot. Old god, actual dragon, creator, forgotten one, etc etc...

 

I haven't heard one that convinces me to support it yet. Part of me hopes she's just a highly gifted possessed mage instead of a magical unicorn.

[Corker]

The only one I'm fond of at all is the 'dragon' theory, only because there's a Morrigan/Oghren dialogue that hints at the idea. (The one where he suggests that Morrigan could be an animal, like a nug, in human form.)  But then, if she were herself a dragon, why would she need Maric's dragon blood? 

 

There's also the bit with there evidently being a Highever woman named Flemeth who lived in the Tower Age.  It would be very narratively strange if DAO Flemeth didn't relate to that woman in some way, even if they aren't the same person.  (Morrigan tells us that she isn't sure if they are, and it may be telling that that uncertainty was important enough to write dialogue to express.)

[caradoc2000]

I completely agree - about it being a crazy theory.

[Cobra's_back]

I'm hoping David writes another book. This time give me more Flemeth. I need details. I also think the Conobar and Cousland thing need more exploring. 

[BronzTrooper]

That's interesting.  It also works with my theory that Flemeth might be responsible for the Veil being torn in DA:I... well, either that, or she has a hand in it.  Hmm...

[Darth Spike]

Well Gamer072196 I only have to add that if you think that then the opposite is also true. What if Flemeth is trying to help stop the veil from fully tearing or whatever else it causes. As creepy as that sounds if she's trying to help that makes her a 'dark hero'.

 

That and what if the 7 old gods weren't evil at all. what if they are trying to stop the veil from tearing but were imprisoned by the ones that were tearing it. That could be why the darkspawn search for them relentlessly, they're trying to find and corrupt the ones that could stop their plans. The only ones that have the power to put an end to them for good. 

[gottaloveme]

I haven't read the books or comics - but - in the legend she calls a spirit which kills Conobar but then something else takes her. Has anyone tried to kill her in 'human' form? Maybe she can't die unless you kill her 'essence or life force' unless she's in human form? Maybe not so crazy...

[BronzTrooper]

Flemeth herself is immortal.  Her current body isn't.  I suppose that adds more merit to the OP's theory on Flemeth, considering how an archdemon's soul gets passed on to the nearest darkspawn when its body dies.  Considering how Flemeth hasn't been tainted, she can't just jump into another body.  She needs to have a host body to possess.

[Darth Spike]

The only problem with that is in Dragon age 2. Even if you kill Flemeth in DA 1 she comes back in DA 2 thanks to the locket she gives Hawke. Unless the locket has some blood or a piece of her soul bonded to it. (She basically does a Voldemort and his Horcrux from Harry Potter).