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#201
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Like a lot of people here, I relish the chance to play a female character when I can.  They aren't always like me; sometimes they are like Boudicca or Elanor of Aquitaine or Portia or Princess Leia's Even More Sarcastic Sister.   Just because we share a gender doesn't mean the PC is a self-insert.

 

Although, I rebel a bit when I'm playing L4D or Borderlands -- I was relegated to the female characters once too often, because, you know, girl.  So I started insisting that I should get to handle a shotgun once in a while.  Or a sniper rifle.  Or a machine gun.  My mates got the idea; we take it in turns now.  It's good; we all get a turn with all the characters, and I don't feel so bad about the times when I am a walking cliche, actually enjoying being the healer in MMOs like SWTOR.


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The definition is too broad to just say its about playing something completely different from yourself. In my opinion playing a different race in a different social status is enough to be apart from my actual life while keeping the gender gives me some similarity to my character

But limiting what you play as limit how far you roleplay. Similarity should not be an issue.

 

It would be like playing nothing put black characters because I don't under stand how other races think.  Hell, playing another gender can broaden your perspective.


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But limiting what you play as limit how far you roleplay. Similarity should not be an issue.

 

It would be like playing nothing put black characters because I don't under stand how other races think.  Hell, playing another gender can broaden your perspective.

I think you got the wrong idea of what i was trying to say. I dont refuse to play female characters, in fact i have plans for making a female qunari Blood Mage, i just feel more comfortable using a male therefore i tend to be male about 80% of the time.



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When I play an RPG I never imagine that the character is me. I'm not the one running around battling dragons or shooting aliens or whatever; the character I'm playing as is. No different to when I play other types of games. I'm not Joel or Ellie; I'm not Cole MacGrath. I'm not Master Chief or Lara Croft or Ezio or Booker or any number of characters. Gaming is just a way for me to experience these characters and their story, no different to books or films or shows. 

 

Because I don't see the character as my own personal self insert I've never had an issue playing a character that is female, a race other than caucasian or who is gay. With RPGs I see it as a sort of pick your own story type of thing, like having a book custom writ to appeal just to me. Maybe I feel like experiencing a story with a straight white male who is a paragon of virtue as he goes on his quest to save the world from Darkspawn, and so I make the choices that let me experience that story. But maybe I want to play as a racist sheElf who's not afraid to kick puppies if she's paid a few gold coins, so I make the choices that take the story down that route. Kicking puppies for money isn't a choice I would ever make in real life, but it's the story I want to experience in the game, so I make that choice in game; just like how I'd make a lot of different decisions to the protagonists in various books, films and shows, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to read/watch and enjoy those things.  


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I play as both genders but I always have more female characters than male (4-1 in origins for example). There are so much more male protags in video games that when I get a chance to play as female I will.

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I think you got the wrong idea of what i was trying to say. I dont refuse to play female characters, in fact i have plans for making a female qunari Blood Mage, i just feel more comfortable using a male therefore i tend to be male about 80% of the time.

I understand that but comfort can be a crutch with roleplaying.



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When I play an RPG I never imagine that the character is me. 

 

I would invert your statement. I don't imagine that the character is me; for as long as the game is on, I simply imagine that I am him/her. What would it be like to see their world from their perspective. Then make decisions and statements based on how they would react to situations, given who they are (not who I am). 

 

That to me is roleplaying. 

 

Please note, I am not a Hardcore Hipster Elitist ™ who insists that is the only way to play a CRPG, or who looks down on people who don't see things that way. It's your game, you don't have to agree with this philosophy.

 

And, BTW, I rather like being able to imagine being female, just as I like being able to imagine I am a qunari, or imagine I am a warrior, as I am none of those things IRL.  :)


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I understand that but comfort can be a crutch with roleplaying.

You're basing that on your own definition of what roleplaying is, your definition is different than mine



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You're basing that on your own definition of what roleplaying is, your definition is different than mine

Well, technically roleplaying is playing a character that isn't you. >.> I mean, the general definition is "to act out a role". So it's about acting/thinking in the role of another.



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Well, technically roleplaying is playing a character that isn't you. >.> I mean, the general definition is "to act out a role". So it's about acting/thinking in the role of another.

So wouldnt playing a qunari warrior be enough to fit that definition? Apparently to this person it has to be completely different in every aspect or else its not completely "roleplaying" in my opinion thats not true


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So wouldnt playing a qunari warrior be enough to fit that definition? Apparently to this person it has to be completely different in every aspect or else its not completely "roleplaying" in my opinion thats not true

It could, sure. I mean, roleplaying takes different extents for different people. Some people are not comfortable slipping into a different skin, so to speak, which is within their right. 

I'd definitely think you could come to enjoy it, if you took small steps into different personalities, but you don't have to ever reach that path. ^.^



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It could, sure. I mean, roleplaying takes different extents for different people. Some people are not comfortable slipping into a different skin, so to speak, which is within their right. 

I'd definitely think you could come to enjoy it, if you took small steps into different personalities, but you don't have to ever reach that path. ^.^

Thats my point lol, the person i was talking to said comfort is a crutch for roleplaying, implying that if you're not going all out then thats not fully roleplaying. Im saying that thats not how everyone views it.



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Thats my point lol, the person i was talking to said comfort is a crutch for roleplaying, implying that if you're not going all out then thats not fully roleplaying. Im saying that thats not how everyone views it.

That happens a lot. lol. You just roll with it and know that you enjoying playing the way you do. 


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I think a large influence for me is also how much I enjoy the VAs.  I far preferred Fem Hawke's VA to Male Hawke's VA.  Similarily, I far preferred FShep's VA when playing renegade but MShep's VA I find about equal to FShep for paragon.  If I really like the Female VA I'll probably do all the races as a female first before I switch.



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As a male I have allways played only as male (and all races). Only recently I have tried to play as a female for a different perspective. Which I kind of enjoy. I am quite sure though that I will never play as a gay character.

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Yeah, ultimately, who cares how other people role-play.  It's a single player game.  I personally think it's odd that so many people only want to play as a human when there are other races available.  It's not for me (I have only played a single human playthrough in DA: O and have no intentions to play a human in DA: I), but I would never tell other people that they are limiting their experiences by only being human.  It's the same with gender.  If people feel comfortable with one gender over the other, then playing that gender enhances their experience. 


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I don't have any problem with playing as either male or female with whatever sexual orientation. In general (for human characters), I choose my starting character based on whatever looks ok and other considerations such as voice acting and different content. If I have time, I might play as the complete opposite in subsequent playthroughs.

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I honestly never even think about the main character's sex until I'm ready to play the game. I sometimes speculate what I might play as, but until I have the game in my hands it will likely change a few times. I usually play around with both options in the character creator until I feel like I see someone right for the story who I can identify with. I don't even have a preference in that regard and have never had any issue identifying with the protagonist whether they are female/male/whatever. I like to project myself into the story, but my character's sex has never really deterred me from doing that. Whenever I see these topics, they fascinate me.

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I'm a guy, but in these fantasy RPGs, I tend to play more as female characters.  whereas in other games, like the WWE games, I only create male characters.

 

so, it depends.

 

in general, I like strong female characters, so in fantasy type games, I like role playing as a female character.

 

it also depends on how easy it is to make a good looking character in the creator.  I DAO, it was MUCH easier for me to create an attractive female than a handsome guy.

 

Also, it depends on who the LIs are and who I find more interesting.  If the male LIs are more interesting, I might be more apt to create a female character and vice versa if I find the female LIs more interesting.



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Depends. In a game like Dragon Age or SW:TOR I play mostly female characters (my profile pic is a proof of that). But then again I don't play fantasy games where female armour means "Less is more powerful".

 

If it comes to MMS (modern military shooters) it gets kinda amusing. *cough* Like Battlefield 4 where suddenly (never played it) that woman pops up and fights with you some time. Not that women couldn't fight a modern or real war (Soviets proved that cliché wrong long ago) but just the fact that there isn't a single army on this planet that has women in their special forces. Because you can't overcome the aversion between genders when it comes to "being a tight knit unit that works like a single person".

Additionally the ratio of women in actual combat units in non-conscripted armies is so extremely low, that it simply doesn't matter. So when suddenly you can play a female character in a setting like Battlefield or Call of Duty it simply gets ridiculous, no matter how much gamers want that. 

 

You either want to depict a real setting (Battlefield). Then make it real. Or you do not (e.g. Dragon Age). Then set your own rules. 

 

 

P.S.: Before I forget it: I'm one of the typical white male, end-twenties gamers. So as some people said: I'm part of the target group for video games...



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You're basing that on your own definition of what roleplaying is, your definition is different than mine

What? Role playing means playing a role as a character. What different meaning is there?



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Thats my point lol, the person i was talking to said comfort is a crutch for roleplaying, implying that if you're not going all out then thats not fully roleplaying. Im saying that thats not how everyone views it.

That's not what I mean. I'm saying using the not comfortable excuse is an empty excuse. I'm not saying you have to play as a female or something different to roleplay. It just that the mind set you are using is limiting how you roleplay.



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That's not what I mean. I saying using the not comfortable excuse is an empty excuse. I'm not saying you have to play as a female or something different to roleplay. It just that the mind set you are using is limiting how you roleplay.

How is it limiting if I do play as female characters occasionally? Better yet, why does how I play RPG's matter to you so much?
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How is it limiting if I do play as female characters occasionally? Better yet, why does how I play RPG's matter to you so much?

That's the $64,000 question for the BSN.


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#225
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I tend to play either more effeminate men or masculine women in games where I can customize the character. It's only been pointed out to me recently. But choice of gender is usually. 50/50 and just depends on what I feel like at the time. My canon wardens are a Male Mahariel who hates everything shemlen, and a female Amell who's a bit of a know it all.