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[Neon Rising Winter]

You ever try to get a blood stain out of your clothes? Blood mages could bankrupt a country with how much cleaning bills people would have.

Cold water's very good for blood stains. There must be a spell for that, something elemental?

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I wonder, blood mages still get fatigued lore wise do they? Casting spells always strains the user? Or if there 1000 slaves to cut open, a blood mage can cast spells for days non-stop? 

That sounds more like D&D than DA. Even a blood mage still needs to eat. (At least in this setting.)

[Cainhurst Crow]

Cold water's very good for blood stains. There must be a spell for that, something elemental?

But it's fueled by blood magic, the cold water just turns into blood.

Fish blood. So it smells even worse.

[DooomCookie]

Maybe if Blood Mages were more... musically inclined there'd be less of a stigma. 

*snip*

 

I laughed at that rather hard.  Everything about it is precious: Irving's reaction, Lily's mouth, Jowan's arms...

[Topsider]

Chantry propaganda!

 

Blood magic certainly looks dangerous when used against you (so many lunatics in DA2) but using it yourself is very underwhelming. My apostate Hawke dabbled for a while, was unimpressed, then quickly respecced to a force mage. I think the games have so far failed to demonstrate why learning blood magic is potentially bad. Not enough power, not enough risk involved. Just another form of magic, except powered by blood. The demonic stuff is nowhere to be seen after its acquisition. 

 

I hope one of the party members know, or can learn blood magic, because I'm not playing a mage in DAI. 

 

 

[KainD]

That sounds more like D&D than DA. Even a blood mage still needs to eat. (At least in this setting.)

Well obviously, but does casting using blood still put any strain on the user?

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Well obviously, but does casting using blood still put any strain on the user?

 

Besides blacking out from blood loss, you mean?

[TheJediSaint]

Besides blacking out from blood loss, you mean?

 

Hence why there's always the temptation to use other people's blood.

[Exaltation]

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well obviously, but does casting using blood still put any strain on the user?

Well...

 

[Rosey]

Well...

 

 This made me spit out my coffee. Thanks.

 

 

 

As for why Blood Magic is bad is mostly because you can only bleed all over the place while fueling your magic for so long before you decide to stab the guy next to you instead of yourself.

 

I mean, take away the demons and the whole "violence and killing thin the veil" things. I mean even take away the mind crontrol spells that REQURE bloodmagic to even work...

 

And you STILL have that whole: "Hey cutting my own wrists weakens me and leaves really ugly ****** scars and yanno what? *DAGGER TO YOUR BEST FRIEND* You don't mind if I barrow some of your blood do you?"

 

So yeah, Blood magic is pretty bad news in that it eventually leads you to use other folks to fuel spells rather then your own blood... and eventually moves right into tevinter levels.

[azarhal]

I don't think we really know that. One theory is the Forbidden ones did it, another is that the Old Gods did it, and I think I remember reading that there's some speculation the elves invented it.

 

We have codex entries that claims that Magisters learned blood magics from:

- Dumat

- The Forbidden Ones

- The Elves of Arlathan (I don't remember the entry for this one, sorry).

 

The thing is, all three might actually be true. Nothing stop the Elves of dealing with the Forbidden Ones and everyone learning blood magic at the same time from them. And Dumat could be the name of a Forbidden One in Tevinter...

[KainD]

Besides blacking out from blood loss, you mean?

 

Hence why there's always the temptation to use other people's blood.

 

Well...

 

*snip*

 

I said if a person has 1000 fresh slaves to use at their disposal. Does the use of blood magic strain the user according to lore if they don't use their own blood? 

Does mage perhaps still have to use just a little bit of mana to initiate the use of a blood magic power spell? Again not gameplay. 

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

I said if a person has 1000 fresh slaves to use at their disposal. Does the use of blood magic strain the user according to lore if they don't use their own blood? 

Does mage perhaps still have to use just a little bit of mana to initiate the use of a blood magic power spell? Again not gameplay. 

 

It's not spelled out anywhere, if that's what you're asking. About the only thing I can point to is Jowan sacrificing Isolde in DA:O. That definitely shows Jowan casting a spell over Isolde before blood spurts from both her and the person going into the Fade. You don't see Jowan draw his own blood, but the cutscene doesn't seem to begin at the time 

Personally I'd assume the mage must be using a bit of his/her own mana and/or blood to be a part of the spell, enough to establish a link and exert control if they're the one doing the casting. But if you're looking for lore to back that up I can't think of any offhand. 

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Blood magic is like the darkside, not evil in itself but can cause it's user to do more corrupt & nasty things with the power it grants.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Blood magic is like the darkside, not evil in itself but can cause it's user to do more corrupt & nasty things with the power it grants.

The Dark Side I think really is innately evil.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

The Dark Side I think really is innately evil.

Id just call it a tool rather then call it evil.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Id just call it a tool rather then call it evil.

Except that I think the Dark Side is a sentient part of all life that drives those who draw on it to evil while giving them power best suited to it. I can't think how that's not evil.

 

Blood magic gives powers that an evil person would have a lot more use for than a good one, but the lore is pretty clear that it's neither sapient nor inherently corrupting except insofar as it's more useful to corrupt people. Therefore the two best arguments that the Dark Side is truly evil don't really work for Blood Magic.

[KreatorWrex]

The Dark Side isn't inherently evil, only the one who uses it. Is the Dark Side evil, no, is Palpatine evil, yes. Blood magic does allow you to control others' minds, as well as summon demons and abominations, but beyond that, there is nothing evil about it. Blood magic isn't evil, only the people who use it can be called evil, and even then, you can still be evil and not use blood magic.

[ChaosMorning]

Manipulation of the mind, the use of blood (often not the mage's own blood), the fact that the more violent the means the more powerful the blood magic spell is, tearing the Veil due to the nature of said actions, dealing with demons, subsequent greater risks for demonic possession...

[BouncyFrag]

I honestly don't care if blood magic is good, bad, evil, whatever,etc... What I don't like is the idea of doing this the entire game. Yuck!

 

Blood magic isn't exactly the poster child for quality cleanliness and hygiene. Just ask Merrill.

 

 

 

[Saints]

Dem hands... *Shutters*

[Grieving Natashina]

Dem hands... *Shutters*

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