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I just don't get why there's a issue at all. Just romance the fictional character that you like in a fictional universe that doesn't have to follow the irl social norms.
I guess that's why I like "playersexuality." Your game = your fun.
Same.
I would prefer to be dumped for my character just being a disgusting or completely anti whatever they stand for person. But that can coexist quite nicely with all Lis being open to all PCs.
The difference is, such as I have had it explained, that Bisexual people care about gender and Pansexual don't.
So, Bisexuals like girls for their gilry bits and guys for their manly parts and Pansexuals are indifferent.
Bisexuality is a sexuality. The one and only thing it means is that a person gets aroused by both sets of genitals. If it meant something else it wouldn't be a sexuality.
In my ideal I would like the companions to all be playersexual, although perhaps that would not be best storywise.
I'd rather there not be any LI at all if they are gonna make them all bi again.
I think some people should watch this. It's not perfect, but it's a pretty good overview of sex, gender, and sexuality.
I don't hate on anyone, but I don't understand crap about what he is talking about.
An example is gender identity that he separates from sex, which for me is one and the same.
I understand only straight/gay/bi, that's it. Lol.
This is a topic about definitions not opinions on what you want for the LIs in DAI. If you havnt got something relating to the topic don't post it. That's goes to you to pinkdiamondstl.In my ideal I would like the companions to all be playersexual, although perhaps that would not be best storywise.
I am dragonagesexual
This is a topic about definitions not opinions on what you want for the LIs in DAI. If you havnt got something relating to the topic don't post it. That's goes to you to pinkdiamondstl.
Watch the tone top-hat...
The sexualities have been explained to you.So your silly little thread needs to either fall to page 2 or be locked.
Well some people are still discussing the definitions so I disagree. Now do you have anything constructive to add or was that it?Watch the tone top-hat...
The sexualities have been explained to you.So your silly little thread needs to either fall to page 2 or be locked.
I may be absolutely horribly wrong about this, but from what I understand, a person's 'Sex' and a person's 'Gender' are separate:I don't hate on anyone, but I don't understand crap about what he is talking about.
An example is gender identity that he separates from sex, which for me is one and the same.
I understand only straight/gay/bi, that's it. Lol.
I am dragonagesexual
You must be used to a pretty good time followed by embarrassing disappointment in bed then.
Is it just me or are the different kinds or sexualties being called out in BSN starting to get confusing? Okay I understand hetero, bi and homosexuality perfectly well but some of the different(?) kinds of sexualities mentioned here have been confusing me. I think I start to understand one and then someone gives me a completely different definition. So could someone please just give me definitions for:
- playersexual
- pansexual
- omnisexual
Note: I don't think I should have to mention this but while it's fine to debate the definitions in this topic, please, please, please don't argue over which system is better. Is that too hard BSN?
My first answer is probably not going to be as diplomatic as it should be.
Playersexual means that the NPC will desire the PC-protag regardless of gender, sexual orientation, or any other factor (such as appearance, class, race, spec, background, etc.)
BTW, since people pretty much ignore everything other than sexual orientation and gender in having this discussion, it usually ends up becoming a name for bisexuals who did not do whatever the person feels would have been necessary to pre-indicate or pre-demonstrate their bisexual nature, before the player apparently "surprisedly" discovers they like both males and females (possibly on a 2nd play through).
A pansexual or omnisexual would want to have sex with everything, presumably including all kinds of horribly taboo things. Really not relevant to the discussion at all. DA doesn't have any.
Granted this information comes from my Psychology lessons back in high school so I may be wrong - in which case please do correct me.
You are absolutely correct. Sex is based on primary and secondary sexual characteristics, which in turn are based on your chromosomes. It's biological.
Gender is a cultural role, which you learn from agents of socialization - the process is gender role socialization. It is where you learn what your society considers appropriate or inappropriate for men and women, such as clothing, activities, occupations -- etc, etc.
BTW, there is no intrinsic link between your sexual orientation and your gender or transgender behavior - folk beliefs to the opposite, notwithstanding. "Sissies" (men who act more feminine) are not more likely to be gay, nor are "tomboys" (women who act in ways that are considered more masculine).
About that, Bi, Pan, Omni....etc are almost all the same. It is not about being attracted to this or that gender or not, it is about what people think that suits them better. A bi person can be attract to any gender and gender fluid persons and even be attracted to one gender more than any other.
Also people do change sometimes and move on the spectrum and some stay in the extremes all their lives.
About the characters on Dragon Age, since I am not the writers I cannot tell for certain which is more close to our concepts or not. But in my mind, for example Isabela could care less. Merrill is probably demisexual. Anders is bi at that moment but have a tendency to date guys more. Fenris is aromantic and so on.
I mean the game does not need labels because there is no definitions in the world of Thedas but the writers can elaborate on QA more sure, if they want.
Sorry for attempting to contribute. Yea maybe I was a bit off topic. But still...
Some of my own views as a player...
From my perspective, I consider NPC's as PC centric in regards to romance: Meaning that that are none of the above unless otherwise confirmed.
In regards to Merrill, for example, and based on her farewell in DAO (if you played a Dalish Elf) suggests she and your character had a close relationship. It could be a close friendship, or it could be because she and your character could have been romantically involved (no matter gender). There is nothing there to suggest either way, other than they were close: there is no distinction either way.
What I dislike about these kinds of distinctions that are often made by some that is based the metadata (knowing that a particular NPC can be romanced by either gender) is is that it is often used to describe a NPC as Bi-Sexual as opposed to a PC centric observation. If you play through the game as a female PC (without using metadata), and romance Merrill, as an example, your current female character has no knowledge as to whether or not she is straight or bi-sexual, although as a player you may know that she can be romanced by either gender: that DOES NOT, make her bi-sexual.
Lelliana is another example. If you play a male character, she states that she is bi-sexual, but that does not make it true for a female PC.
Morrigan is yet another example. If the PC is a male character, she warms up to your PC quite readily. The ONLY confirmation one would have that she is straight, however, relies on metadata learned from playing both genders on separate plays through the game (or from reading the forums).
To simply state that an undeclared NPC is bi-sexual, gay, lesbian, etc. is a falsehood: the available romances.
So, what I ask for in this discussion, is for people not to place labels on a given NPC character regarding their sexuality based on metadata: as always, romances in BioWare games have always been PC centric rather than some perceived lifestyle based based on knowledge your PC does not have.
In other words: The PC's perspective prevails over metadata.
About that, Bi, Pan, Omni....etc are almost all the same. It is not about being attracted to this or that gender or not, it is about what people think that suits them better. A bi person can be attract to any gender and gender fluid persons and even be attracted to one gender more than any other.
Also people do change sometimes and move on the spectrum and some stay in the extremes all their lives.
About the characters on Dragon Age, since I am not the writers I cannot tell for certain which is more close to our concepts or not. But in my mind, for example Isabela could care less. Merrill is probably demisexual. Anders is bi at that moment but have a tendency to date guys more. Fenris is aromantic and so on.
I mean the game does not need labels because there is no definitions in the world of Thedas but the writers can elaborate on QA more sure, if they want.
demisexual?
I get confused by sexuality labels like you, OP. I dream of a possible future where we won't have any at all.
Yeah, even as a gay man who is familiar with queer theory in academia and has volunteered at an LGBT community center, I still get a lot of the sexualities mixed up and confused. I'm good with hetero-, ******-, and bi. Outside of that, it's a bit blurry to me and I'm not really sure if I could apply the label appropriately even if I was given all of the information.
Edited just to clarify that the ***** is obviously the first four letters of the gay "sexual". Not a slur or something. It makes me uncomfortable that it censored that, but I totally get why.
Modifié par daveliam, 12 avril 2014 - 01:35 .
demisexual?
demisexual is the only having sexual attraction to those whom you have a strong emotional connection to
demisexual is the only having sexual attraction to those whom you have a strong emotional connection to
ah, thank you... if the list gets any longer I'm going to have to start writing it down.
ah, thank you... if the list gets any longer I'm going to have to start writing it down.
I'm a member of the LGBTQ community and I occasionally lose track. 
I'm a member of the LGBTQ community and I occasionally lose track.
oh good, I was going to blame me going to public schools.
There is also sexualities for exclusively "feminine" or "masculine" people of any biological sex.
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