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#176
CybAnt1

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When I play games, I personally just think of myself as sort of a reader of the protagonist's tale who has a bit of controls over his/her story and action.
 

 

That's how I feel about most games, of course. I am not Master Chief, I'm just kind of somebody telling him what to do. I am not Duke Nukem, likewise. I am not Sonic the Hedgehog. 

 

I could go on.

 

I like to role-play in roleplaying games. To me, that means thinking of myself as the protagonist. Stepping into their shoes for as long as the game is on. 

 

BTW, I don't consider that obligatory, and don't insist everybody "has to do it that way". At the end of the day, it's your game, you can play it as if your modern self and all your own personal beliefs and opinions were dumped into Thedas, sort of like a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, I just try not to (btw, that doesn't mean I always succeed. My hardest problem is acting upon an alien morality to my own.) 

 

That said, yes, I do think if you're going to call your game a role-playing game, then yes, it needs to accommodate a play style involving ... role-play. Which to RPers means the control needs to be a bit more than a bit. Of course, as always IMHO, and YMMV.  ;)


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#177
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Don't want to be a girl

 

Yes you do!

 

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#178
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I'm a woman and I always play as a woman when possible. I was (and still am) forced to play as a male in so many games, for so many years that I'm just sick of it.  :? If I have a choice, I will always roll female PCs. I never miss out on male content either, as I just watch my hubby or my son's male playthroughs. It's the best of both worlds, IMO. ^_^


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#179
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Alistair and Morrigan(super important plot story characters) were both pushed on you just by talking to them if you were the opposite gender, I never fail to have Alistair interested in me when its the last thing I want(honestly hes my least favorite character with a romance).
 


Alistair and Morrigan are interested in Wardens of the appropriate sex, yep. And they express that interest. Why is this a problem?

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My cannon characters.

Origins Male Human rogue.

DA:II Female Rogue.

Oblivion Female Redgaurd Warrior Tank.

Skyrim Male Imperial Rogue.

Reckoning Female Rogue.

WoW Male Dwarven Hunter.

 

Through out the games I have played most races both sexes equally and nearly all classes. I have never been a fan of Mage classes (just one of my foibles I guess). I like to immerse myself into the character and make the character as far from who I actually am as possible. I really like the escapism of playing someone who is nothing like me.



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jncicesp

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Alistair and Morrigan are interested in Wardens of the appropriate sex, yep. And they express that interest. Why is this a problem?

Just adds better/more content if you're the appropriate gender for them, whether you like it or not.

Was saying gender restrictions are the biggest thing that changes between playing different genders, and if you dont want that content its just assumed you do anyway. 



#182
Sith Grey Warden

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My first RPG was KOTOR, and after playing through as a LS male and a DS male, I figured I might as well play a female just once to see what difference it made. I was blown away. I loved the interactions with Carth as a female, and found that romance to just be far better written than Bastila's. In general, a female PC just seemed to fit better. That said, I vastly preferred playing a male in KOTOR 2 because I greatly prefer having Brianna over Mical in the party.

In DAO, I have a slight preference for female PCs. I've found that I like using the origin stories to create perspectives radically different from my own, but that it's harder to build a different mindset for male PCs. In DA2, I only did two playthroughs, one male, one female.
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#183
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I'm female and I always play male characters.

But then again, I never identify myself as a character I play. Game for me like a book - I create the character I like and watch his adventures. It would be boring to read the book about yourself ;)


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I'm female and I always play male characters.

But then again, I never identify myself as a character I play. Game for me like a book - I create the character I like and watch his adventures. It would be boring to read the book about yourself ;)

I know exactly what you mean. I play both male and female characters for the story that ensues, not to be that character. 


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#185
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You know I never really saw myself as the character on screen.

 

I always try and create a character and watch them go.

Like my "Canon" character is a male city elf...who is nothing like me.

 

I just played it saying "What would this person do I created, in this situation?"

Really though I never quite get the "I CAN NEVER PLAY X" things myself, I mean if you cant you cant I guess. I just never really have had hang ups as to gender or such while playing.

 

Hell my favorite PT in FONV was when I played a Female Courier. 

To each their own.



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Ok personally, I have no problem playing a guy in video games and don't feel uncomfortable doing so ... but to tell the truth, when given the option, I still tend to pick/create female characters. In BioWare games I usually have one playthrough as a male and several playthroughs as a female, simply because ... I'm not even sure. For me, it is a matter of identifying with the character, I guess. My characters are never "me", but I still like to be them for while I play the game ... and it's easier for me to assume the role of a woman, and more satisfying, too. If that makes any sense.  ^_^


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#187
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I know exactly what you mean. I play both male and female characters for the story that ensues, not to be that character.

 
In that regard, I'm the exact opposite. I'm male and have almost exclusively played male characters. For me, a RPG means being the character. I want that immersion, that "What would I do in that situation?". Otherwise, I'd be a director ordering an actor around. (That's also the very same reason I dislike voiced characters. The game becomes an interactive movie.) Playing a female character would break that immersion, for me.

This doesn't mean not giving different characters different backgrounds, upbringings, even making up backstories that are not in the game. But it's always how I would act in that situation...



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I know exactly what you mean. I play both male and female characters for the story that ensues, not to be that character. 

Exactly the same for me, as well.



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There is at least two type of people that engage into various types of entertainment. The ones that project themself onto the characters and those that like to roleplay different people. Of course that, there is a infinite numbers of people who are a mix of these too extremes.

 

I for one do not like to project at all, so you could say that I play for example Skyrim in TPS all the time and it is rare to play in FPS because I do not feel immersion at all on projecting. Of course is always nice to try to do the opposite of what you are comfortable with, as a learning process. 



#190
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Its easier to roleplay as a gender you're familiar with, therefore its more comfortable 

Isn't roleplaying about playing something different then yourself?


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#191
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Isn't roleplaying about playing something different then yourself?

The definition is too broad to just say its about playing something completely different from yourself. In my opinion playing a different race in a different social status is enough to be apart from my actual life while keeping the gender gives me some similarity to my character


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#192
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I can do it. I have a male Mahariel who is my second favorite Warden. However, I'm full up of stories about men, so I will play a woman whenever possible. Had Morrigan been a romance option for female Wardens, my male PC never would have existed. 

 

I mimic this.  If I have the option, I play my gender (female).  I play plenty of games with male PCs (The Witcher) and enjoy them, but I can't get into the character as fully as I can a female. 



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I don't ever really play as myself in any way, I invent a character for the setting and play him or her. I usually play several characters and try out all kinds of different things. This is why I like RPG's (especially bioware) because it allows me to do this. 

 

I used to play females more than males because the female characters tend to look more attractive and males in rpg's are often really overly muscular and bulky and I prefer to play as mages. To me it kinda looked silly having a body builder in robes. But I have grown out that a bit. I will play other classes allot more now and I am less shallow about it. Plus there is more verity in the characters you can create now in some games at least. 



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The definition is too broad to just say its about playing something completely different from yourself. In my opinion playing a different race in a different social status is enough to be apart from my actual life while keeping the gender gives me some similarity to my character

 

Very much this. Simply playing as your own gender is nowhere near the same as a total self-insert. 

 

Regardless, I enjoy doing both - I sometimes create characters who are different from me (race, sexuality, moral outlook etc) and others who are much more similar  - there is enjoyment and roleplaying to be had in either scenario. Usually female, though - like I've said before, a great many games I've played in my life have forced me to play a male protag, therefore when the option of playing female exists I generally take advantage of that because it's a choice I appreciate.


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Back then I use to role play both male & female roles respectively, but nowadays I tend to stick with male. Why? Immersion's sake. I feel more connected with my character versus the contrary. 



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I just never really have had hang ups as to gender or such while playing.

 

Hell my favorite PT in FONV was when I played a Female Courier. 

To each their own.

Call me sexist, but I just can't get into a female lead in an action oriented story. I blame Hollywood for conditioning me that only a chiseled white heartthrob of a male can save the world.


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Call me sexist, but I just can't get into a female lead in an action oriented story. I blame Hollywood for conditioning me that only a chiseled white heartthrob of a male can save the world.

Personally i can see a female authority but its easy and understandable to see why many couldnt with film and history rarely showing this, especially in medieval history where you dont find a lot of female leaders as involved as most male leaders when it comes to military oriented issues. 


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Call me sexist, but I just can't get into a female lead in an action oriented story. 

 

This isn't sexist, I've seen a lot of female gamers here saying exactly the same or that kind of stuff about the male protagonist.


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This isn't sexist, I've seen a lot of female gamers here saying exactly the same or that kind of stuff about the male protagonist.

Well, that's good to know I'm not the only one being mind controlled by the mainstream media :lol:



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What I meant, is that some don't hesitate saying that they can't stand the male lead regardless of their reasons. You have yours, don't be ashamed. 


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