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[Lucy Glitter]

I'm incredibly unsure about this idea from what we know so far. I understand that it is a fantastic way to side-step the save game bugs, but at the same time, can't we upload our save games to The Keep? Every single choice I have made in previous games, are in that save. I personally don't want to know which choices are important to implement into Inquisition, because... doesn't that spoil the plot? It's like when TV shows have the, "previously on..." and then they show specific scenes which just make it obvious what they're going to address in that episode. I DUN WANNAKNOE!! 

 

 

I'm concerned that my Warden/Hawke stories won't feel like they are acknowledged. Of course, we are yet to see how it all works, but I thought i'd put my two cents in there. I hope we can still get the through-line of all three games on a personal level.

 

Gimme ur 2 senses Biowarians!

 

edited a gif in because i did

[Knight of Dane]

No, not really. A bunch of the DA:OA choices that were imported into 2 was never used for anything besides rumors.. I'm not worried.

[tmp7704]

I personally don't want to know which choices are important to implement into Inquisition, because... doesn't that spoil the plot?

I don't feel it really does that -- Telltale's the Wolf Among Us does something similar, highlighting things which may have impact in the future with "NPC X will remember this" notice. The effect is actually positive, if anything, serving as a reminder that what you do matters in the long run... while generally you won't know how these choices will actually matter, so it doesn't really spoil anything.

[Lucy Glitter]

No, not really. A bunch of the DA:OA choices that were imported into 2 was never used for anything besides rumors.. I'm not worried.

 

But it is those things that I enjoy. Without such little nods your past-times can feel a bit forgotten. 

 

edit: I don't want every 2/Origins character to make a cameo, but little mentions can mean a lot.

[Tcab96]

I'm extremely happy about The Keep since this means I won't have to play through both Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age II over and over again to see how or if things change in Dragon Age Inquisition because of my choices.

Hopefully only choices that will actually make a difference will be available for selection in The Keep.

[In Exile]

I'm extremely happy about The Keep since this means I won't have to play through both Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age II over and over again to see how or if things change in Dragon Age Inquisition because of my choices.

Hopefully only choices that will actually make a difference will be available for selection in The Keep.

 

Absolutely agree. The notion that I had to invest 100+ hrs to see what would happen if I didn't give Bhelen the Anvil is absurd. 

[Dead Reckoning]

I think the keep is going to be great.  My only concern is that I am hoping they will find some way to import into the keep a saved game (even if that import isn't entirely accurate).  I have 6 complete saved games that traverse from Origins, Awakening, DA2 and all of the DLC content.  If the keep has as many conditions to meet as that obscure flo chart graph suggests, then I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to remember all of my choices for each character in each game. 

 

Granted, I think some of the game saves may already have inconsistencies created by various bugs in Awakening and DA2.  But I believe the Devs have already suggested that the keep will disallow choices that are in conflict with one another.  So if we can import a saved game as a starting point, then clean up any inconsistencies, and finally decide if we want to keep those original choices or make changes, then it will really speed up the process of importing our characters.

 

However, if that task proves to be impossible to implement, It's not the end of the world.  I enjoyed the variety of adventures that I was able have with different incarnations of my Warden and Hawke.  But sometimes I play my characters a little to similarly.  Being about to "reboot" my previous character's history will hopefully give me a chance to start each game of DAIII with significantly different world states.

[AlanC9]

@ In Exile & Tcab96: Agreed. I liked having the DA2 "No Compromise" pregen background, because it incorporates some choices I'll never actually do in a DAO playthrough.

[Weltea]

But won't/wouldn't bugs make you feel like your Wardens/Hawke's story wasn't acknowledged even more? After all you don't forget (everything) you picked in your playthroughs...

 

Also,while we don't know how the Keep will work, I think you'll just check plotflags for all the mildly or very important choices,which doesn't mean they'll necessarily affect your game. Or at least not in a big way (the Warden being a human mage or a dalish for example also didn't do anthing except give you some dialogue). So you wouldn't really be able to tell anything about Inquisition.

 

And if all fails you could always just click 'OK' or 'Proceed' or whatever the button will say and load your save game into Inquisition without having changed or read any of your choices.

[wright1978]

As long as there's a reasonable depth to the Keep i'll be extremely happy as i see it as a good upgrade on the import functionality which should allow it to go forward across platforms. Obviously if it is so minimalistic that it just references choices that are going to be reflected in DAI i'd be very disappointed.

[Eralrik]

My question is how big will these downloads be from the keep to DA:I and will DA:I need to be online all the time as with most of the recent games that have come out.

 

Because if it needs to be online all the time I'm screwed and if the DL from the keep is bigger than 70 mb's it could be awhile before I could play.

 

I play on PC have no console systems in my house well unless you count that old Nintendo system occasionally like to play Strydor and Bionic Commando, but back to the point my house has High Speed Dial-Up as I live in an Area that Comcast or DSL don't feel needs faster internet.

 

All these games that require and online all the time access is killing my personal gaming time if there are major downloads I have to travel 33 miles to the next town with my labtop and sit at McDonalds to do downloads and updates.

 

Sigh!!

[BubbleDncr]

My only concern if the keep does not import anything from anywhere, if remembering all my playthroughs correctly. I have 4 (now on my 5th) that I've done over the past, what, five years now? As much as I love all my playthroughs, I realised when I tried to list out what I did in each one, I'm not entirely sure anymore. 

 

Otherwise, I like to think that the Keep will ask more questions than they ever actually intend to use in DAI, for 2 reasons: to keep us from guessing which choices they actually will use in DAI, but also so they have them in case they're needed for future DLC/sequels.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I personally don't want to know which choices are important to implement into Inquisition, because... doesn't that spoil the plot?

It would, but you don't know that the Keep will only ask questions that are relevant to Inquisition. It will probably ask every question that was tracked by the DAO and DA2 savegames, plus anything else that might have been important to Inquisition at some point during Inquisition's development.

That's not going to spoil anything.

[Lucy Glitter]

Absolutely agree. The notion that I had to invest 100+ hrs to see what would happen if I didn't give Bhelen the Anvil is absurd. 

 

But... I did this... 

 

I think the keep is going to be great.  My only concern is that I am hoping they will find some way to import into the keep a saved game (even if that import isn't entirely accurate).  I have 6 complete saved games that traverse from Origins, Awakening, DA2 and all of the DLC content.  If the keep has as many conditions to meet as that obscure flo chart graph suggests, then I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to remember all of my choices for each character in each game. 

 

Granted, I think some of the game saves may already have inconsistencies created by various bugs in Awakening and DA2.  But I believe the Devs have already suggested that the keep will disallow choices that are in conflict with one another.  So if we can import a saved game as a starting point, then clean up any inconsistencies, and finally decide if we want to keep those original choices or make changes, then it will really speed up the process of importing our characters.

 

However, if that task proves to be impossible to implement, It's not the end of the world.  I enjoyed the variety of adventures that I was able have with different incarnations of my Warden and Hawke.  But sometimes I play my characters a little to similarly.  Being about to "reboot" my previous character's history will hopefully give me a chance to start each game of DAIII with significantly different world states.

 

That's a fair point.

 

My only concern if the keep does not import anything from anywhere, if remembering all my playthroughs correctly. I have 4 (now on my 5th) that I've done over the past, what, five years now? As much as I love all my playthroughs, I realised when I tried to list out what I did in each one, I'm not entirely sure anymore. 

 

Otherwise, I like to think that the Keep will ask more questions than they ever actually intend to use in DAI, for 2 reasons: to keep us from guessing which choices they actually will use in DAI, but also so they have them in case they're needed for future DLC/sequels.

 

Isn't that part of the fun? You'll see little mentions (hopefully) and be like, "OH YEAH"... or not. Iunno.

 

It would, but you don't know that the Keep will only ask questions that are relevant to Inquisition. It will probably ask every question that was tracked by the DAO and DA2 savegames, plus anything else that might have been important to Inquisition at some point during Inquisition's development.

That's not going to spoil anything.

 

 

SYLVIUS! Still logic'ing around, I see. What does that mean.

 

I hope that is the case. I really do. That would calm all my concerns to a mute.

[Fast Jimmy]

SYLVIUS! Still logic'ing around, I see. What does that mean.

 

I hope that is the case. I really do. That would calm all my concerns to a mute.

 

This is the case. Devs have said that there will be choices the Keep asks you about that will not show any sort of refernce for DA:I. They are going to ask you everything they use in the game, plus more. And they said that if by chance there weren't questions in the Keep when DA:I comes out that covered a certain topic, but they want to cover it in, say, the fourth DA game, they could add it into the Keep later on.

 

Meaning they will be asking lots of questions, even questions that don't matter to DA:I. And if something isn't captured in the Keep now (and, therefore, won't have any DA:I reference), they could still add such questions later down the line if they felt it would be something they would need to use or build on.

 

 

 

 

Personally, I'd imagine that once the Keep becomes live, there may be a group of dedicated web stalkers who take notes on the choices on the Keep and when/if any changes are made, so that fan speculation can say things like "Bioware added a question about if you sided with Jowan or reported him to the High Enchanter during the DA:O Mage Origin! OMGZAZORS, JOWAN FOR LI IN DA4!!!"

 

 

Or something along those lines.

[AppealToReason]

I have a hard time imagining anything but peripherals will be impacted. It'll likely just add to the "white noise" in the game.

[In Exile]

But... I did this... 

 

 

Not saying there's anything wrong with doing it, just that I'd like not to do it. 

[smoke and mirrors]

Does anyone know if you can change the info in the keep if you wanted say to change who you sided with at Orzammar inbetween play thru`s ?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Didn't they say some things in Keep you will choose won't even affect Inquisition but may affect future installments? If so, you still don't know which of the things you chose will show up in Inquisition thus preserving the surprise.

[AlanC9]

My question is how big will these downloads be from the keep to DA:I and will DA:I need to be online all the time as with most of the recent games that have come out.

Because if it needs to be online all the time I'm screwed and if the DL from the keep is bigger than 70 mb's it could be awhile before I could play.

This seems inconceivable. There isn't that much data that needs to be passed down.

[AlanC9]

Does anyone know if you can change the info in the keep if you wanted say to change who you sided with at Orzammar inbetween play thru`s ?

Sure. The whole point of the keep is to be able to review and edit that sort of thing.

[In Exile]

Does anyone know if you can change the info in the keep if you wanted say to change who you sided with at Orzammar inbetween play thru`s ?

 

The way it apparently works is that you get to create a savefile. So this is possible. There was talk a while, while back of the browser saving your choices so you could modify a template, but this was all around the time the Keep was announced. We'll presumably know more closer to release? 

[Fizzie Panda]

Didn't they say we'll they're looking for ways to import saves into the keep? Just because we haven't heard anything doesn't mean it won't exist. They did the same thing with Qunari being playable, they didn't showcase it until they were 100% sure they could make that into the final product.

[Nashiktal]

I'm neutral leaning towards happy. My only concern is whether or not we can alter our story decisions I daI if we have no internet access. If that is a yes I don't see a downside other the. Having to take the time to build a save.

[smoke and mirrors]

That would be interesting , do you need to have internet access ALL THE TIME or just at the start of your play thru .