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[kuronue bloodlust]

OK I want to see the CEP return they were a quick good way to make and elaborate a server.

• First off CEP1 someone needs to make a straight complete download of the CEP1 to latest version 
• Secondly CEP 2 needs an adult extension that has the EErhum Nude succubus in it and spare it form having the overly ADULT features in the main CEP2 we allso need a fix badly coded items and errors.

Some other projects the New CEP can work on

• Online server list fix; we have a registry of servers lets use it lets try and get a active registry fix an exe a player can run that will be activate and change update multiplayer functions on the game.
• complete the content add in for CEP2 (or just write it off as complete after the fix and adult content separation last I recall there was a nudeie in it) and make it compatible with CEP1
• make a CEP2 and CEP 1 2 starter moduels
• start work on an official CEP3

before we go any further into the return of the CEP we need to preserve what made this game wonderful so we will need open uber /legit PVP and open roleplay servers with no item restrictions outside the normal lets clarify the classifications and see if we can get this game running on all fours again.

[Zwerkules]

Please have a look at this thread:

http://forum.bioware...menting-mutiny/

 

If you plan on adding new stuff to the CEP, you should talk to The Amethyst Dragon.

 

This game is running and some scripters, coders and content creators are already way ahead of you. I suggest you message them if you want to improve the CEP.

[The Amethyst Dragon]

First off CEP1 someone needs to make a straight complete download of the CEP1 to latest version

I hear that "kuronue" person is free.

It would mainly entail downloading each 1.x version, extracting each haks contents into their own folders, then downloading the following versions and extracting to the same folders so that newer versions of models and such overwrite newer versions.  When done, put the contents back into haks (with the same names to stay compatible with servers/modules using them), and getting the updated package uploaded to the new Vault (or a link to them sent to me so that I can get them to the CEP entry on the new Vault.

I don't personally use earlier versions of CEP, so I lack the motivation to put work into it.

Secondly CEP 2 needs an adult extension that has the EErhum Nude succubus in it and spare it form having the overly ADULT features in the main CEP2 we allso need a fix badly coded items and errors.

I'm not going to remove content from the CEP (that would mess with previous work done by builders), but I can add a "[Nudity]" tag to the end of appearances that contain bare breasts to warn people that are offended by seeing boobs in the toolset.  It's up to individual builders anyway if they use something.

I'd need a list of such appearances though (line numbers would be best, exact wording of names in CEP 2.4 would work, too).

Online server list fix; we have a registry of servers lets use it lets try and get a active registry fix an exe a player can run that will be activate and change update multiplayer functions on the game.

This is already handled by NWNCX, and CEP does not modify the game client in any way.

complete the content add in for CEP2 (or just write it off as complete after the fix and adult content separation last I recall there was a nudeie in it) and make it compatible with CEP1

Because lots of things were changed between CEP 1 and CEP 2, and the fact that they do not even share file names, they can't be made compatible.  There's no problems in having both downloaded in your hak folder at the same time, they just won't work together in the same module.

make a CEP2 and CEP 1 2 starter moduels

There are starter modules for 2.3 and 2.4, I think.  No clue about 1.x.  I do plan on having one or two starter modules for version 2.60 with the haks pre-associated, but they won't be crammed full of blueprints and scripts or anything.

start work on an official CEP3

That would be up to someone else.  I wouldn't use it myself, so I lack motivation to put any effort or content into a non-backwards-compatible version 3.

before we go any further into the return of the CEP we need to preserve what made this game wonderful so we will need open uber /legit PVP and open roleplay servers with no item restrictions outside the normal lets clarify the classifications and see if we can get this game running on all fours again.

This has nothing to do with the CEP.

If you want a completely open local-vault server with no restrictions and you can't find one that exists, feel free to make your own.  That's the great thing about this game...you can make a module/server to suit your own tastes if you don't find what you want elsewhere.

[kuronue bloodlust]

First off CEP1 someone needs to make a straight complete download of the CEP1 to latest version

I hear that "kuronue" person is free.

It would mainly entail downloading each 1.x version, extracting each haks contents into their own folders, then downloading the following versions and extracting to the same folders so that newer versions of models and such overwrite newer versions.  When done, put the contents back into haks (with the same names to stay compatible with servers/modules using them), and getting the updated package uploaded to the new Vault (or a link to them sent to me so that I can get them to the CEP entry on the new Vault.

I don't personally use earlier versions of CEP, so I lack the motivation to put work into it.

Secondly CEP 2 needs an adult extension that has the EErhum Nude succubus in it and spare it form having the overly ADULT features in the main CEP2 we allso need a fix badly coded items and errors.

I'm not going to remove content from the CEP (that would mess with previous work done by builders), but I can add a "[Nudity]" tag to the end of appearances that contain bare breasts to warn people that are offended by seeing boobs in the toolset.  It's up to individual builders anyway if they use something.

I'd need a list of such appearances though (line numbers would be best, exact wording of names in CEP 2.4 would work, too).

Online server list fix; we have a registry of servers lets use it lets try and get a active registry fix an exe a player can run that will be activate and change update multiplayer functions on the game.

This is already handled by NWNCX, and CEP does not modify the game client in any way.

complete the content add in for CEP2 (or just write it off as complete after the fix and adult content separation last I recall there was a nudeie in it) and make it compatible with CEP1

Because lots of things were changed between CEP 1 and CEP 2, and the fact that they do not even share file names, they can't be made compatible.  There's no problems in having both downloaded in your hak folder at the same time, they just won't work together in the same module.

make a CEP2 and CEP 1 2 starter moduels

There are starter modules for 2.3 and 2.4, I think.  No clue about 1.x.  I do plan on having one or two starter modules for version 2.60 with the haks pre-associated, but they won't be crammed full of blueprints and scripts or anything.

start work on an official CEP3

That would be up to someone else.  I wouldn't use it myself, so I lack motivation to put any effort or content into a non-backwards-compatible version 3.

before we go any further into the return of the CEP we need to preserve what made this game wonderful so we will need open uber /legit PVP and open roleplay servers with no item restrictions outside the normal lets clarify the classifications and see if we can get this game running on all fours again.

This has nothing to do with the CEP.

If you want a completely open local-vault server with no restrictions and you can't find one that exists, feel free to make your own.  That's the great thing about this game...you can make a module/server to suit your own tastes if you don't find what you want elsewhere.

Previous post apparently aside form a miss-trigger on the filter thou I doubt anyone would care to notice; I actually used the actual; name of the module and its actual description but never the less I am going to now use it as a example of WHY we need to keep these things in mind when making the CEP, so whoever reported that as the curse consider yourself a big baby about this and thus proving my point.

 

if your gonna be that whiny about profanity why have a nude in the community expansion pack to begin with? (backfired didn't it?)

 

addressed in the issues you proposed in order.

• I am far too busy preparing for the last April event for my busyness working on prints and merchandise for my booth at a charity event to dig through my hacks folder and make sure that I have the CEP all nice neat and everything with it for the CEP1 at this time. I will be happy to do so but in honesty its best if someone else were to do it, preferably someone who knows more about the CEP than myself.
• If you don't want to make an extension and remove the nude succubus form the CEP2 make a GA version of the CEP2 and NEXT CEP make sure to have a Adult extension; If I can't show bare female breast in a comic and call it GA you most assuredly can't have that succubus in the CEP2 and call it general audience.
• The online server list fix is instructions and the places they have the person going are excessively dangerous to be messing with stuff; it is too easy for someone to cause irreversible damage to their operating system. It would be better if there were an executable file they could download and run that would make all the necessary fixes for them. I speak of course for the people who are not very computer literate and are afraid of causing damage to their system.
• Actually it has been done before, a 2da file has been made that actually has made the CEp1 and CEP2 comparable its not ideal true but it worked and they were able to use All the peaceable armor sets and additions, my suggestion for a next cep is to take all the GA items made and put them together in a working file its a wonderful collection of content however the bugs in the CEP2 are a presented issue still they have not yet had their coding fixed. writing and maintaining a 2da for a server is hard enough having to add fixes for hacks just takes up ever sent a free time I don't have. I am not a coding genus I barley understand the C scripting used in NWN to do what I need to for a campaign module. but I know people that are and have done wonderful things I just wish some of them posted their stuff in the Vault.
• The only CEP2 starter module I got in trouble for mentioning is poorly made badly named (according to forum admins) and lacks the proper scripting to file the item names properly. it is no starter more of a clean up my mess because I'm lazy module. someone can do better liek the CEP1 it DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ELABORATE one area will do nicely.
• Who said anything about making it non backwards compatible the 3rd instillation could be 1 and 2 without adult content and an added extension for the players wanting to make adult things. so you have to rename a few things, last I checked that didn't take very long, it also gives one an opportunity to add other truly epic hacks into the mix that were missed.
• The lat part may have nothing to do with CEP content but it has everything to do with its influence. the community demand has run the game in the past, there were obvious problems with some things done and there were the few that were not so obvious that had to deal with negative backlash for allowing such freedoms.

there is allot that can be done but lets be honest being lazy about it is not solving anything and is not going to help the community.

[Zwerkules]

Previous post apparently aside form a miss-trigger on the filter thou I doubt anyone would care to notice; I actually used the actual; name of the module ...

there is allot that can be done but lets be honest being lazy about it is not solving anything and is not going to help the community.

 

The name of a module? You used a three letter word that started with "a" to personally attack someone, not the name of a module.

And now you are calling people lazy. How is that going to solve anything?

So you want to help the community? Good! Start by showing some respect to people here who already DID what you claim to want to do.

And whatever nudity there may be in the CEP, the people who made it are probably long gone and you shouldn't attack people who are updating the CEP for something they never added to the CEP themselves.

And if that content in the CEP should really become such a problem, it will only kill the CEP, not the game.

 

If you don't like the server list some hard working community members made, make a better one. You're not a programmer? Then don't complain about something other people did in their own free time if you can't even understand what it is they did! Let's see you do a better job!

[3RavensMore]

Tip: If you want someone to volunteer their time to help you with a project, don't shout, insult, or make demands of them as a means of encouraging them to help you.  You did all three.

[Pstemarie]

Hey! now you can make offensive people's posts disappear - cool. No need to report them anymore.

[Carcerian]

Dear Gawd, not the Boobies!

 

For the record, Neverwinter Nights was released with a TEEN rating.

 

("Adult" content implies sexual situations, such as intimate emotes and the like...)

 

According to Amazon's summary of The Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings: http://www.amazon.co...TF8&docId=71576

 

EARLY CHILDHOOD

Content is intended for young children.

 

EVERYONE

Content is generally suitable for all ages. May contain minimal cartoon,  fantasy or mild violence and/or infrequent use of mild language.

 

EVERYONE 10+

Content is generally suitable for ages 10 and up. May contain more  cartoon, fantasy or mild violence, mild language and/or minimal  suggestive themes.

 

TEEN

Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain  violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated  gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

 

MATURE

Content is generally suitable for persons ages 17 and up. May contain  intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong  language.

 

ADULTS ONLY

Content suitable for adults 18 years and up. May include prolonged  scenes of intense violence, graphic sexual content and/or gambling  with real currency.

 

 

(see also http://www.esrb.org)

 

Since CEP 2.4 probably does now qualify as a Mature add-on, due to the nude creature appearances and the Sinfar body parts and clothes, a content warning label on the CEP download pages might not be a terrible idea, as there are still under age 17+ members in the community...

 

A "kid" patch to "cover up" the nudity in CEP could be possible, it would just need to replace nude monsters with non-nudes, and replace nude body parts/racy clothing with standard NWN ones. CEP could have Mature or Teen options, depending on the haks the developer chose to use.

 

(I recall certian mods made by concerned parents making less exposed female portraits to override the standard nwn ones, as an example).

[kalbaern]

I have a list of my own demands! I want them addressed by tomorrow morning at the latest!  If not ... uhm ... I'll ... erm ... ahem ... nevermind, I'll do it myself.

 

Support for CEP 1.X versions lapsed years ago. Just "who" do folk think owes them continued support? Was there a lifetime service contract for CEP I missed purchasing somewhere?

 

• I am far too busy preparing for the last April event for my busyness working on prints and merchandise for my booth at a charity event to dig through my hacks folder and make sure that I have the CEP all nice neat and ... *blah, blah, whine, blah*.

Lacking time, knowledge, motivation or even general intelligence is no reason for folks to acquiesce to you demands. As for CEP 2X versions having "nudity", its optional to use those few appearances and in no way mandatory or forced. If you don't like it, simply don't use it.

 

• The online server list fix is instructions and the places they have the person going are excessively dangerous to be messing with stuff; it is too easy for someone to cause irreversible damage to their operating system. It would be better if there were an executable file they could download and run that would make all the necessary fixes for them. I speak of course for the people who are not very computer literate and are afraid of causing damage to their system.

If you follow the instructions, carefully and by "carefully" I mean, step by step, you'll not damage anything irreparably. Admittedly, some folks are simply -gunshy- when it comes to changing "things" on their computers, but that doesn't make doing so dangerous or in anyway damaging.

 

As for the other complaints brought up by the OP ... meh ... I have a headache and am failing badly at restraining my own snarkiness.

[3RavensMore]

 

Dear Gawd, not the Boobies!

 

For the record, Neverwinter Nights was released with a TEEN rating.

 

("Adult" content implies sexual situations, such as intimate emotes and the like...)

 

According to Amazon's summary of The Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings: http://www.amazon.co...TF8&docId=71576

 

(see also http://www.esrb.org)

 

Since CEP 2.4 probably does now qualify as a Mature add-on, due to the nude creature appearances and the Sinfar body parts and clothes, a content warning label on the CEP download pages might not be a terrible idea, as there are still under age 17+ members in the community...

 

A "kid" patch to "cover up" the nudity in CEP could be possible, it would just need to replace nude monsters with non-nudes, and replace nude body parts/racy clothing with standard NWN ones. CEP could have Mature or Teen options, depending on the haks the developer chose to use.

 

(I recall certian mods made by concerned parents making less exposed female portraits to override the standard nwn ones, as an example).

 

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that CEP does not equal Mature in any way.  The early published edition of the AD&D sourcebooks had five or six illustrations in the three books that included nudity.  Fast forward to 2014—if it wasn’t adult in 1977-79 it certainly doesn’t deserve a mature rating now.

[Carcerian]

 As for CEP 2X versions having "nudity", its optional to use those few appearances and in no way mandatory or forced. If you don't like it, simply don't use it.

 

 

While true on the player side, the use of CEP can still be a concern if builder teams wish to include underaged members.

 

(A Teen friendly option might make future use of CEP less complicated in that regard.)

 

Potential Scenario:

 

Minor is gifted NWN by parent who chose a game less severe than some of the more modern and explicit games...

 

Minor Loads game, sees toolset, learns is a fun toy...

 

Minor Downloads community expansion pack, because many modules and servers use...

 

Minor browses CEP content, and is exposed to nudity without warning, and parents become understandably upset after discovering what all the giggling is about.

 

(Currently CEP is an as-is abandoned project, but if future editions are (hopefully) released, it might be a good topic to address in the future.)

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that CEP does not equal Mature in any way.  The early published edition of the AD&D sourcebooks had five or six illustrations in the three books that included nudity.  Fast forward to 2014—if it wasn’t adult in 1977-79 it certainly doesn’t deserve a mature rating now.

 

 

Hehe, yeah, lots of 0e-1e books had topless barbarians, and Deities and Demi-Gods even went full frontal, no less... *70's Spoiler Alert*

 

The Question there is should the existing nude 3D models for monsters like succubus, centaurs, marillith, and the Sinfar body parts and armor be considered "Teen" or  "Mature" by modern rating systems?

 

Assumedly, if vanilla NWN is TEEN, then 3rd party mods containing actual nudity, such as CEP, would be considered MATURE by most forum standards, and the intimate emotes and more sexually oriented material found in the various social server haksets are ADULTS ONLY ratings.

[Wensleydale]

Yeah, you guys, you're all just lazy! You need to do everything "I've only been here five seconds but I'm already making buttock-clenchingly hilarious demands of the community guy" has asked for, like, right now, or you're terrible people and you'll all go to Hell.

[Pstemarie]

I work in the U.S. education system, primarily with children ages 12-14, and the sex education program they receive in 6th grade contains much more nudity than the CEP. Nor is the curriculum of that program sent home for parental review prior to it being used. Frankly, if parents are waiting until their children see it first in a video game to have "the talk," I hope they're ready to be grandparents at a very young age.

[Tchos]

The early published edition of the AD&D sourcebooks had five or six illustrations in the three books that included nudity.

 

In fact, the succubus was one of them.

[Mecheon]

Black White's Thrush Bloodlust, insulting the people working on things you're planning on? Not always the best idea

Support for CEP 1.X versions lapsed years ago. Just "who" do folk think owes them continued support? Was there a lifetime service contract for CEP I missed purchasing somewhere?

He has a point in that it is a -huge- problem, considering to use older modules, you need like 3 different versions of the CEP installed. It is as user friendly as a spike through the foot. However we complained about this when CEP 1.0 upgraded to CEP 2.0

[Pstemarie]

There is on the old vault an unofficial update for CEP1.x that makes it compatible with v1.69.

[Shadooow]

OK I want to see the CEP return they were a quick good way to make and elaborate a server.

• First off CEP1 someone needs to make a straight complete download of the CEP1 to latest version 

Ive done this, sort of - i added all the content from the patches 1.53+ into my own haks so players needed to download only 1.52 - but this is not a good idea to do generally because there are older modules that are requiring these haks. And there is almost nobody who would appreciate a polished cep1 version to build new module anymore.

 

 

Some other projects the New CEP can work on

• Online server list fix; we have a registry of servers lets use it lets try and get a active registry fix an exe a player can run that will be activate and change update multiplayer functions on the game.

This is hardly a focus or interest of CEP. Would be better suited to the community patch but there is a problem of the implementation - it requires nwn client *hakc (direct exe modification or a nwncx.exe hook) which is problematic because of EULA afaik. The NWNCX solution is probably not, but this solution is not suited for a generic update of the client especially when it loads different plugins etc. etc.

Modifié par Shadooow, 15 avril 2014 - 11:08 .

[kuronue bloodlust]

The name of a module? You used a three letter word that started with "a" to personally attack someone, not the name of a module.

And now you are calling people lazy. How is that going to solve anything?

So you want to help the community? Good! Start by showing some respect to people here who already DID what you claim to want to do.

And whatever nudity there may be in the CEP, the people who made it are probably long gone and you shouldn't attack people who are updating the CEP for something they never added to the CEP themselves.

And if that content in the CEP should really become such a problem, it will only kill the CEP, not the game.

 

If you don't like the server list some hard working community members made make a better one. You're not a programmer? Then don't complain about something other people did in their own free time if you can't even understand what it is they did! Let's see you do a better job!

and that would have been the misfire where part of the text was erased or didn't make it, a problem on my end that should have been solved as for the "personal attack" OH like him being a jerk about it isn't personal SERIOUSLY;

 

you preach allot about maturity but I hardly see any form you at this moment taking the post out of context because of one posting error that YOU DIDN'T EVEN GIVE ME THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND OR NOTICE HAPPENED, and I am gonna pin that on you as hard as I can because you should really be practicing what you decide to preach.

 

I could be really evil and bring up every other post were you were being a disrespectful menace but I'm gonna be nice and leave it as you pulled something out of context because of a problem on my computer led to a error in the previous post. I will admit the error on my end was extremely bad but At least I got it fixed after being properly informed some of my posts were not appearing right by a NICER person.

 

Also off topic Don't make me ask you to remove it: this topic in question is to revive a mass content pack liek the CEP where its comparable with the last relive of the NWN; to make a effort to ensure the hack packs are more contactable with one another.

 

so instead of snuffing it liek you are clearly trying to do why not oh HMM MAKE A SUGGESTION that works for everyone. Also as a side note NEXT TIME I am not going to be so nice and will proceed to tear every post you made in the past 5 weeks to shreds in one post the next time you decide to degrade me with your superiority complex. 

 

 

Ive done this, sort of - i added all the content from the patches 1.53+ into my own haks so players needed to download only 1.52 - but this is not a good idea to do generally because there are older modules that are requiring these haks. And there is almost nobody who would appreciate a polished cep1 version to build new module anymore.

 

This is hardly a focus or interest of CEP. Would be better suited to the community patch but there is a problem of the implementation - it requires nwn client *hakc (direct exe modification or a nwncx.exe hook) which is problematic because of EULA afaik. The NWNCX solution is probably not, but this solution is not suited for a generic update of the client especially when it loads different plugins etc. etc.

Really Can I ask you to make me a hackpack than for my server? I really really want to use the cep1 and all the good peaceable options in the latest nwn and customization features as well as some 1800's inspired attire if it still exists and a series of animal based tails for more player customization options, if you agree to help I need to give you my skype so we can work out an agreement.

 

As yes as I mentioned before, the exe that fixes the server list would be about getting the CEP back to helping the comunity.

 

as for you other people not realizing the cep was had BEAUTIFUL oriental peaceable and wonderful series of content for natural and unnatural settings that were just thrown away carelessly when the cep2 came out. I could go into how if you make an expansion its actually a VARCE to let it lapse into a complete incomparable state but the games not improving anymore its not gaining placeables without the assistance of a hackpack NOW would be a wonderful time to fix the incomparably issue.

 

There were people who used it to its full extent liek me who GOT SCREWED when the CEP2 came out because we couldn't work with the new CEP it lacked too much of what we were using.

 

by being a big baby about the hackpack and not updating it you actually make yourself look bad, I don't have a problem with that but please don't come into my threads where I'm pleading someone WILLING TO help make a comparable version to do it. and everyone here who is saying no one needs to no one needs to its useless bla bla bla, you are being disrespectful rude and just downright inappropriate. this is me trying to find someone to help me build MY vision of my server NOT your vision of what you think my server is. and allowing  them to do so in a way that helps other developers and players alike.

 

just because one developer is lazy does not mean you have a right to attack someone looking for one that isn't to do what was left undone

 

There is on the old vault an unofficial update for CEP1.x that makes it compatible with v1.69.

Yes; but I would much rather see a full download that is 100% comparable with the last update to nwn. too many hacks in one pool can denture players so I am actively looking for a hack-pack builder that can help me.

 

and lastly to address the succubus issues 2d images aren't held to the same laws as 3d, I never said I liked the laws in fact I think the people controlling them are off their rockers with stupidity but they should be considered when making community expansions.

 

Yeah, you guys, you're all just lazy! You need to do everything "I've only been here five seconds but I'm already making buttock-clenchingly hilarious demands of the community guy" has asked for, like, right now, or you're terrible people and you'll all go to Hell.

 

I cant tell if your mocking me or trying to make a point so I will opt to just call this comment completely off topic, I suggest we let it settle on that.

 

NOW if you aren't gonna help DON'T COMMENT that simple, can we all agree on that? The idea is to preserve content for NWN and make it easier for players to find and customize their servers lets focus on that.

 

why bring the cep1 up to date because until the update that broke and a little time after it it still took over over 50% of the custom servers that in my book is reason enough to at least make it comparable with NWN's last update and work on making future hacks comparable with each other. A reminder that there were people who refused to update past the break point JUST TO KEEP the cep1. 

[henesua]

kuronue bloodlust, I recommend ceasing your hostility.

[boodah83]

 

as for you other people not realizing the cep was had BEAUTIFUL oriental peaceable and wonderful series of content for natural and unnatural settings that were just thrown away carelessly when the cep2 came out.

Ok, nonchalantly ignoring the psychotic breakdown here, but is this actually true? Could you be a bit more specific about what oriental placeables were lost?

[3RavensMore]

You can catch more flies with...  *sigh*  Never mind.

[MannyJabrielle]

If you are so hot for having CEPv1 updated and such..... you could either nicely ask that someone do it for you, or take up the task yourself.

None of us here are in anyway obligated to work for each other.  Everyone here also has their own busy schedule with work, family and such.  The community isn't going to suddenly die off because nobody has met your demands in a short and timely manner.  We are all here, everybody has their own projects they are working on, collaborating when time and desire for such permits.  Be thankful for having fellow community members that put out the great custom content you crave.  I certainly am, as are many others here.

Seriously, chill.

[kuronue bloodlust]

If you are so hot for having CEPv1 updated and such..... you could either nicely ask that someone do it for you, or take up the task yourself.

None of us here are in anyway obligated to work for each other.  Everyone here also has their own busy schedule with work, family and such.  The community isn't going to suddenly die off because nobody has met your demands in a short and timely manner.  We are all here, everybody has their own projects they are working on, collaborating when time and desire for such permits.  Be thankful for having fellow community members that put out the great custom content you crave.  I certainly am, as are many others here.

Seriously, chill.

you haven't seen the start of this thread much have you? 

 

I did ask nicely it was a it would be great if.... and it was made as a content suggestion.

 

thanks to two forum members with too much support in my opinion (because it not only allowed them to take this thread 100% out of context but move it to where its difficult to FIND the person I need or someone who IS willing to do such things for the CEP developers since they made it more then clear they are not going to take the time to properly maintain "their hard work") they have been doing NOTHING but demeaning me, At first you will notice I decided to ignore this at first but Alas my comments and explanations go on death ears and they continued to belittle me. Something that is extremely rude inappropriate and i find it just vile that the only reason you support them is because they were here first.

 

I would liek to thank everyone that made bad comments in support of these two for COMPLETELY IGNORING my person feelings about being belittled by them.

 

now because of one error brought on by a Trojan on my system (that has since been removed my system repaired) NO THANKS TO SOMEONE I WILL NOT NAME for failing to tell me that part of a post intended for tumblr in retort to something completely far off topic seriously the fact it didn't quite sound right should have been a red light for him but clearly was NOT.

 

This person knows who they are and I made it clear that I will not tolerate this superiority game I am not above blocking them and reporting them for harassment. I have been building modules since after platinum was first made available I have built a WIDE range of modules and If I hadn't lost everything when my hard-drive crashed (before i had means to back it up) they would all be in the new vault now.

 

so I am going to say this again and try this again; If you are NOT posting here to help if you are not posting here to make positive suggestions please DO NOT post at all as your comment is more than likely off topic this thread was originally intended to find someone who will act as a archivist for the CEP ensuring that NWN's CEP's are comparable and have a one click full download. this topic isn't even int eh right thread anymore because of third party banter so PLEASE STOP.

 

THINK about what this is about

REMEMBER if your comment is not about attaining a archivist to maintain older CEP's and help create hackpacks for mass custom content servers; you probably don't need to be making it.

 

and no more of this nonsense form them two that is NOT what this thread is about.

 

edited: fixed posting errors due to transfer load errors.

 

 

Ok, nonchalantly ignoring the psychotic breakdown here, but is this actually true? Could you be a bit more specific about what oriental placeables were lost?

I'm sorry I realizes I hadn't addressed you, allot of the wall art and interior decor as well as the Celtic walls and quite a few plants the Bamboo and Sakura trees were all removed form the CEP last update I was able to download in the past before my hard-drive went poof on me and I lost EVERYTHING. at that time I could not afford a external storage device big enough thou I tried using Zip file and winrar. I seriously had that many things to save and that didn't include my modules and downloadable content liek auto-closing and locking doors.

 

At one point I had learned what every single script in the standard library did and even had portal crystals that actual worked as an on click basis like doors.

[MannyJabrielle]

Yes, I did read the thread from the first post on.

 

 

Zwerkles gave you a heads up on a thread already covering the CEP update, and mentioned that AD was heading up this new update. AD's not one of the orignal CEP team, he has only recently started on "maintaining" the project by working on a new update.  His response listed your specific points, what points fit into the 2.6 cep update, what didn't and why he would not be including such projects into his schedule.  Neither his post nor Zwerkles were in any way demeaning of you or your personal feelings.

 

 

The CEP stands for community expansion project. The CEP is a compilation of multiple independent works, and while the original developers are not on the project now, there are new members taking up maintaining it and updating it, despite your backhanded insults towards them accusing them of not.  The community members taking up the project are under no obligation to do so, which is the primary reason why your continual and habitual insults are particularly grating to many people here who are extremely appreciative for the CEP team's efforts.

 

Sorry, no, you did not ask nicely in the initial posting, although the post I see was not blatantly rude.  What comes after the initial post has been extremely rude however.  You refer to others as whiny, lazy, and even up to now you still persist in a petulant and demanding attitude.

 

I am very sorry for your busy schedule, the trojan on your computer or whatever situation is preventing you from taking on the project yourself. But that is no excuse for the poor attitude and demands. If you want demeaning and a complete disregard of personal feelings, here it is: Stop being a jerk.

[Mecheon]

You go on about personal attacks and don't point out I translated your forum name to English? I thought that was clever of me .

 

why bring the cep1 up to date because until the update that broke and a little time after it it still took over over 50% of the custom servers that in my book is reason enough to at least make it comparable with NWN's last update and work on making future hacks comparable with each other. A reminder that there were people who refused to update past the break point JUST TO KEEP the cep1. 

Yes. We know about this. Trust me, you are preaching to the choir. Unfortunately the damage is done and we have to take what we can for what we have to work with.

 

Here are some facts

 

1: In the current format, it is impossible to get CEP 1 and CEP 2 completely compatible with each other. One of the two is going to need to be catered towards

2: People complained. Oh -boy- did they complain. You are not the first. I could dig up some of the complaints, but they were on the old Neverwinter Bioware board when there was a separate CEP board so I'd have to search through all the archived posts and... That's 17,000 posts just to find some ignored complaints that most people didn't like Rest assured your issues were brought up at the time and ignored by the CEP team at the time, who have all vanished

3: The CEP has been stagnant for a year and you came in at a wonderful time, as Amethyst Dragon has decided enough is enough and taken over what he can by a violent show of force. Okay, I'm lying, it wasn't violent. But basically no work has been done on the CEP in forever until someone decided to do a hostile takeover of it. The people who made every CEP version, from the prototypes all the way to 2.3, are long gone. 2.4/3 is a hypothetical.thing at this point

4: At this point the team can either burn everything done on CEP 2 and go back to an old one that hasn't even been updated for Patch 1.69, or salvage what we can from the new one that more people are using

 

Now, let's do something Kuronue to solve the other issue at hand: Missing placables

 

Let me know, if you see any of those Oriental placables in either of these two images

Image one, Coulisfu's Oriental (Third row down)

Charlie's Oriental Placables

 

If you see the placables in question on either of those two, then I can find the hak and we can look into why they've been removed.