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yeah... plus it doesn't look quite as ruined as the other pic of therinfal redoubt. Hmmm... WTF?

 

Looks like this place:

 

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which admittedly looks like it's in Ferelden, given the dog thingies in front. 

 

 

 

Could be the same place I guess...

 

I assume we take it from them? #WishICouldBringCullenAlong 

 



#27252
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Plus... the Seekers haven't been there for over 40 years. Why talk about it in the present/future tense? "patience is what you will learn"



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OOO back to Ferelden.. would love to revisit that place... specially to see Alistair  again :D  is that from where we are going to recruit Cullen though? Or is that a red templar fortress?



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But if it is the same place....why is there no red lyrium? And why is there all those magey looking shrines? And why is one part of it all decrepit and one part all up and running looking?
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We've gone live for the Dragon Age DnD:

 

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But if it is the same place....why is there no red lyrium? And why is there all those magey looking shrines? And why is one part of it all decrepit and one part all up and running looking?

Exactly. Honestly... I question that this new pic is the same place as the one from Twitter yesterday. Unless we're seeing the Keep in the past, somehow today. Heh. How's that for a pretentious thing to say? *snort*



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FWIW, here's the slightly higher res shot from FB.

 

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So prettiful! But the Templar banners are somewhat confuzzling.

Yeah, I'm kinda confuzzled about them, too. Are *all* the templars Red Templars? Red is kind of the new purple, at least since DA2 switched up the Chantry color scheme. And does that mean that all templars get glowy crystallized bows and demon pendants? Or just the bad guys? And if it is just the bad guys, why are the banners red? And why would red lyrium-crazed templar-abominations go flying banners anyway? That's a little festive for someone whose superior officer is a Red Behemoth.


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#27259
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HE RESPONDED! AND WITH A WINKY FACE!!!!


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Good. So at least we know for sure that DA:I will figure in the press conference... Confirmation is always good. 



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FWIW, here's the slightly higher res shot from FB.

 

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The big ropey thing in the middle of the shot makes me think that our Keep will have cable. 


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Yeah, I'm kinda confuzzled about them, too. Are *all* the templars Red Templars? Red is kind of the new purple, at least since DA2 switched up the Chantry color scheme. And does that mean that all templars get glowy crystallized bows and demon pendants? Or just the bad guys? And if it is just the bad guys, why are the banners red? And why would red lyrium-crazed templar-abominations go flying banners anyway? That's a little festive for someone whose superior officer is a Red Behemoth.

Yeah, it's hard to say. Technically, these are the only Red Templar symbols we've sorta had confirmed. And, they are slightly different. 
 
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Edit: Meaning, that we know this location is filled with red templars, so those must be their tents.

We've also seen their boats with the same, same templar shield as DA2.

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Yeah, I'm kinda confuzzled about them, too. Are *all* the templars Red Templars? Red is kind of the new purple, at least since DA2 switched up the Chantry color scheme. And does that mean that all templars get glowy crystallized bows and demon pendants? Or just the bad guys? And if it is just the bad guys, why are the banners red? And why would red lyrium-crazed templar-abominations go flying banners anyway? That's a little festive for someone whose superior officer is a Red Behemoth.


I'd honestly given up hope on there still being regular templars as a proper faction to be honest. But this kinda gives me hope.
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So, I finally finished reading The Masked Empire. The thing I loved absolutely the most about it was how well the secondary characters were developed.

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I'd honestly given up hope on there still being regular templars as a proper faction to be honest. But this kinda gives me hope.

Every official source that talks about the cancelling of the Nevarran Accord makes a point of saying that some templars and seekers are still loyal to the Chantry. I'm still betting that there are "regular" templars, even if there aren't that many. I could see a squabble over the official licensing and trademark rights over the sword of mercy, tho. Makes sense to me that the new Red Templar faction would just co-opt it for themselves, even while chantry-loyal ones might still use it as well.
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So, I finally finished reading The Masked Empire. The thing I loved absolutely the most about it was how well the secondary characters were developed.

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Agree, altho I still thought he twirled his mustache once or twice. :D
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Every official source that talks about the cancelling of the Nevarran Accord makes a point of saying that some templars and seekers are still loyal to the Chantry. I'm still betting that there are "regular" templars, even if there aren't that many. I could see a squabble over the official licensing and trademark rights over the sword of mercy, tho. Makes sense to me that the new Red Templar faction would just co-opt it for themselves, even while chantry-loyal ones might still use it as well.


I meant a proper faction we can either side with or against. I was thinking they might just fade into the background or all just gone with Cassandra and Leliana to form the Inquisition.

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I meant a proper faction we can either side with or against. I was thinking they might just fade into the background or all just gone with Cassandra and Leliana to form the Inquisition.

Yeah, I see what you mean. Blergh. Who knows. I mean, I wouldn't expect Bog Standard Templars to have, you now, fortresses like this anymore, but maybe they do.

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Yeah, I'm kinda confuzzled about them, too. Are *all* the templars Red Templars? Red is kind of the new purple, at least since DA2 switched up the Chantry color scheme. And does that mean that all templars get glowy crystallized bows and demon pendants? Or just the bad guys? And if it is just the bad guys, why are the banners red? And why would red lyrium-crazed templar-abominations go flying banners anyway? That's a little festive for someone whose superior officer is a Red Behemoth.

No, it was mentioned in that Pax video last year (I think? Don't know which is which, because I'm late to the party) that you can recruit templars to your cause, if you gain enough respect, so I guess it means they are not crazy.

So, I finally finished reading The Masked Empire. The thing I loved absolutely the most about it was how well the secondary characters were developed.

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#27269
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Myers Briggs is usually pretty accurate in subdividing people into categories, but the relationships seem to be based on the theory that opposites attract.

 

Yeah. I think INFJ is pretty accurate for me (I took the offline full version to get that result,) but the relationship chart has me paired with extroverts, and I've actually found I tend to dislike dating extroverts because many of them have an unfortunate habit of talking over me on a regular basis, which I find very annoying. I think rather than opposites just flat out attracting, a relationship needs a balance of similarities and differences.

 



Speaking of big causes to die for, do you think Cullen joins the Inquisition to achieve something epic? Like to reform the Templars and the Circle system? Or maybe he just wants to help saving the world? Or maybe he is a very ambitious guy, and he thinks it's a great opportunity to finally become somebody? Or maybe Cassandra just dragged him in (threatening to slap him with a book or to stab him in the knee)? :)

 

I think Cullen remains idealistic enough that he joins the Inquisition because he believes the world can still be saved and he wants to be part of saving it. That said...

 



This is an interesting question. I wonder if he's an ambitious guy. I always think of his rapid rise up the ranks in Kirkwall as something pushed upon him by Meredith. But what if it was also something he wanted himself? Could he have engineered it himself? Hmm. Haven't thought about that possible angle on him.

 

I do think Cullen is at least somewhat ambitious. Although I think it's clear Meredith ultimately engineered his promotions, Cullen would have to have demonstrated at least some leadership potential for Meredith to have had that option.

 

I would imagine Cullen would be somewhat surprised each time Meredith offered him the opportunity to rise in the ranks... but I also think it's important that he didn't turn it down. He had at least enough self-confidence and interest in being involved in leadership that he accepted the opportunities Meredith was offering, presumably with sufficient lack of reluctance that she saw it as an ongoing option.

 

I don't think ambition is Cullen's primary trait or motivation. I think he cares much more about doing the right thing than his own position - if that weren't the case, he wouldn't have risked it all at the end. I do think there's a spark of ambition in there somewhere, though.

 



Personally I could see him wanting to keep the circles, but with some form of compromise with the mages.  Like in DA2 he comes up with the idea of educating the mages as to why the Templars act the way they do, something that I don't think (though I haven't read the books or comics) has been done in any of the circles before.  I could totally see him wanting a change in the way the circles are run, even though he would still want them to exist as a sanctuary.  

 

Yeah, this is how I see it too. I see Cullen as pretty moderate in his views, but I don't think he would ever be able to completely ignore the fact that some mages do pose a danger - whether by intention or by lack of self-control - and that mages are in danger of being hurt by others due to the suspicion about them.

 

I don't see Cullen simply trying to restore the status quo in response, though. After Kirkwall, I think he realized just how broken the status quo was.

 

I can see Cullen wanting more of a compromise position that offers protection and security to and from mages without the extreme restrictions and paranoia of the old system.

 



So, in essence, I expect a trailer on the Monday, with a gameplay demo of some sort on Tuesday. I will be callin in sick both Monday and Tuesday lol

 

I can't call off in the next couple of weeks, but I'm seriously considering having someone text me at work if there's anything about Cullen. ;)


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I'm confused why some of the banners have the sword pointing down like in DA2, and others point up like in Origins.

 

I mean if one symbol belongs to the Red templars and the other to chantry loyal ones, I'm going to be repeating "Which ones do red?" a lot.



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I'm confused why some of the banners have the sword pointing down like in DA2, and others point up like in Origins.
 
I mean if one symbol belongs to the Red templars and the other to chantry loyal ones, I'm going to be repeating "Which ones do red?" a lot.

The banner in the environment trailer (which i think it's therinfal) and in Empris di Lion have the sword pointed up, as today's Shot. So I think they choose the direction.
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I'm confused why some of the banners have the sword pointing down like in DA2, and others point up like in Origins.

 

I mean if one symbol belongs to the Red templars and the other to chantry loyal ones, I'm going to be repeating "Which ones do red?" a lot.

 

I would tend to think it's just a stylistic choice - that different groups of templars may have slightly different variations on the standard logo, so people in the know would be able to recognize on sight which unit they were seeing. It would be pretty confusing for templars in the field if you saw, say, banners at a distance and couldn't tell if they represented a group from Kinloch Hold or White Spire. I think it would be more realistic for templar markings to have some standard themes with minor distinguishing variations.

 

Pure speculation on my part of course.


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I just hope that there'll be a non-RT templar group. The fact that so far the RT don't seem involved with the mages and the mage-templar war makes me hopeful.
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Yeah, I hope we get to interact with some reasonable/good templars. I don't want the only representation of templars in the game to be as villains. While the Templar Order as a whole has obviously made some pretty wretched decisions, I don't see how Thedas could function with a complete absence of templars given there are dangerous mages, and demons and abominations are a very real threat.


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I'm confused why some of the banners have the sword pointing down like in DA2, and others point up like in Origins.

I mean if one symbol belongs to the Red templars and the other to chantry loyal ones, I'm going to be repeating "Which ones do red?" a lot.

I don't think the direction matters because even within DA2 there are examples of it both ways.