Yeah this question has probably been answered before but now you have the privilege of answering it again!
How is blood magic any different from regular magic (other than the fact that it draws power from blood) and why is it so feared even by the less crazy mages that they are so hesitant to use it?
Well, most people have an aversion to slashing their wrists and making deals with evil spirits, the cowards.
Damages the veil.
As for the rest: *Points at Tevinter*.
Well there is that demon thing. I heard they are kind of dangerous.
The demon thing?
Yes, there is the demon thing, along with a great deal of people using other people's blood in their rituals. That might have something to do with. People generally look down on using people as living sacrifices...
But I mean, I still play as a blood mage occasionally.
People fear it because it is used to control other peoples minds. Also, it doesnt require lyrium to use so that means that the Chantry/Circle cant regulate or control it.
Yes, there is the demon thing
Ohhhhhhhh, the demon thing!
along with a great deal of people using other people's blood in their rituals. That might have something to do with. People generally look down on using people as living sacrifices...
Yeah but mages are persecuted whether they are blood mages or not, why should somebody who is already a mage fear using blood magic? Other than the demon thing that nobody has actually elaborated on.
So basically, as far as I'm aware, blood magic requires you to directly contract with a demon in order to gain the specialization. This is shown in Origins where the only way to get the specialization was to make a deal with the desire demon in redcliffe. Yeah, Awakening had a training manual and DA2 had no explanation whatsoever for how Hawke could potentially become a blood mage but I think in the latter's case that was more just time constraints.
Blood magic can make you compel people to do things against their will and make them a thrall of the blood mage. It allows spells to be fueled with life as opposed to mana. There could be a lot of philosophical mumbo-jumbo about that previous sentence but your body needs blood to function and if it's all used up in some magic ritual, you're dead, Zed.
How can this be a serious question?
Perhaps because, you know, they use blood as resource? No? Nothing? That doesn't give you a little hint?
Are those not enough reasons?
Could just be me, but I personally do not like the idea of having to kill people to gain power, even if I was being persecuted. 1) It kinda proves the other side right 2) You are killing people 3) You are killing people on mass for your own gain. I don't think its fear but more being a decent human being who doesn't find it fun to kill people or who doesn't see their life as more important than the people they will be killing.
The demon thing would be where you make a deal with a demon or become more easily possessed by them, usually leading to full possession, turning into an abomination, and then mass slaughter. I think that's what people mean.
Yeah but mages are persecuted whether they are blood mages or not, why should somebody who is already a mage fear using blood magic? Other than the demon thing that nobody has actually elaborated on.
What is there to elaborate on? Anyone who has played the Dragon Age games should instantly know what the demon thing entails.
So basically, as far as I'm aware, blood magic requires you to directly contract with a demon in order to gain the specialization.
Has that ever been explicitly stated? I mean the fact that the Warden can learn the specialization from a book and Hawke already has that knowledge stored away in an unused portion of his brain that becomes re-activated when points are pumped into the spec should be evidence to the contrary, didn't Jowan gain his knowledge on the subject from a book as well?
How can this be a serious question?
Perhaps because, you know, they use blood as resource? No? Nothing? That doesn't give you a little hint?
What do you think would be the estimated body count for the Warden and/or Hawke? Not sure why you would be fine with killing people but draw the line at using their blood to fuel your spells.
How can this be a serious question?
Perhaps because, you know, they use blood as resource? No? Nothing? That doesn't give you a little hint?
- Uses blood as resource and even without any evidence I think we can say that people in Ferelden dislike being cut up so a mage could cast a spell.
- Easier to take over by demons in the Fade and turned into abominations which take several Templars to kill.
- Can control other people including important politicians making the mage able to control entire countries to do things such as kill people, start wars and worse.
Are those not enough reasons?
Yes those are reasons somebody might fear a blood mage however considering that even the non-blood mages are just as feared and persecuted why should mages themselves fear using blood magic? All mages are at risk of being possessed by demons, this is not something that is unique to blood mages.
I think it probably started with the hatred of it due to Tevinter. However, it wasn't actually established as forbidden until one of the Divines was asked what magic was forbidden. Her response was to formulate a logically questionable reading of the Chant that interpreted "Magic exists to serve man and never to rule over him" as forbidding Mind Control where I'm pretty sure it means "Don't bully people with sorcery in any way." She further interprets "Those who bring harm to the least of his people are branded and accursed by the Maker" as a far more limited "Don't hurt people to fuel your own magic" when there's a whole lot of other things that should be on that list alongside it. (Not all of them magical.) Now, those two forbidden techniques don't add up to all Blood Magic, but the Divine seems to have either pretended or believed that it did.
There's other reasons that have been found for Blood Magic to be hated. So far as I'm aware you can't summon demons with anything else (though again not all blood magic is summoning demons), and people believe you literally need to speak to a demon to learn it. (Wrongly, I think, since Jowan is implied to have read up on it.)
So far as I'm aware you can't summon demons with anything else (though again not all blood magic is summoning demons)
So it is not that blood magic itself inherently makes a mage more susceptible to demon possession but more that these mages are willingly consorting with demons putting themselves at risk?
So it is not that blood magic itself inherently makes a mage more susceptible to demon possession but more that these mages are willingly consorting with demons putting themselves at risk?
The Chantry claims that it does. I'm uncertain whether that's actually true. Bear in mind that this is a setting where the Chantry by design doesn't have all the answers. (They also claim that Blood Magic de facto causes you to be evil no matter why you use it, which we have from Word Of Gaider is false. On the other hand, it's not like I can't see where they got confused: most Blood Mages seem to indicate that this is true, and nobody can remember that correlation is not causation.)
Edit: Now that I think about it, I remember reading that as per World Of Thedas Blood Magic does tend to thin the Veil, which makes it easier for demons to cross. On the other hand, I don't remember reading whether that's because of the Blood Magic itself (in which case this is innately a bad idea, though there can still be threats bad enough to justify it) or because of the pain and death that blood magic tends to cause (in which case just opening your hand isn't a problem.)
So it is not that blood magic itself inherently makes a mage more susceptible to demon possession but more that these mages are willingly consorting with demons putting themselves at risk?
Using blood magic weaken the Veil making it easier for demons to go through and possess people. It's also a more powerful form of magic and demons are attracted to power.
Using blood magic weaken the Veil making it easier for demons to go through and possess people. It's also a more powerful form of magic and demons are attracted to power.
So basically blood mages are to blame for the events of Inquisition?
So basically blood mages are to blame for the events of Inquisition?
There have always been blood mages. The Elvenhad were blood mages. Nearly all tevinter mages are blood mages. I doubt a little increase in blood magic would cause all that fuss, I say it's something bigger.
Anyway, to summarize:
-it allows to use the life force of others to power spells
-it weakens the veil
-it allows mind control
-it corrupts the mind of those who use it and make them more susceptible to demonic possession (Experience in game but no true reason given. I don't think blood magic is to blame directly for this, it's power. Blood magic gives power. Power corrupts weak minds on its own. Mix it with blood magic and we get Kirkwall).
So basically blood mages are to blame for the events of Inquisition?
There is a good chance that blood magic is involved, doesn't necessarily take blood mages though.
So basically blood mages are to blame for the events of Inquisition?
Some blood mages probably are. Anyone amoral enough to do this would probably find some use for the power blood magic can provide, and that's without factoring in the fact that this would probably require blood magic to pull off anyway.
So basically blood mages are to blame for the events of Inquisition?
Not necessarily. Killing things also weakens the Veil. So a large scale war could do it.
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