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[FOX216BC]

I think (hope) the new ME will be a good game.

But if it will be as EPIC as the current ME trilogy?

 

I do understand Bioware in their choice to start a new ME story with non (or almost non) of the original characters.

They used a ton of voice actors for these games.

It's hard to keep all of them committed to you're game.

 

Will ME be awesome with out Shepard?

The problem is that many people will expect a character that's  better then or at least as good as Shepard.

Any lesser and many will be miss pleased.

 

That's Bioware greatest strenght/weakness/challenge.

They have made such rich and fantastic characters, that it will make people wonder if they can do better.

 

I hope for the future of ME Shepard doesn't create a Master Chief effect.

Halo fan or not, Fact is Halo games do it alot better with the chief then without him.

But 343 does not have the problem to have so much rich charaters  surrounding the Chief.

 

So will the next ME be awesome without Shepard?

Well if i go over these forums many peoples opinions about Shepard would make me say yes.

Many do not see Shepard as their favorite character of the series.

They prefer the supporting cast, such as Liara, Garrus, Tali...

Some even want a game in which you play as Garrus.

 

But all these characters we know from Shepards point of view.

They make us laugh,sad,pissed... in the way they interact with Shepard.

And we as players,form Shepard and his relations with them.

I for one love more the idea of interacting with these characters, rather then to play as them.

 

The strength of Shepard lies in the characters surrounding him and the way they interact with each other.

 

If Bioware get's that part right with the next ME i think we will be in for a treat.

 

Still

"There is no Shepard without Vakarian"

 

Short answer ... I don't know.

 

[JohnRaynor]

"I really hope this new Mass Effect game will not have the number 4 in its title, this would mean it would be a continuation of the Shepard Trilogy, yet we wouldn't be on the Normandy or its crew of Shepard, or Shepard 2."

 

This is totally wrong, they already named a Mass Effect name for the next part and it is not MASS EFFECT 4 they named it already...

 

"People are saying they will not play ME 4 cause it is going to be a brand new deal in a new situation, HELLO it is a BRAND NEW, Shepard's Journey is over & finished, I guess most people don't understand the concept behind a trilogy."

 

I will play it cuz guys, it is the same studio developing it and the same guys, so why it should be that bad? Alright, Mass Effect 1 and 2 were much more better thant part 3 the third one was just bad in my sight but well, now they can only do it better for part 4.

 

And guys, there can be a Mass Effect 4 I got the Extended cut and in my End Shepard survived, Normandy survived and got repaired later they flew back up.. The next Mass Effect 4 would like " They find a locked gate and unlock it via a reaper heart and jump to the orcus nebula to mess up with those reapers and finally beat them away"... So and the ships dont need the portals at all they can just not anymore jump all over the galaxy without those but some survived it...

 

o.o

[Arcian]

I am hoping for a Sub-Name like Mass Effect - Dark Nexus, Mass Effect - Rising Darkness, Mass Effect - Infiltration, or Mass Effect - Crimson Skies or something along those lines.

Mass Effect: The Search for More Money

[Duke Daemon]

Mass Effect: The Search for More Money

You know as much as I do they will never use that name. It's more likely it would be called Mass Effect: Mining Corporation. Where the whole game is quite literally just the mining game from ME2 and you sell what precious ores you get to the Alliance. Finding reaper/prothian artefacts just act as bonus treasures which you can either sell or use as upgrades. You can also get a galactic game over if you find a lost tomb hidden at the core of a planet filled with large black killing machines.

[CaIIisto]

Prequel - The Adventures of Young Space Casper. If you didn't loathe him enough already they're drafting in Bieber as the face model.

This new storyline will be charted across a new trilogy, which culminates in three all encompassing and diverse endings;

1. Space Casper wins, organics are culled. Casper gives himself a digital haircut.

2. Space Casper wins, organics are culled. Casper gives himself a digital hat.

3. Space Casper wins, organics are culled. Casper dons some cool digital Aviator shades.

The fate of Casper's favourite pencil remains unknown in all three endings, which leads to much speculationz and praise for BW's inherent artistry in dealing with the key theme of loss.

[dreamgazer]

As someone who looks back on the original trilogy fondly enough, I'll be glad to be rid of Shepard's baggage.  

 

Let the space messiah and his plot variables rest, whether s/he's dead or living.

[hEaT]

ME 4 will take place in a different galaxy, Shepard and crew will get there by flying through a relay which gets blown to pieces the exact time they hit the jump. They land on Galafrey where they meet the mysterious Doctor Who, who offers a free trip back to the Milky Way via TARDIS. Before the doctor can jump the Normandy and it's passengers back to the Milky Way the shielding around the TARDIS' drive core (which is a star going supernova held in suspension) gives out and Shepard dies. You then assume control of the Doctor and the most powerful ship in the universe, his TARDIS..

[lordbyro]

please stop calling it Mass Effect 4.. It's the next Mass Effect.     it's a  whole new series ..  =D

I agree. Next game using ME Universe dont deserves be named "Mass Effect our Mass Effecf: [something more]".

But I'm disappointed when I see gamers saying they "love Shepard" and, meantime, which new game will be awesome without the commander. I can't understand it.

Shepard is spectacular, gorgeous, brave... He finally loved Kaidan (my choice) but Bioware put an end in the possibility Shepard having a family [again].
I mean, Bioware let gamers choose Shepard as survivor to... not survive (?!)

The ending which I chose was the "red" (destroy) and I remember Shepard breathes, alone. I think this is no fair: Go to the future (maybe) without I could help my loved character.

Besides, I believe the renovation ("new air") Bioware claims has nothing to do with Shepard's life. BW doesn't manage to do continuing Shepard's story because she dont know how to create a new challenge for him and his troop.

I sugest Shepard and his squad deserving a big expansion in the same vein the Citadel DLC.

[Gkonone]

 

I agree. Next game using ME Universe dont deserves be named "Mass Effect our Mass Effecf: [something more]".

But I'm disappointed when I see gamers saying they "love Shepard" and, meantime, which new game will be awesome without the commander. I can't understand it.

Shepard is spectacular, gorgeous, brave... He finally loved Kaidan (my choice) but Bioware put an end in the possibility Shepard having a family [again].
I mean, Bioware let gamers choose Shepard as survivor to... not survive (?!)

The ending which I chose was the "red" (destroy) and I remember Shepard breathes, alone. I think this is no fair: Go to the future (maybe) without I could help my loved character.

Besides, I believe the renovation ("new air") Bioware claims has nothing to do with Shepard's life. BW doesn't manage to do continuing Shepard's story because she dont know how to create a new challenge for him and his troop.

I sugest Shepard and his squad deserving a big expansion in the same vein the Citadel DLC.

If I understand you correctly you're saying 'why do the people that say they love Shepard at the same time say they're done with Shepard?'.
If that's what you're saying, I agree. I would have loved to see Shepard back. How great would it have been to see the old crew back, perhaps some new faces?
But it is what it is.
I do have some hope that they'll retcon the ending or do something else to make a ME5 with Shepard a possibility. I can dream.

[BloodyMares]

  If I understand you correctly you're saying 'why do the people that say they love Shepard at the same time say they're done with Shepard?'.
If that's what you're saying, I agree. I would have loved to see Shepard back. How great would it have been to see the old crew back, perhaps some new faces?
But it is what it is.
I do have some hope that they'll retcon the ending or do something else to make a ME5 with Shepard a possibility. I can dream.

Trilogy cast is all nice and all, but let's see the truth. We've seen the whole story of Shepard. From Eden Prime and the first visit of Citadel till the end of his/her days (or not). He or she dedicated his/her life to defeating the greatest threat of the galaxy - the Reapers. And he/she did it. There's nothing left to say. If you're interested to see how he or she retired with someone he/she loves then use your imagination. Trilogy is enough for this character.

It's time for another tale, don't you think?

[hEaT]

I honestly think it would be pretty cool if the new mass effect followed the Protheans. The beginning shows Shepard and crew tying up loose ends but some information dug up during the latter stages of building the crucible shows that most of the Protheans made it to a different galaxy. The collectors were only the indoctrinated splinter cell the Prothean VI mentioned and we play as a Prothean trying to take his civilization back to the Milky Way. Just a thought.

[InWeirdPeril]

Personally, the end of ME3 was an emotional low blow for me and while I would love nothing more to see a continuation Shepards Story, I do get that it is only possible with one of the endings. And yes, I would love to see that as the canon ending.

 

But...

 

All in all I am not opposed to a new story. The only real wish I have, is that Bioware will try to appease the fans, like me, that find the endings still awefull, by putting in some sort of story bit (and be it only in the form of archive Datapads, that are based on the final decision that the player made in end. If Shepard lives and their love interest as well, tell players a bit of what they did afterwards. If they chose to control add a bit of information what the Characters did afterwards. Just a litle bit of fanservice. And if no Save is imported, just leave out how they defeated the reapers. Players just can't find that bit of information in the game. I think that would be a nice compromise. Fanservice for those that want it, and no real reference for those that want ot start completly fresh. A fair solution in my book and a way for bioware settle it once and for all. I think their writers could pull it off and it would be a cost efficient way to add it.

 

But please dont add something like vague references where it is still not clear.

[CaIIisto]

You won't get anything definitive about Shepard in the new ME game. 

 

BW won't want to give up the Shepard lifeboat, just in case the new story sucks and/or isn't popular.

[ZipZap2000]

If they tie it in to ME3 or worse the 2 year period between shepards death and resurrection, it might be enough  to put people off playing it. I have a hard time seeing where they'll go with this but I think starting from scratch is the best possible option. A visit to Palaven to see Primarch Vakarian or Thessia to see Matriarch Liara wouldn't be too bad. But resurrecting Shepard again might just break open a few scars as well as the cheese whizz.

[Gingin]

It seems like I'm the only one who'd like to continue Shepard and his companions' legend.

[Iakus]

It seems like I'm the only one who'd like to continue Shepard and his companions' legend.

It's hard to continue a legend when you're a charcoal briquette/faceless torso.

[q5tyhj]

A sequel to ME3 has sort of already been made... The name of the game was Kingdoms of Amalur-Reckoning. 

 

[MACH SSR]

A little late for my reply to have any impact on the new game..............even then.

What I feel is that when I create a legend with my own hands,time and resources...............its difficult to let it go.
My Shepard wakes up in rubble on streets of London after sending the Reapers packing in their own death cycles,my Krogans Wrex and Grunt arrives on the Tuchanka in victory,Garrus and Tali gets involved for a future, Javik goes out on the Hanar world to live like a God-king or whatever ,Liara does what I cannot know -Joker and company flies off with the crashed Normandy from a new world - James became a part of the N7 and Ashley hesitates putting the Shepard name on the memorial wall but smiles in hope.............the most heart rending thing is Miranda watches the early morning - maybe searching for the one who loved her like a human instead of using her like an asset.Yes my Shepard cured Krogan Genophage,saved Salarian Dalatrass,united Quarians and Geth,let Rachni original queen live twice and the best part is shooting the Illusive man in that God forsaken face.And yes he had survived the suicide mission of Collectors base with all 12 loyal squad members - Thane ,Mordin and Legion are dead - the rest Zaeed,Kasumi,Samara and the usual crew of misfits lives on.

So all these should have an impact on the Mass Effect ver 4.0 - or else it would be a new game of shooting and running - no history no heritage - very apparent and not at all appealing - today Mass Effect is famous for the difference it makes in a gamer's mind - exploring the stars in their own way and living through the consequence - a ME4 without any attachment to ME3 would be just another game.


So all I ask is that - the save game import from ME3 should be there - and make major changes to the storyline we would have in the upcoming game.
I do not ask Shepard to be returned as a playable character - but as the legend he already is(might be an Alliance Admiral then) - I want to see him living a life of ecstasy among all his loved ones - (he had a lot of credits LoL before he ended up in rubble) - now this where the next N7 character should hail from - a human or an alien - Shep's child - depending on his romantic partner - inheriting a lot of Paragon/Renegade upbringing - depending on what path the trilogy Shepard chose - alien friends from childhood - Wrex's son,Garrus's girl,Kolyat,Grunt,Liara's child of Javik (LoL) and all that(complex algorithms)

From what I see the game ends with a human child talking to his elder (dad,grandad ??) - I think this is for the destroy ending - non destroy endings may bring up weird children post synthesis or in control.So BIOWARE left a lot of attachments in the trilogy universe and influences of the Legendary Shepard would be seen in ME4 logically - only that we wont be fighting Reapers - but rather exploring a galaxy which is not Milky Way or something - the Mass Effect has elements to drag this for hundred years - if Bioware wants to.Several galaxies and generations can be explored - this franchise itself can become a legend if it walks the carry forward path.

Lets not forget that Alliance Admiral Hackett planned to rebuild everything in my game - Shepard uses Reapers to rebuild everything in controlling them and Synthetics and organics rebuilds everything in the synthesis - so Mass Effect continues.


Somethings other than what I said above :
1.After destruction of Mass Relays - it would takes years - decades to reach the expanse of Milky Way homeworlds for the Quarians,Vorcha,Drell,Volus,Hanar,Elcor - the Turians , Asari , Krogans and Salarians are closer to Solar System...................even at FTL - if the franchise keeps the realistic touch - those Light years are really infinite miles.We can see the new ME4 beginning almost 50-100 earth years after this.
2.Shepard his crew,his love and Normandy would all be legends by then - we can have their grand children and a new starship full of young men,women and aliens.
3.Citadel is rebuilt as promised - so getting that operational in above earth's orbit would take years if not centuries.
4.Mass Relays may or may not be rebuilt - this is where trilogy decisions comes in - if the end is destruction Reapers - then Galactic races may not replicate what Reapers used - they develop new tech of teleport transport - if the end is control and synthesis - the Reapers rebuilds the Relay.Who ever does it - would take tears if not centuries.
5.Citadel Council federation is broken in the ME3 with destruction of Citadel (there goes the Shepard's million dollar home,Silversun Strip LoL) - what remains is some aliens on earth and a united Galactic fleet dismissed post war - rebuilding their own planet once they reach home world - in new game - we might have to rediscover everything with help of stranded aliens and friends - not Federation or Union would exist.


That how the perfect ME4 should look like.

[InWeirdPeril]

Even though I know, none of that will happen, that is something I could get behind. With only one personal adjustment, 50-100 years is a bit much for me. But other than that. I'd love to see a lot of what you wrote be in the new game. Especially seeing my Shepard and her LI keep their promises they made to each other. Yep, I am a romantic that way. Even with fictional characters.

[CaIIisto]

It seems like I'm the only one who'd like to continue Shepard and his companions' legend.

Definitely NOT just you

There's just an acceptance at this point that it's not going to be.

That being said though, as mentioned previously, it's in BW's interests not to put any finality around the character, for fear of either devaluing people's endgame choice from ME3, or worse still impairing BW's ability to bring the character back in future games should the need arise.

A throw-away line in ME:Next for example that said that Shepard survived the end of ME3 and that they lived to the ripe old age of 103 is going to nark anyone that picked either control or synthesis, and would take away any danger to the character if they appeared in any future game - "oh it's alright, Shepard can't die here because he/she doesn't die until they're 103"...

[InWeirdPeril]

Definitely NOT just you

There's just an acceptance at this point that it's not going to be.

That being said though, as mentioned previously, it's in BW's interests not to put any finality around the character, for fear of either devaluing people's endgame choice from ME3, or worse still impairing BW's ability to bring the character back in future games should the need arise.

A throw-away line in ME:Next for example that said that Shepard survived the end of ME3 and that they lived to the ripe old age of 103 is going to nark anyone that picked either control or synthesis, and would take away any danger to the character if they appeared in any future game - "oh it's alright, Shepard can't die here because he/she doesn't die until they're 103"...

 

Unless you make that line dependand on your save game import. Which would be the smart way to go about. It would not devaluate any player choices and it would probably sit well with fans that want to know their shepard/crew/LI is ok. No harm in that really.

Especially, since I dont think BW will ever return to Shepard. In any game that will follow the trilogy. Even if the new one fails to live up to expectations. I am certain they will rather burry the IP than to fall back on former Characters.

 

The most I hope for, to actually seeing Shepard again, is that they will release a remastered Trilogy and will do the fans that love the trilogy one last, final, solid by adding a short aftermath "DLC" in there with elaborations on the endings. Again... I am dreaming. But that's ok

 

And hey, it seems Jennifer Hale is still involved with Mass Effect, if you tinfoilhat one her tweets. Not as Femshep, because she does tons of other voices, but hey, it's something.

[CaIIisto]

You're hitting the crux of my problem with the end of the game now.

I don't think BW intend to ever use Shepard again either, but equally they don't want to completely burn that bridge in case they need it later on.

Unfortunately, that leaves us in limbo in terms of Shepard.

I would have been a lot happier saying goodbye to Shepard had the epilogue included the character. Hell, in all but one Shep's dead anyway! But no, you can't have that because the next ME might suck and they might need to dust Shepard off again.

There won't be anything in the new game, for the same reason there wasn't anything at the end of ME3. BW don't want to burn that bridge. You could certainly have dependent lines based on the ending choices, but even under the best circumstances I would expect BW to be incredibly vague about Shepard.

I loved the character, and I'd have happily carried on with it through more games, but if it's time to move on, just wrap up the character properly and don't leave them in a situation where the player's left feeling like that great movie they've been watching has had the final five minutes erased.

[InWeirdPeril]

Over the last few days I read a lot of wishes, contributed my own and saw even more worst case scenarios and ideas how the trilogy will be ignored or the setting of the new game will be. While I have my top picks, I wonder how much we actually called, years before it is released or more information is available. I am really curious.

 

And I agree with you. If it is really the moment of truth and they wrap them up for good, wrap them up properly according to the chosen ending.

Though I try to maintain a tiny bit of hope that we'll see Shepard again. Just enough to not get frustrated

[MACH SSR]

I have a lot of hunch that I would get to see Shepard again - just in place of Admiral Hackett.

In my save game I already say that Shep lives - who else was there on the battlefield with a N7 dog collar ? to breath back to life amid rubble ?

Not every soldier is a N7 - the Alliance N7 is similar to Salarian STG,Asari commando,Krogan Aralakh company and Turian Spec ops.On the last battle in London, the only N7s were Shep,Vega and Williams.So if Williams and Vega are on Normandy - then the one waking up in rubble is Shep with Anderson being a martyr.

Now such a legend would be an Admiral anyway and with age would be a big thing in the Allaince parliament post war.
Lets not forget that the Shep who chose destroy option was warned by the Catalyst kid that even synthetic body implants of Shep would be affected.
This would leave us to a weakened Shep who wont carry much punch in battlefields and would be good only for Supreme commanding Alliance head.

Now from a human race which has the power to create husk,repair mass relays , make clones and with help of more advanced aliens capable of controlling a species population - there wont be a second guess if Shep lives over a century and Miranda turns fertile - due to technological progress in medicine.


In the Reaper doctrinated endings of Synthesis (cycle harvested to form new DNA) and Control (Reapers again) - Shepard would be dead,harvested - then in those cases the new game would have negative beginnings just like if Wrex dies on Virmire or the original Rachni queen is dead or if we lose squadmates in ME2 - it chips off the Effective Military strength by and by in ME3 - automatically leading to endings where either Shep is dead or humanity is doomed or galaxy falls under reaper species anyway - the negative cycle repeats itself.


I know ME4 would build algorithms around these only - all Bioware wants is more players who would have the game on their own terms.That would be good for business.

If any Shep had relation with Liara then it would be another new story platform - an Asari lives a 1000 yrs and a human maxes out at 150 yrs even with all tech considered - the situation would be of an Asari off spring with a lot of memories.Seriously - I play a male Shep and consider Liara to be a cool sister.

 

[InWeirdPeril]

In my save game I already say that Shep lives - who else was there on the battlefield with a N7 dog collar ? to breath back to life amid rubble ?
 

 

You can rest easy. If you got the scene, Shepard lives. BW did confirm this.

 

Here you go: http://kotaku.com/59...f-mass-effect-3