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I think Cullen asking Inquisitor to go against group of red templars with him would be approriate or in other hand save some chantry loyal temlars or circle loyal mages from red templars would make nice story plot : )

 

Oh man, I'm so curious about what his quest(s) could entail. Something that spans across multiple regions could literally be anything, lol!


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Oh man, I'm so curious about what his quest(s) could entail. Something that spans across multiple regions could literally be anything, lol!

 

Grocery shopping quest? The player takes control of Cullen, and The OunQuisitor wants a very specific kind of cookies, so they have Cullen go to several stores across Thedas to find it. And then he gets the wrong kind and he has to go back.  :P


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I don't think that each companion/advisor will have multiple quests. Gaider said that they returned to one plot/quest for companion.
I guess that if they're multi-arc the quest itself will be divided in different parts that can't be resolved at once but you have to wait to reach the next arc. they stated in the GI coverage that to continue in the main plot we have to reach a certain status with the Inquisition and then go in the next arc.
I'm intrigued in how it'll work out, expecially becuase it seems that the Inquisition will progress step by step in term of power and influence, which I prefer. We need time and results to expand our influence.
Speaking of which, considering that we know where the game starts
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does anybody think that at first we'll be able to explore areas near this location, and then expand the areas we can explore due to the increase of our power and influence?
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I don't think that each companion/advisor will have multiple quests. Gaider said that they returned to one plot/quest for companion.


What? When? Aw man! :(

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Did anybody else see Chris Pickford's tweet? It says: dragon age Inqusition will answer lots of questions but will create so many more.

As if the mysterious DAI needed more mystery. Sighhhhh.
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I don't think that each companion/advisor will have multiple quests. Gaider said that they returned to one plot/quest for companion.
I guess that if they're multi-arc the quest itself will be divided in different parts that can't be resolved at once but you have to wait to reach the next arc. they stated in the GI coverage that to continue in the main plot we have to reach a certain status with the Inquisition and then go in the next arc.
I'm intrigued in how it'll work out, expecially becuase it seems that the Inquisition will progress step by step in term of power and influence, which I prefer. We need time and results to expand our influence.
Speaking of which, considering that we know where the game starts

Spoiler
does anybody think that at first we'll be able to explore areas near this location, and then expand the areas we can explore due to the increase of our power and influence?

 

Yeah, that's what I was referring too, a quest that spans across the game in segments. 

 

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What? When? Aw man! :(

Gaider discussed (last year, I think) a bit how companions' dialogue, approval and quest work in DAI compared to DAO and DA2.it was the same post where he stated that we'll be able to start convo with companions again.

Did anybody else see Chris Pickford's tweet? It says: dragon age Inqusition will answer lots of questions but will create so many more.
As if the mysterious DAI needed more mystery. Sighhhhh.

I'm fine with more mystery, as long as we find answers for other plots.

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Did anybody else see Chris Pickford's tweet? It says: dragon age Inqusition will answer lots of questions but will create so many more.

As if the mysterious DAI needed more mystery. Sighhhhh.

 

I bet we never will find out what the deal with Flemeth and Sandal is, lol.


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Yeah, that's what I was referring too, a quest that spans across the game in segments. 
 

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I just want to clarify it, because some people might not know about it. I hope the companion quests, even if only one per character, are bigger than in DAO.
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I bet we never will find out what the deal with Flemeth and Sandal is, lol.


I think we have more chances to find out about Flemeth then Sandal though :lol:.

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OT but to annoy me, my boyfriend has started calling Hawke Shepard because he thinks Mass Effect is way better than DA >.>
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So, I know this was supposed to be some sort of Seeker training ground or whatever (if the Twitter poster didn't **** up the corresponding picture) but you can clearly see Templar insignia on those banners. Do you suppose that maybe this is where Cullen has been hanging out? I know he's technically not a Templar anymore in regards to being a leader, but perhaps if his faction is what became of the Divine loyal ones, maybe this is where we can find him?:

 

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See, it's the tagline that throws me off: "Patience is what you will learn with no city to distract or tempt you". What does that even mean? Is that a reference to the Seekers? If it is then why? They haven't been there in years. Or is it in reference to the Templars? It could even be a reference to Cullen since he served in the city of Kirkwall for years, thus the reference to the city being a distraction could be referring to Cullen's history there? And the temptation being... Lyrium/Red Lyrium? Revenge? Sex/Romance? The temptation of wanting a normal life? The art of not just charging into battle, trying to kill ALL the things and getting your arse handed to ya?

 

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I just want to clarify it, because some people might not know about it. I hope the companion quests, even if only one per character, are bigger than in DAO.

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OT but to annoy me, my boyfriend has started calling Hawke, Shepard because he thinks Mass Effect is way better than DA >.>

 

Awwww! That's so cute! Your boyfriend is awesome.  -pulls self together-  Alright Cheshire, gotta stay on topic. So....that Cullen.......hot, right?



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@Lolalei: the templar banner is the same present in the Empris di Lion's RT-controlled tower, so I guess the templars present here are the the RT who took control of the fortress.
I think that they'd change the red colour of the banner to separate the Red templars for the other templars.

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@Lolalei: the templar banner is the same present in the Empris di Lion's RT-controlled tower, so I guess the templars present here are the the RT who took control of the fortress.
I think that they'd change the red colour of the banner to separate the Red templars for the other templars.

 

That's what also throws me off. The red Templars are still using their original Templar insignia, does that mean that they aren't rebel Templars and just unfortunates that ended up huffing red lyrium, meaning that there are now 3 types of Templars? (Red, loyal and rebel).You would think that the rebel Templars would want to ditch an insignia so heavily associated with the Chantry, right? Or perhaps that building is for the Divine loyal Templars/Cullen's faction and they kept the insignia for nostalgia purposes, especially if the Divine really does snuff it.



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Your overlooking the simple explanation. It's a palette swap to save on resources.



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That's what also throws me off. The red Templars are still using their original Templar insignia, does that mean that they aren't rebel Templars and just unfortunates that ended up huffing red lyrium, meaning that there are now 3 types of Templars? (Red, loyal and rebel).You would think that the rebel Templars would want to ditch an insignia so heavily associated with the Chantry, right? Or perhaps that building is for the Divine loyal Templars/Cullen's faction and they kept the insignia for nostalgia purposes, especially if the Divine really does snuff it.

It's possible that there are three types of templars, though I think that it's possible that they made all the loyal templars part of the Seekers, and unite the Seekers and templars that left the Chantry in the Templar Order, which is then split with the Red templars. This might be supported by the earlier ring concept art, if the red ring rapresent the RT. The templar ring would rapresent the new templars (both templars and Seekers) that left the Chantry and the Seekers ring would rapresent the loyal Seekers who would include the templars that remained with the Chantry.
I don't think that the rebel templars would want to ditch the insignia. Lambert was more against Justinia than the Chantry. The reason why the Red templars use the same insignia might be because Bioware didn't want to confuse people by showing a 'templar' group with a completely different insignia.
I think it's still possible that the templars in Therinfal aren't RT due to the fact that we don't have much info yet, but I don't think it's very likely. It'd be extremely confusing if all the templars' factions use the same sign without even a difference in the colour scheme.

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Yeah, I'm also hoping that he'd actually come with us on his quest(s) rather than waiting in the Skyhold or at our camps/strongholds.

Or perhaps it's Cullen-centric in that we have to track the bugger down across Orlais/Ferelden, lol!

Yeah, I think it could be any of those. Sadly, Cullen-centric doesn't mean he's necessarily coming with us. 



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Your overlooking the simple explanation. It's a palette swap to save on resources.

 

Must you put a dampener on everything? I'm trying to create conversation and speculation here, it's what keeps the thread ticking over whilst we're low on news.



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Your overlooking the simple explanation. It's a palette swap to save on resources.

 

So, Occam's razor, we meet again. It always destroys wild speculation, and wild speculation is fun. You don't bring it into a thread like this lol


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So, we meet again, Occam's razor. Occam's razor always destroys wild speculation, and wild speculation is fun. You don't bring it into thread like this lol

 

Good luck trying to destroy my wild speculations, it's what I do best.



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That's what also throws me off. The red Templars are still using their original Templar insignia, does that mean that they aren't rebel Templars and just unfortunates that ended up huffing red lyrium, meaning that there are now 3 types of Templars? (Red, loyal and rebel).You would think that the rebel Templars would want to ditch an insignia so heavily associated with the Chantry, right? Or perhaps that building is for the Divine loyal Templars/Cullen's faction and they kept the insignia for nostalgia purposes, especially if the Divine really does snuff it.


I would really love that actually, (though I doubt it). Suddenly, RTs are much more relatable and sympathetic, rather than just kinda whitewashed-crystallised-moustache-twirling bad guys. And that you can still find some common ground with the rebels too, because they too are no longer just evil for the sake of evil. Also, I'd suppose it explains why we haven't actually seen RTs actively hunting mages, just causing seemingly random acts of destruction. They're not the ultra-paranoid, firmly anti-mage kind of rebel Templar, but much moderate and unfortunate.

But like I said, I do doubt it. I'm still coming round to the idea that the loyalist Templars are still going to have some sort of major(ish) role in Inquisition outside of just merging with the Inquisition.

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I don't think that the rebel templars would want to ditch the insignia. Lambert was more against Justinia than the Chantry. The reason why the Red templars use the same insignia might be because Bioware didn't want to confuse people by showing a 'templar' group with a completely different insignia.
I think it's still possible that the templars in Therinfal aren't RT due to the fact that we don't have much info yet, but I don't think it's very likely. It'd be extremely confusing if all the templars' factions use the same sign without even a difference in the colour scheme.

Yeah, I think they'll have to explain this so we know who we're fighting at any given time. So far, the Red Templars we've seen look identical to the old ones, plus one red glowy necklace. Oh, and the words "red tempar" above their head. Unless they change things later, I would expect that most templars we'd encounter would end up looking the same so as not to confuse the player. Unless they want to confuse the player, which is another possibility. 

 

Back to Therinfal Redoubt and the templar banners, like I said yesterday, it looks like the new fortress exterior is similar or even identical to the one shown in the environment video with the Ferelden symbol out front [whereas it's slightly different from the Red Templar tent symbol at Empire duwhatever]. But both templar fortresses look like they're in current use, whereas the description and the first pic of Therinfall Redoubt look in disrepair with non-Andrastian symbols, including the Tevinter-looking symbol from the Fires Above map. From the description Seekers haven't trained there for over 40 years. So who's there now? 



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I would really love that actually, (though I doubt it). Suddenly, RTs are much more relatable and sympathetic, rather than just kinda whitewashed-crystallised-moustache-twirling bad guys. And that you can still find some common ground with the rebels too, because they too are no longer just evil for the sake of evil. Also, I'd suppose it explains why we haven't actually seen RTs actively hunting mages, just causing seemingly random acts of destruction. They're not the ultra-paranoid, firmly anti-mage kind of rebel Templar, but much moderate and unfortunate.

But like I said, I do doubt it. I'm still coming round to the idea that the loyalist Templars are still going to have some sort of major(ish) role in Inquisition outside of just merging with the Inquisition.

 

Well, the rebel templars could really be seen as the heroes or the villains depending on whether you're pro-templar or pro-mage, so it would be a shame to discover that they've become the red templars because there's a lot of potential to see their reasoning for breaking away from the Chantry, in the same way that there's potential to see why some remained Divine loyal. I'd like to see the different shades of grey within both.

 

Either way, the Red Templars are probably too bombed off their nut to even realise that they're still in uniform, LOL!


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