Ce sujet est fermé
That being regardless of what model a person prefers I also don't think it is an issue worth throwing a temper tantrum over. I'm not sure why these threads usually end up in lockville.
It usually comes down to the "sexuality is a part of personality" versus "no it isn't" thing.
*Ahem*
Really though?
Ya you've listed 4 games out of... how many that are out there now?? 
I think my qualifier of "almost" stands.
(And I don't normally count Sims in the same category as something like DA or ME)
We've got loads of guys in the Cullen thread.
Pretty pumped since I usually only play m/m and f/f romances
But pretty bummed for my fellow Cullenites
I don't like 2/2/2 because that means the one I want to romance might be only available to me if i play a certain gender. I experienced that with Alistair, and it sucked. Never again, please.
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that no guys are into Cullen, platonically or romantically. I'm sure I would romance Cullen, myself, on at least one play-through, if he were available to male characters.
Origins was a pretty big let down for people wanting m/m or f/f romances, I think. They made most of the romances more even in DA2, I think, but Origins was pretty clearly structured for Alistair and Morrigan to be framed as the "main" LIs. It's pretty harsh that the "main" LIs were also the straight LIs. I really hope that they'll make the "main" romances the bisexual ones if they go 2/2/2 in the future. Well, or just not have "main" ones.
It usually comes down to the "sexuality is a part of personality" versus "no it isn't" thing.
Not really, from all the threads like this I've seen nobody really said it's a part of their personality
Ya you've listed 4 games out of... how many that are out there now??
(And I don't normally count Sims in the same category as something like DA or ME)
Dating Sims are literally everywhere, many of the with deep stories. Go look. And the Sims is definitely up there.
... Elaborate?
Simple, I'd rather a romance, if there needs to be one, which is BioWare's choice by the way, it be tailored towards one set character type, be that gay, lesbian, or otherwise. This whole business with playersexuality is something I don't care about, but I really don't see the logical point to wanting them when what I see in game belongs in a trough. If I have to make it up in my head anyway, what was the point in putting it on my hard drive?
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Ya you've listed 4 games out of... how many that are out there now??
(And I don't normally count Sims in the same category as something like DA or ME)
You said "games". No genre specified. Anyway, the point of this was that your argument is flawed. I don't feel like looking for the myriad of games with romances in them from other companies.
It usually comes down to the "sexuality is a part of personality" versus "no it isn't" thing.
Actually it usually boils down to 'playersexuality cheapens/ruins the character.' Despite the player having control over many other facets of the companions.
Actually it usually boils down to 'playersexuality cheapens/ruins the character.' Despite the player having control over many other facets of the companions.
Aside from leveling, I'd really like to know what these are? Either way, I don't really approve of them.
Aside from leveling, I'd really like to know what these are? Either way, I don't really approve of them.
Well, some range from trivial, like in DAO and now DAI the player gets to decide what the character wears, and what weapons they use, to things that are more substantial. The classic example is Wynne. Despite her established character, she can be forced by the player to boil the blood of her enemies by making her a blood mage.
Thread locked pending cleanup.
Thread reopened.
[moderator Allan]
A few things:
If you feel a poster is trolling, please report the post(s) and do not attempt to antagonize or counter troll. There's a greater chance of you also getting caught in the blast in that case.
Second, I know on the BSN threads that seemed doomed to the close bin often have people enter "sudden spontaneous any topic mode." Please don't do stuff like that.
As a further warning, I have a predisposition to simply revisit threads I have posted in out of habit, so I'll have less tolerance to misbehaviour in this thread if I see more of it, and there's a better chance that I actually WILL see it.
[/moderator Allan]
Allan
Not really, from all the threads like this I've seen nobody really said it's a part of their personality
Actually it usually boils down to 'playersexuality cheapens/ruins the character.' Despite the player having control over many other facets of the companions.
As long as people are afforded an equal amount of choices, I don't care if they do PS or set sexualities, although I would prefer a simple 3/3 playersexual system, assuming there were to be six LI's.
Players having control over many facets of the companions cheapens them.
I disagree in some respects, Maria. So, in combat, making Wynne a blood mage cheapens her? I mean, if we had control over every facet of a character's personality and beliefs, I'd agree, but these characters still are very much real characters outside of the player's dominion.
So, in combat, making Wynne a blood mage cheapens her?
I'd actually argue yes! Haha.
I disagree in some respects, Maria. So, in combat, making Wynne a blood mage cheapens her? I mean, if we had control over every facet of a character's personality and beliefs, I'd agree, but these characters still are very much real characters outside of the player's dominion.
It could be a problem for a characters with set beliefs, if you force them into something opposite. Like, for instance, Anders harping on Merril and all bloodmages around and slicing his wrist in combat. I'm sure you'd make it work in your head canon, but you'd have to work hard to make it believable.
I'd actually argue yes! Haha.
Not that I've actually made her a blood mage haha, but I separate somewhat what a character is capable of in combat versus how they see themselves within the actual story. Forgive me if I sound a tad stupid, I don't normally respond to topics such as these cause I feel out of my depth. Would you feel that Wynne was cheapened, Allan, if she specialized in shapeshifting or became an Arcane Warrior?
Yes, making Wynne a blood mage is an excellent example of something a player should not be able to do. She attacks the PC if you're a blood mage when you first meet her. Her argument for destroying the Anvil of the Void is simply that it's blood magic.
That you're able to just push a button and make her into one undercuts the character.
I thought the companion-only specializations in DA II were a great addition.
Touche, fair point. And I do agree, the DA2 specializations were perfect in that regard.
She attacks the PC if you're a blood mage when you first meet her.
OK I've finished the game with a blood mage more than once, and that never happened to me.
As a pragmatist i favour the Bi/playersexual 2x2 approach because in a world where there are apparently only going to be a very finite amount of resources allocated to romance content i want as much content for individual LI's as well as providing a measure of choice to people based on orientation.
OK I've finished the game with a blood mage more than once, and that never happened to me.
It was cut from the game, but there is (was?) a mod to restore it.
To be on topic- I am 100% down for companions being "playersexual". I romance the companions I like, male or female, but I don't like playing male protagonists. Having the romances be for all versions of the PC is perfect for me.
OK I've finished the game with a blood mage more than once, and that never happened to me.
Retour en haut
