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[Uxiro]

Was wondering if anyone knew the exact requirements for reputation. The Wiki says "Shepard must have at least four bars of Reputation." Does this include both paragon and renegade, or does it have to be just one type?

And can anyone recommend some good sources of reputation at this point in the game?

Otherwise i'm stuck being responsible for the genocide of the Quarians, since apparently not even a single ship, shuttle, or escape pod manages to escape the battle.

 

I'm pretty sure I have the required 5 "points" from other decisions.

- Completed both Tali and Legions loyalty missions in ME2

    - Overwrote heretics (since apparently brainwashing your enemy is more ethical than simply killing them, and I wanted the paragon points) [+0]

    - Tali not exiled (Didn't tell quarians about her father, but didn't get her exiled either - picked the "it doesnt matter what happened, Tali's awesome so stop being a douche" option.) [+2]

- Resolved Tali / Legion conflict (Tali offered to share non-classified information with Legion) [+1]

- Completed both optional Rannoch missions - saved the Admiral of civilian fleet and destroyed geth fighters. [+1][+1]

[DeinonSlayer]

Rewriting the heretics makes it harder on yourself.

Reputation is a third value, independent of paragon or renegade. I'll spare the usual lecture on why I see picking whatever is at the top of the wheel for blue happy points and absorbing whatever position Shepard spouts without thinking as stupid.

Long story short, whereas they were the basis of ME2's persuasion mechanic, your paragon and renegade scores don't matter in ME3. Reputation unlocks your persuasion options instead of pouring everything into one or the other. To get reputation points, you need to finish side missions, finish every fetch quest you can (some items are found in map scanning, others during missions), and talk to your crew.

You never mentioned - Legion is alive, right? The Geth VI that replaces him makes it pretty clear it intends to exterminate the Quarians (again). Both Tali and Legion need to have survived ME2.

[Propelled Rage]

I'm pretty sure Paragon & Renegade doesn't matter just the reputation bars. Apart from what Deinon said you can respec rank 4 of your passive class power to increase reputation points if you haven't already.

[themikefest]

Just thought I post this

 

This is what it says in the Colector's Edition Guide Book (page 263)

Save Tali from exile in ME2.(+2 points) Now I know if you turn over the evidence to the Admirals, Tali will be found innocent, but will not be loyal

Destroy the heretic geth in "A House Divided" during Legion's loyalty mission(+2 points)

Get peace between Tali and Legion in ME2(+1 point) I would suggest making a save before doing this in case you pick the wrong dialogue

Complete the Geth Fighter Squadron mission

Complete "Rannoch Admiral Koris" (+1 point)

Save Admiral Koris(+1 point)

You have to have at least 5 points to acheive peace and have at least 4 bars filled for your reputation.

 

 

 

Also did this on a playthrough awhile back. It wasn't too hard to get my reputation high enough to obtain peace.

 

In ME2 I turned over the evidence to Admirals which led to not having Tali loyal, but she was found innocent of all charges.

I destroyed the heretics gaining Legion's loyalty.

I never got the opportunity to get peace between Legion and Tali.becasue she wasn't loyal.

In ME3 I saved Koris, did the Geth consenus mission.

After the reaper was destroyed, I chose let the Geth die option(I'm playing as a renegade) than told Legion to upload the code(bottom left dialogue) which led to some cool dialogue from femshep and peace was obtained.               

[Uxiro]

Yeah, never really been keen on the whole point system myself. Don't see the point in letting me choose where to go in the game if you're just going to let me do a whole mission only to tell me "whoops, sorry, you should've done some other missions first to grind points" And yeah, Legion is still alive, managed to keep everyone but Jack alive. Again because I didn't have enough paragon to keep her and Miranda loyal, which is why I replayed Legions loyalty mission in the first place and overwrote the 2nd time to get the paragon points, which still weren't enough -_____-

But hey. I'll try the respec thing, and if that fails, I'll go bother people on the citadel for a bit Cheers for the help

[DeinonSlayer]

Do you play on PC? You could always grab Gibbed Save Editor and set your paragon/renegade/reputation points to whatever you want. Works for both ME2 and ME3.

[Uxiro]

Yeah, on PC. Considered the save editor, but it kinda feels like cheating :/ I almost have 4 bars, so should be able to get enough reputation.

[Sir DeLoria]

Otherwise i'm stuck being responsible for the genocide of the Quarians, since apparently not even a single ship, shuttle, or escape pod manages to escape the battle.

Oh, there are certainly tons of survivors, utter destruction of a fleet of this size is literally impossible and many Quarians didn't live on the fleet anyway. But it does count as genocide wether or not there are survivors.

Just wanted to clear that up

[Uxiro]

Dunno, that was the impression I got since the geth say something like "it is regrettable the creators had to die" and

Spoiler

Tali kills herself

They made it seem like all quarians were dead. Even though, as you say, there should be loads of survivors still.

[Barquiel]

Dunno, that was the impression I got since the geth say something like "it is regrettable the creators had to die" and

Spoiler

Tali kills herself

They made it seem like all quarians were dead. Even though, as you say, there should be loads of survivors still.

 

According to the codex some few quarian ships did escape -- "but alone and on the run in geth space, they are living numbered days."

[CrutchCricket]

You've done the same things I've done OP, and I never had a problem securing peace. My take on the elements:

 

Tali, Legion- loyal and present: Duh. Both sides need to trust you. I've never had a problem acquitting Tali without the evidence or resolving their conflict. And the paragon option here says what I feel pretty spot on: Your war is dumb, quit it. We have bigger things to worry about.

 

Side-missions: I guess it's about keeping thing even? If one side can just go ahead and roflstomp the other, it'd be harder to make them stop.

 

Heretics: I always rewrite. The geth are willing to be my allies and I need my allies strong. I think it's bullshit it doesn't count towards peace but at least it's not a negative count. Then again, it's dumber how all of it's completely ignored in ME3 anyway.

[Sir DeLoria]

According to the codex some few quarian ships did escape -- "but alone and on the run in geth space, they are living numbered days."

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, why would the Geth continue to hunt down ships after they already won? Civilian or single military ships don't posess any threat and should be used against the Reapers after all. Also, if they do in fact regret the destruction of the Flotilla, why would they continue their wrongs?

[Sir DeLoria]

Dunno, that was the impression I got since the geth say something like "it is regrettable the creators had to die" and

Spoiler

Tali kills herself

They made it seem like all quarians were dead. Even though, as you say, there should be loads of survivors still.

Well, the fleet was destroyed and that certainly was the main lifesource of the Quarian community, so I'm guessing the line refers to that. If Tali's account from ME1 is correct, there should be multiple ten to hundred thousand independent Quarians living in the galaxy. Except for the ships, you still have the Quarian marines on the ground, escape pods that were already on the ground and escape pods from the fleet(should be literally multiple thousands).

[KaiserShep]

One would think that the other ships would have been recalled to help engage the geth. Of course, there's no way of knowing how many would have complied, but I imagine that it be pretty easy to compel some of them when it comes to the prospect of retaking Rannoch for good.