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I think mages have new spells relevant to the Veil now. The dodge that Vivienne showed at PAX looked like she was slipping into the Veil and out rather than rolling on the floor. Also, I'd suspect the Rift Mage specialisation to also reflect the Tear.


Teleporting and general upgrades, I could get behind that.

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It would be awesome if everyone had the potential and maybe lyrium helps hook you up to the Fade juice. Then, if Veil rips, everyone is hooked up? I still love this idea. Suddenly, every damn fool is shooting lightning at every other damn fool. 

 

Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria! LOL 

This is going to be my new pet crackpot theory until game release. LOL 

 

Everyone has top secret magic potential and the Chantry knows all about it and has covered it up for eons.  

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Just because it goes away without regular lyrium intake doesn't necessarily mean you don't need some predisposition for it to work in the first place. That would actually be kind of cool. But then... the descriptions of templar recruitment from the BW blogs make it sound like they take any heavy who'll enlist. So, sadly, unlikely.

True, though I did mention both things (lyrium and training) as reasons why it's unlikely that templars are special non-mages.
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Once More With Feeling quest confirmed!

New special skill :Jazz Hands confirmed!  :lol:


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This is going to be my new pet crackpot theory until game release. LOL 

 

Everyone has top secret magic potential and the Chantry knows all about it and has covered it up for eons.  

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LOL!

 

Just had to take a minute and fangirl over Yul Brynner! *flail* Ok. Done. Ahem.


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I was hypothesizing. What if your fade mark comes from the collective deaths of those caught in the blast? Similar to how Cole McGrath get his electrokinetic powers in the inFamous games.

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Technically it wouldn't even be the Chantry that do this. Even in the Imperium (both old and new) not everyone was a mage.

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New special skill :Jazz Hands confirmed!  :lol:

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New Ability

Inspired: Moderate Belting

 

(also Yul Brynner, you are my bald Russian dreamboat 5ever)


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New Ability

Inspired: Moderate Belting

 

(also Yul Brynner, you are my bald Russian dreamboat 5ever)

 

LOL It took me a moment to recognize that verb... and that it didn't hurt... :blush:


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How would Cullen react to suddenly having magic as a result of the Veil being down...? dun dun dun... 

 

I think initially he would panic and have a major identity crisis, but I think that he would eventually adjust. (Bearing in mind this would be happening post-Kirkwall. If it had happened pre-Kirkwall I would expect a complete mental breakdown and likely suicide.) I don't think it would change his view of magic as a whole, which is that it is dangerous and needs to be monitored. He would just start carefully monitoring himself as well as carefully monitoring mages, and probably confirm periodically with a trusted outside source that he was correctly evaluating his own behavior.

 

Cullen has already proven he's incredibly adaptable and able to recover from situations that completely upend his view of the world. (Which happened both at Kinloch Hold and Kirkwall.) Not to say it doesn't leave scars, but he's able to adjust and carry on. I think that with some time and soul-searching, he'd be able to adjust to a life where he had magic, although I don't think it would be easy for him.


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I could totally see him freaking out and turning himself in to the Circle... or whatever the powers that be are now that the Circle is defunct.


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I could totally see him freaking out and turning himself in to the Circle... or whatever the powers that be are now that the Circle is defunct.

 

I definitely think he would have turned himself over to the Circle back when there were still Circles. I don't see Cullen as the sort of person who wouldn't apply the same standards to himself as to other people, so I think he'd still feel that was right if he was the one involved.

 

At this point I think the situation would be a little different for him because of the templars breaking off from the Chantry, though - I don't personally think Cullen would see those templars as a legitimate authority, since I see him being Chantry-loyal.

 

Maybe he would turn himself over to representatives of the Divine instead? Obviously they couldn't send him to a Circle, since there aren't any, but maybe they would find a use for him? Perhaps in the Inquisition? Hm...


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Wait, are we talking about what would happen if only Cullen suddenly became magical due to being near the Fade tear, or if everyone including Cullen suddenly became magical because of the Veil going away / other lore stuff that is beyond my pay grade? If the latter I imagine him not taking it as a personal insult from the Maker, and being more concerned with getting the (ex?) Templars to start shepherding everyone including themselves ASAP into crash courses being given by whatever (ex?) Circle Enchanters are willing to help out.


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Lol Cullen be like -I'd tap that mana :P


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Wait, are we talking about what would happen if only Cullen suddenly became magical due to being near the Fade tear, or if everyone including Cullen suddenly became magical because of the Veil going away / other lore stuff that is beyond my pay grade?

 

I think sort of both, because in an era without mass communications it would take time to realize that everyone was indeed affected, so when it happened initially Cullen would presumably not have access to that information and could not respond accordingly till people collectively figured out what was going on. :)


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Maybe he would turn himself over to representatives of the Divine instead? Obviously they couldn't send him to a Circle, since there aren't any, but maybe they would find a use for him? Perhaps in the Inquisition? Hm...

This is what I was thinking too. Ah, the places my mind wanders when there isn't any actual news to chat about. lol



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If everyone become mages all of sudden, I think there's a fair chance a lot of people would become abominations quickly. Cullen's past experience in The Broken Circle might help him to resist after the transformations in a mage.
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I don't necessarily think everyone would become mages - I could see mages as people with high magical ability and other people developing just some magical ability - but I agree that there would be a lot more abominations, and that Cullen would be strong enough to resist that.



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*unlurker mode activate* 

Honestly I'd love to see how the torn veil affects those around it. I'm still thinking/hope those made tranquil who are near the tears will be reconnected and no longer tranquil. Too see a bunch of people who have no idea how to use magic would be terrifying. So many people would hurt themselves and others around them. Some might even kill themselves depending on their beliefs. It would tear whole communities apart.

What would all the templars do? If they have magic do they turn on each other? Do they start gathering up everyone across the land? Hmm so many questions...that I doubt we'll actually have answered c___c

but if we do...ooh booooy



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*unlurker mode activate*
Honestly I'd love to see how the torn veil affects those around it. I'm still thinking/hope those made tranquil who are near the tears will be reconnected and no longer tranquil. Too see a bunch of people who have no idea how to use magic would be terrifying. So many people would hurt themselves and others around them. Some might even kill themselves depending on their beliefs. It would tear whole communities apart.
What would all the templars do? If they have magic do they turn on each other? Do they start gathering up everyone across the land? Hmm so many questions...that I doubt we'll actually have answered c___cbut if we do...ooh booooy

In regards to those made Tranquil, I'm very scared of those who had legitimate reasons to be made Tranquil. They will have their powers back, and will no doubt be overly emotional and angry at what was done to them.
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In regards to those made Tranquil, I'm very scared of those who had legitimate reasons to be made Tranquil. They will have their powers back, and will no doubt be overly emotional and angry at what was done to them.

What sort of madness would we have to deal with if this happens?...and those made Tranquil a long time ago won't even know what to do with themselves. They'll have so much anger, and also sadness and fear, as the tears can't stay open forever. Having to confront them to close the tears would be a difficult battle. 



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In regards to those made Tranquil, I'm very scared of those who had legitimate reasons to be made Tranquil. They will have their powers back, and will no doubt be overly emotional and angry at what was done to them.

Ah, good times. ^_^  This is why I think it would be so interesting. The tables would be turned on *everyone*. The hunters become the hunted. 

 

As for Cullen, sure, there are Big Important Things he would do to safeguard the world... but I'm more interested in what his very personal response would be about himself. Given his approach to the Circle, he seems to be a Greater Good kind of a guy, so I always imagine he'd have a hard time learning to take care of an individual's needs, including his own. Particularly when that individual's needs are not strictly aligned with the Greater Good.

 

I'd love to see that in his romance, actually, as of course I've said many times before. 


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What sort of madness would we have to deal with if this happens?...and those made Tranquil a long time ago won't even know what to do with themselves. They'll have so much anger, and also sadness and fear, as the tears can't stay open forever. Having to confront them to close the tears would be a difficult battle.

Hell, because they are so emotional, their magic is gonna respond accordingly, acting in a very chaotic manner. Their very presence could accidentally widen the rifts that they are in close proximity to.
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I was hypothesizing. What if your fade mark comes from the collective deaths of those caught in the blast? Similar to how Cole McGrath get his electrokinetic powers in the inFamous games.

Hmm, that would be interesting! I mean, if mass death can rip the Fade, why not rip into your hand?  

 

Altho... uh oh, now you've done it. Now this whole hand thing is reminding me of the Evil Dead.

 

"My hand went bad. So I lopped it off at the wrist..."

 

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