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CuriousArtemis

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Advisor: "Inquisitor, I need to ask an important favour of you. Go to *insert area* and rescue my *insert item* from the *insert enemy*"

 

DAI mad libs!! This could get kinda dirty, ya know...

 

Possibly because I read this as "insert my..."  Insert your what, Cullen?


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DAI mad libs!! This could get kinda dirty, ya know...

 

Seriously.  When we start filling in blanks and inserting things around here, it can get real....interesting:P


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I'm hoping that they will be able to escort us to important locations, even if they can't fight with us, and I hope they'd have a few companion-style quests too :)

This suddenly makes me imagine that Cullen follows you around so he can stand on the sidelines and hold your purse during a fight! :lol:
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I once tried to romance Anders on my second playthrough, I am unsure if it was because I knew what was coming, or if it was something else, but sh!t just got weird around Act 2, so I nope'd the hell out of there.

 

Me, too!  I actually ughed aloud when he grabbed my Hawke to kiss her.  I went ahead and deleted that playthrough.  I just couldn't do it.



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Me, too!  I actually ughed aloud when he grabbed my Hawke to kiss her.  I went ahead and deleted that playthrough.  I just couldn't do it.

 

Aww lol Poor Anders :lol: Maybe you just have to play the right kind of Hawke with him. My Xander Hawke was very... energetic... to say the least. He was like a puppy around Anders. And he always used the sarcastic lines throughout the romance, which I think Anders found to be rather endearing lol



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I miss DA:A Anders. In truth, that's the only reason I romanced him.
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Me, too!  I actually ughed aloud when he grabbed my Hawke to kiss her.  I went ahead and deleted that playthrough.  I just couldn't do it.

 

Oh, that moment took my breath away. XD I turned super red and squealed like a school-girl. I ran around the house flailing - it wasn't the first time I scared my mother. XD


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I miss DA:A Anders. In truth, that's the only reason I romanced him.

Me too, honestly. I enjoyed the romance, don't get me wrong, but I know that at least some of my excitement for being able to romance Cullen is because I am sorry that Anders 2.0 wasn't voiced by Mr. Ellis. I think A LOT of nuance was lost in the change of VO's, and I'll stop here, because I can go on at great length about Greg Ellis' Anders vs. Howden's, and no one wants that. Trust me. :D


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This suddenly makes me imagine that Cullen follows you around so he can stand on the sidelines and hold your purse during a fight! :lol:

I love this :) I'm imagining all kinds of scenarios now!

 

*Inquisitor & Cullen are wandering through Denerim marketplace. Inquisitor is festooned with bags like a Christmas tree with baubles, and attempting to munch on cake at the same time*

Inquisitor: (obviously delighted) I love this market! Market cake is the best cake! And they do shoes! I can wear these to Orlais!

Cullen: Uh maybe this isn't the best time-

Inquisitor: There's always time for shoes. Ask Leliana!

Cullen: No, really-

*Inquisitor notices incoming bad people*

Inquisitor: Oh for goodness sake, hold these *thrusts armfuls of bags at Cullen and dashes off to fight whilst Cullen is attempting to see what is going on over six boxes of shoes, a hat and a very sticky cake*


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It was full on, but I felt it was very in-character for Anders. Plus, I guess they had been close and flirty for years by that point, so while to us it feels like the relationship just moved at 100 miles an hour, in-game it had been something that had been building up for years.

... Plus, that clinic was a sh!t hole, can't blame a him for trying, LOL!

 

Yeah, I think it's really important to remember that by the time they finally hook up, it's been YEARS of flirting and spending time together. It seems rushed to us, but there's a lot that we can assume happened without us holding the controller.

My headcanon with Anders was that my renegade mage volunteered in the clinic with him. She was his right-hand gal and they had a great, healthy relationship. But I don't need hours of playing them flirting about kittens and snowflakes, I only needed to see the ugly bits where Anders revealed how insecure he was...how scared he was of hurting her, because even before he met her in the estate, he was madly in love with her.

 

I think the problem lies in the fact that we HAVE to headcanon so much, because his storyline was unfulfilled. But I think context clues are ok to go off of. You know they're close. You know how he feels about her. It's alright to assume that we only see those ugly bits.

 

(Also, I told myself that she invited him to live with her after that. Because seriously, sleeping in the clinic was dangerous.)

Re: Pissing contest upthread

 

 

Anders and Fenris are both idiots.

 

*snort* :D

 

Oh, that moment took my breath away. XD I turned super red and squealed like a school-girl. I ran around the house flailing - it wasn't the first time I scared my mother. XD

 

Me too. I mean, your mother wasn't scared, but my daughter was. I was SO happy.


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I miss DA:A Anders. In truth, that's the only reason I romanced him.

 

I actually like Anders more as character in DA2, in DA:A he felt little flat and boring to me ^^; At least in DA2 I had strong emotions towards him XD



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I'm not sure if this has been spoken about before, but if the Fade opens up, do demons still need to make deals with people?  I sort of get them getting off on manipulating people, but maybe that's why there isn't a blood mage class anymore?  Also, what do you think happens to Justice now that the Fade has been breached?  Does Anders die, or does Justice just leave? (If the spirit still is Justice and not Vengence)


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I love that the Fade has gone from a washed out version of the "real world" and very "meh" to this eerie, ghostly, Salvador Dali-esc nightmare landscape. It's nice to see it finally get its own distinctive appearance.

 

 

Maybe this is the "raw fade"? Because I'm pretty sure demons transform the environment to suit their bidding. 



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I'm not sure if this has been spoken about before, but if the Fade opens up, do demons still need to make deals with people?  I sort of get them getting off on manipulating people, but maybe that's why there isn't a blood mage class anymore?  Also, what do you think happens to Justice now that the Fade has been breached?  Does Anders die, or does Justice just leave? (If the spirit still is Justice and not Vengence)

Nope. When the Fade tears, they are freely able to enter the mortal world. Upper level ones might make deals to better hide within possessed victims. Also, as for Justice/Vengeance, he might evolve or get a power boost near such tears. If Anders was killed in DA2, Gaider has confirmed that he is dead. Period.

 

 

Edit: As for Blood magic spec, I suspect it will either be a part of the Necromancy spec, or as a spell tree that we can unlock later in the game.


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I'm not sure if this has been spoken about before, but if the Fade opens up, do demons still need to make deals with people? I sort of get them getting off on manipulating people, but maybe that's why there isn't a blood mage class anymore? Also, what do you think happens to Justice now that the Fade has been breached? Does Anders die, or does Justice just leave? (If the spirit still is Justice and not Vengence)


Justice up and leaves and Anders turns into a bundle of fun again!
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I can tell you why I vastly preferred the DA:O romances over the DA2 ones: quantity. You get many, many conversation options with DA:O LIs in a shorter space of time. I really felt like I got to know these people and our relationships developed over the course of our many conversations. In DA2, it was like, flirt with you a few times... okay see you in a few years! Anders pretty much rebuffs your advances then suddenly he's in love with you and has been "aching for you for 3 years"?? Uh, okay... why didn't you speak up before? Where did all that come from? In DA2 there just wasn't enough relationship buildup for me. I'm hoping DA:I has more conversations.


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I'm not sure if this has been spoken about before, but if the Fade opens up, do demons still need to make deals with people?  I sort of get them getting off on manipulating people, but maybe that's why there isn't a blood mage class anymore?  Also, what do you think happens to Justice now that the Fade has been breached?  Does Anders die, or does Justice just leave? (If the spirit still is Justice and not Vengence)

That is a good question. I would like to know if any demons bother with mortals any more. 

I'd imagine that Anders and Justice are too merged at this point, although how would them splitting work? 'What's that? The fades open? Peace out loser!" ahhh actually that would be sad...maybe a little funny. 



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Justice up and leaves and Anders turns into a bundle of fun again!

Suddenly.Kittens, Kittens everywhere. 


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Also, anyone notice the red crystals that seem to permeate the landscape in the Fade now?

 

 

They've been in every fade scene shown. I'm betting they are either lyrium or purely to look pretty. 



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That is a good question. I would like to know if any demons bother with mortals any more.

I think upper level ones like Pride and desire and despair will possess mortals, just so that they can better avoid detection.



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That is a good question. I would like to know if any demons bother with mortals any more. 

I'd imagine that Anders and Justice are too merged at this point, although how would them splitting work? 'What's that? The fades open? Peace out loser!" ahhh actually that would be sad...maybe a little funny. 

 

Haha, that would be funny ^.^ I'm sure the reason that Anders let Justice enter his body was because he was going to die if he wasn't inside someone though.  So basically if he manages to get his own body again (if it works like that) then it'll be Justice once more, or something much more sinister *dramatic music*


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I think upper level ones like Pride and desire and despair will possess mortals, just so that they can better avoid detection.

That makes sense. I assume there would be many more because of the tear so the threat of them lurking will be even greater. 

Demons! Demons in every corner! 



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Haha, that would be funny ^.^ I'm sure the reason that Anders let Justice enter his body was because he was going to die if he wasn't inside someone though.  So basically if he manages to get his own body again (if it works like that) then it'll be Justice once more, or something much more sinister *dramatic music*

Justice roaming around in his own 'body' (he was more like a ghost before yeah?) and being in complete control would probably be sinister enough lol Have to track him through a trail of justice!



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That makes sense. I assume there would be many more because of the tear so the threat of them lurking will be even greater. 

Demons! Demons in every corner! 

Granted, I think there are already some very upper level demons traipsing about Thedas already, before the Tear, manipulating events, and have been doing so for centuries. If you have read TME, you'll understand what I mean. But I could see some demons leaving the tear to possess people in power throughout Thedas, for their own sort of demonic coup.


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Yeah, I think it's really important to remember that by the time they finally hook up, it's been YEARS of flirting and spending time together. It seems rushed to us, but there's a lot that we can assume happened without us holding the controller.

My headcanon with Anders was that my renegade mage volunteered in the clinic with him. She was his right-hand gal and they had a great, healthy relationship. But I don't need hours of playing them flirting about kittens and snowflakes, I only needed to see the ugly bits where Anders revealed how insecure he was...how scared he was of hurting her, because even before he met her in the estate, he was madly in love with her.

 

I think the problem lies in the fact that we HAVE to headcanon so much, because his storyline was unfulfilled. But I think context clues are ok to go off of. You know they're close. You know how he feels about her. It's alright to assume that we only see those ugly bits.

 

(Also, I told myself that she invited him to live with her after that. Because seriously, sleeping in the clinic was dangerous.)

 

My Hawke's gender was different, but the pre-romance relationship was similar. They were close friends and allies before they hooked up. I headcanon that he made a few passes at Anders which were rejected, leading to an uncomfortable period where they became closer, but the pain of rejection was still there. After losing Carver to the Wardens in the Deep Roads, Hawke really wanted something he could hang onto. That Hawke is not emotionally strong or independent, but he has been forced to let go so many times, he felt as if he would never stop hurting. Fenris kind of happened and it was disastrous, and then Isabela, and nobody wanted to be with him. He took it personally. But Anders was still there, and he genuinely seemed to need and appreciate Hawke.

 

Mostly, I take issue with the need people seem to have of not being able to praise one character or ship without tearing down another. I am uncomfortable with the assertion that one ship is "better" because it implies that the other ships are wrong, somehow. They aren't. All have their advantages, and all have their disadvantages. The ones you prefer are those that resonate with you. I like the Anders romance because I like the slow-moving, emotional trainwreck. I like the Isabela romance for emotionally stronger Hawkes because I like how they can be independent and uncommitted, but still very much in love. I like the Merrill romance for the reasons Galagraphia stated. Fenris is a hard sell for me for personal reasons, but I can see why some people like him.

 

The thing to remember is that this is the Cullen thread, not the Anders thread, or the Fenris thread, or anybody else. People are here because they like Cullen. They like a lot of other things besides, and sometimes, they like unpopular things, but they aren't wrong for liking those things. We get enough grief on the BSN as it is without finding reasons to divide us.


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