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#2626
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Best kept secret of Dragon Age.

 

 

LIKE!!  :D



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I originally thought that as well but I got thrown by the "Depending upon how players choose to interact with different love interests" line. When I read that I thought that each LI had their own specific romantic story arc.

 

Yeah but the emphasis is still on "how the players choose to interact"; this indicates that there will be different ways of interacting -- not dependent upon LI. If the emphasis were on the LIs themselves, it would go a little something like, "Depending on which love interest is perused..." etc.

 

EDIT: This is assuming the person who wrote this is a good writer and has an excellent grip on the English language, a rarity in gaming journalism...


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Yeah but the emphasis is still on "how the players choose to interact"; this indicates that there will be different ways of interacting -- not dependent upon LI. If the emphasis were on the LIs themselves, it would go a little something like, "Depending on which love interest is perused..." etc.

 

EDIT: This is assuming the person who wrote this is a good writer and has an excellent grip on the English language, a rarity in gaming journalism...

 

That's what i'm thinking. If you choose to be funny with your LI you get the buddy romance, if you choose to be aggressive you get the forbidden whatever romance and if you're nice or more neutral you get the sweet one.



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Yeah, I'm taking anything not a direct Dev quote as probably being misrepresented by the article.  :lol: Although I do like what it has to say in regards to the romantic themes.



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That's what i'm thinking. If you choose to be funny with your LI you get the buddy romance, if you choose to be aggressive you get the forbidden whatever romance and if you're nice or more neutral you get the sweet one.

 

Dang, I think my romance with Cullen is going to be a rocky one :lol:



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To me this doesn't sound like they're saying, "One character will be the buddy-buddy LI, another will be the romantic LI" and so on. More like each LI and romance has the potential to go in each of these directions.

That's what I got out of that as well. :)



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I hope it's not as clear cut as that, otherwise a lot of my playthroughs are going to be romantic comedies because a lot of my planned characters are snarky devils.  :lol:

 

Saying that I don't feel Cullen is so painfully shy that he'll be going red and flailing a lot and being the 'comedy' pair. I see him as a lot more in control of his feelings/being able to handle that sort of thing? He sure didn't mind being all "what the hell ever" when the female mage could be all "I bet you wish you didn't say all that about me now" during the pink prison moment.

 

If he IS ridiculously shy I think I'll be noping out of that LI playthrough. Still love the character if he turns out like that, of course, just not my style of LI.


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It sounded like just a redo of LadyInsanity's post... which she verified that the examples she used were based off the DA II romances.



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That's what i'm thinking. If you choose to be funny with your LI you get the buddy romance, if you choose to be aggressive you get the forbidden whatever romance and if you're nice or more neutral you get the sweet one.

 

Hmmm, intriguing! A Forbidden Romance with Cullen and a female Dalish Mage would be... fascinating. From both sides, really, as a Dalish elf would have been brought up that any children she had must be elf-blooded, so to fall for a human male, a human male who wanted to lock up her kind, a human male who thinks her kind heathens...

 

Mmmmm~

 

I hope it's not as clear cut as that, otherwise a lot of my playthroughs are going to be romantic comedies because a lot of my planned characters are snarky devils.  :lol:

 

Yeah, me too. I doubt it would be so... simple as that, though. Hope not, anyway.


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I hope it's not as clear cut as that, otherwise a lot of my playthroughs are going to be romantic comedies because a lot of my planned characters are snarky devils.  :lol:

 

Honestly I think it could potentially be a really neat system, but you WOULD get screwed if you only tend to play a certain personality :lol: Hmmm. Reminds me of people who argue against playersexual LIs, "It makes you play the opposite gender, and that's a good thing!" WELL WHAT IF I DON'T WANT TO, HMM?! :lol: What if you find "nice" boring" and "direct" too mean. I guess that means you better enjoy that romantic comedy?!



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just putting something on the plate.......

 

 

......lyrium addiction. Cullen most likely has it since, you know, with the full blown templar gig and all, not like alistair,

so if anyone's going to romance cullen, prepare to salvage as much lyrium as possible, maybe even cut some deals with the dwarves or the chantry or else...

 

be prepared for having a delirious foaming at the mouth cullen running around naked with his trousers on his head and dancing the merigold. 



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Wait ... wait, guys ... I-I read "started 12th of April, 2014". Today's the 14th. This is the 132nd page. Am I halluzinating? :lol:


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Wait ... wait, guys ... I-I read "started 12th of April, 2014". Today's the 14th. This is the 132nd page. Am I halluzinating? :lol:


No. We're just that awesome.
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just putting something on the plate.......

 

 

......lyrium addiction. Cullen most likely has it since, you know, with the full blown templar gig and all, not like alistair,

so if anyone's going to romance cullen, prepare to salvage as much lyrium as possible, maybe even cut some deals with the dwarves or the chantry or else...

 

be prepared for having a delirious foaming at the mouth cullen running around naked with his trousers on his head and dancing the merigold. 

 

 

Awesome! Alistair said he'd dance the Merigold for my Warden, but he never did. I guess my Inquisitor is one lucky gal  :P


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just putting something on the plate.......

 

 

......lyrium addiction. Cullen most likely has it since, you know, with the full blown templar gig and all, not like alistair,

so if anyone's going to romance cullen, prepare to salvage as much lyrium as possible, maybe even cut some deals with the dwarves or the chantry or else...

 

be prepared for having a delirious foaming at the mouth cullen running around naked with his trousers on his head and dancing the merigold. 

 

I'm sorry, did you say naked Cullen?


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just putting something on the plate.......

 

 

......lyrium addiction. Cullen most likely has it since, you know, with the full blown templar gig and all, not like alistair,

so if anyone's going to romance cullen, prepare to salvage as much lyrium as possible, maybe even cut some deals with the dwarves or the chantry or else...

 

be prepared for having a delirious foaming at the mouth cullen running around naked with his trousers on his head and dancing the merigold. 

Maybe by the time the game starts Cullen will be past the shakes and detox. =p



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just putting something on the plate.......

 

 

......lyrium addiction. Cullen most likely has it since, you know, with the full blown templar gig and all, not like alistair,

so if anyone's going to romance cullen, prepare to salvage as much lyrium as possible, maybe even cut some deals with the dwarves or the chantry or else...

 

be prepared for having a delirious foaming at the mouth cullen running around naked with his trousers on his head and dancing the merigold. 

 

I'd have nothing against dealing with the possibilities of lyrium addiction, personally. I'm sure (if that's the direction they go with him) that it'll be handled with respect too seeing addiction is a real, serious issue, and it doesn't matter if it's over a fictional substance or a real life one.

 

Edit:

 

My only small issue with the addiction plot line is that it seems like it might cause a break in the flow of the story/seem detached from the story. We have all this magical crap going down, that I can think of better things for a story with Cullen (or any Templar, for that matter) to be focused on rather than lyrium addiction.


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When did you first meet Cullen (e.g. as Amell/Surana, in the Broken Circle quest, or in DAII)?
As Surana during my first attempted origin -- I didn't end up sticking with it, though, not past making it to Ostagar, so I didn't see Cullen again until the Broken Circle quest with my Cousland playthrough. My 2nd full PT was Amell and that time I actually found him, talked to him, etc.
 
What was your first impression of Cullen? 
Broken Circle: Gah, you poor, poor bastard. I felt sorry for him. I didn't even feel offended at his rage against Uldred and the mages, given what he'd obviously been through. I had Alistair, Wynne and Leliana with me and their responses are pretty damned understanding/sympathetic, so that helped with the first impression, too.
When I interacted with him again - after defeating Uldred and then in my 2nd PT with an Amell which, of course, really added more depth to the whole encounter (and broke my soft, soft heart!) - I just felt sad -- it really seemed he'd be a lost cause from that point onward. :(
 
When did your impression of Cullen change (if ever)?
Pretty much as soon as I saw him in DA2. I thankfully made the connection to who he was straight away and my immediate response was "Oh, awesome! He's not insane!" :lol: Whereas Meredith and other Templars always gave me the heebie-jeebies or pissed me off, Cullen seemed very level-headed to me from the get go, in terms of how he chose to carry out his duties/practice his beliefs.

....Honestly, I felt for Cullen much like I felt for Ser Thrask: Thank God, Templars who aren't rabid, hateful, creepy insane bastards! Yay!
Just like I was happy whenever I met a Mage who wasn't all "Mwuahahaha! Blood Mage!" or ANOTHER abomination. There were so many extremists... I was happy whenever I was given sane people to interact with/sane perspectives to better understand different factions as individuals rather than stereotyped masses.

I just also happened to find this new, saner, more self-possessed/capable Cullen... pretty damned hot. Rrrow. ;)


I guess what really hooked me with him was that at the end of Act 3 I actually WASN'T surprised when he stepped up against Meredith. I was expecting him to, or at the very least hoping he would... when he did it just cinched how much I liked the kind of person the writers had developed him into and made me want/wish for more!

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Hello!
 
I think it'd be very interesting to see how similar (or different) our journey down the Cullen path has been, so a few questions below for all fellow Cullenites, ala "How I Met Cullen" style.  :)

 

Ah, this looks like fun. Let's proceed.

  1. When did you first meet Cullen (e.g. as Amell/Surana, in the Broken Circle quest, or in DAII)? In Broken Circle, with my Dalish elf, since that was the first character that actually managed to get passed the intro section. Interestingly, my first attempt was female Surana but she never talked to him, she did not even know he existed, did not hear the gossip, etc, so oblivious. Now when I think about it it could be quite a shock for her to listen to him in his pink bubble... My second proper pt (and my favourite Warden) was with female Amell and I managed to finally talk to Cullen mostly because of girls in Kaidan's thread (which I was regularly stalking back then), since there were quite a few fans of our Templar.
  2. What was your first impression of Cullen? With my Dalish Warden I was deeply sorry for the guy, but for me he was npc no. 246... I did not really think about him that much, I was more worried what was waiting for me behind that door and desperately trying to remember about Litany of Andralla, lol. Later on with my mage Warden, I thought he was cute and was torn, when trying to build a bit of a backstory for my mage, between roleplaying that she had a bit of a crush on him or on Jowan (what can I say, I like the drama). Cullen finally won (I just thought it was more dramatic) and the scene in the Broken Circle was quite a life changing moment for my character, partly because of what was going on there, and partly because of what Cullen went through (he just made it even more personal).
  3. When did your impression of Cullen change (if ever)? I admit I liked him in DAO, but mostly because of the role he played in one of my pc's development. At that point I did not see any of the ending slides for him, so I did not think about him after the game was over. I was surprised to find him in DA2, feeling more mature and all around professional, which was in major contrast to how I remembered him from DAO: young and inexperienced initially, deeply hurt, confused, broken, and determined later on. As the game progressed I found him more and more intriguing and the ending left me completely surprised, since I never thought that he would make a stance (or become a noticeable player in that final sequence). After the game was over, I was wondering what the heck has happened to my Hawke and companions, but I was also curious about Cullen. So if anything, my impression of him never majorly changed, okay, it has changed but I always liked him, I just gradually discovered more about him, which in turn left me genuinely interested. So here I am :]


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I'd have nothing against dealing with the possibilities of lyrium addiction, personally. I'm sure (if that's the direction they go with him) that it'll be handled with respect too seeing addiction is a real, serious issue, and it doesn't matter if it's over a fictional substance or a real life one.

 

Edit:

 

My only small issue with the addiction plot line is that it seems like it might cause a break in the flow of the story/seem detached from the story. We have all this magical crap going down, that I can think of better things for a story with Cullen (or any Templar, for that matter) to be focused on rather than lyrium addiction.

 

I could actually see the game addressing the lyrium addiction issue, but not focusing on it to much extent. It's something I'd expect to talk about, if my SO had an addiction.



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Oh, fun, a questionnaire!  Seems like a good way to jump into the thread, which I meant to join, er, about 120 pages ago.  I had a busy weekend and you all move FAST.  Anyway...

Yes, all comers welcome! Don't worry about being behind. We do appreciate folks who try to keep up, but right now that task is downright herculean. So, grab some internet and settle in. :wizard:
 

It's taken me 2 DAYS  to catch up with both threads. I'm exhausted!!!!!
 
So it's now a page 1000 celebration?  I have been slacking on my project, so I hope so!

Yes, it will be a Page 1000 celebration since 500 is way too soon. But everyone should start thinking about their contributions! 
 
For the uninitiated, we do a Cullen-inspired celebration every big page milestone. To see past celebrations for examples, go to the second post of this thread. Theme, for those who want inspiration, for Page 1000 is "raunchy/angsty" inspired by Greg Ellis's charming shenanigans on twitter this week. But, anything Cullen-related is welcome. Fics, poems, photomanips, recipes, art, whathaveyou. Just be creative!
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No. We're just that awesome.

 

*humbly offers her congrats to the mighty Cullenites and gives way for them to continue*


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I saw this on Examiner.com and thought I'd share:
 
Think of each type of romance in Dragon Age: Inquisition as a different kind of movie with every possible way that the love can unfold in the game is like a different genre. Depending upon how players choose to interact with different love interests, they may see the story unfold like a pure love story, a romantic comedy, or even somewhat like a buddy action movie. Of course, should fans not want to romance anyone, the option remains to fully skip the romance system.
 
I'm thinking that Cullen's might be the 'pure love story' (although as shy as he is, we may get the 'romantic comedy' story line) but I wouldn't say 'no' to a bromantic 'buddy action movie'!

I think folks should listen to the panel themselves and decide what they think it means. I frankly found it confusing once I heard it... and I think the examiner is just giving their own interpretation (which I personally disagree with). For my $0.02, my interpretation of Mike Laidlaw's comments is that the devs want to make sure you have connections with the companions. Those "connections" (his word) might be humorous (aka buddy buddy with Varric) or could be rivalmantic. I don't think he was talking about how these are the flavors of romance, but instead flavors of relationships with the companions.

Someone have the panel handy...?
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I could actually see the game addressing the lyrium addiction issue, but not focusing on it to much extent. It's something I'd expect to talk about, if my SO had an addiction.

 

Right, I think that would work. It would be a bit sad if it's not addressed at all, but I can't see, like, his personal quest (if companions still get one of those) being to do with lyrium addiction. I can't see a huge chunk of his personal story being about it, either. I imagine his personal story might have more to do with what he believes the Templars should be and such. Sort of the continuation of where his story ended in DA2.


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just putting something on the plate.......
 
 
......lyrium addiction. Cullen most likely has it since, you know, with the full blown templar gig and all, not like alistair,
so if anyone's going to romance cullen, prepare to salvage as much lyrium as possible, maybe even cut some deals with the dwarves or the chantry or else...
 
be prepared for having a delirious foaming at the mouth cullen running around naked with his trousers on his head and dancing the merigold.


Or they could go the route of the previous two games and gloss over lyrium addiction. DG has stated that they could never fully implement it like it should happen in RL. That being said, we've also never had a templar in our party/NPCdom/keep/(bed).