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[Lorien19]

Hey guys, I'm all for proving the troll wrong, which he is considering his proof isn't actually proof, and also scaring him off with shirtless cullen with baby animals, but this is gone on long enough. It's been several pages, I'm stepping in for an absent R2 here for a moment to tell you we should just start ignoring him. Arguing with him to this length will just invite more of his kind. 

This^

It apparent at this point that he/she is only interested in trolling...
 

OT Since the video GE recorded was not released yesterday I assume it will probably be released after E3.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Hey guys, I'm all for proving the troll wrong, which he is considering his proof isn't actually proof, and also scaring him off with shirtless cullen with baby animals, but this is gone on long enough. It's been several pages, I'm stepping in for an absent R2 here for a moment to tell you we should just start ignoring him. Arguing with him to this length will just invite more of his kind. 

 

 

Also remember Allan warned us about discussion of specific forum members in a negative fashion. 

 

Lol, more of his kind.......... *whispers* they're everywhere 

[BioFan (Official)]

I think that regardless of the poster's intentions, some of the discussion about Cullen that has been spawned is actually pretty interesting and worthwhile.

 

That may be true, but remember that Allan warned us about negatively discussing forum members, so let's just make sure we don't approach that point ok? 

[BioFan (Official)]

This^

It apparent at this point that he/she is only interested in trolling...
 

OT Since the video GE recorded was not released yesterday I assume it will probably be released after E3.

 

 

I'm assuming next friday, if not this weekend. 

[TreeHuggerHannah]

One of the things that I find most fascinating about Cullen is that he is neither pro-mage liberation nor in favor of excessive cruelty toward mages. There's so much zealotry in Thedas on both sides that it's kind of interesting to see a character who is more middle of the road.

[BFace]

One of the things that I find most fascinating about Cullen is that he is neither pro-mage liberation nor in favor of excessive cruelty toward mages. There's so much zealotry in Thedas on both sides that it's kind of interesting to see a character who is more middle of the road.

Exactly this.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

This^

It apparent at this point that he/she is only interested in trolling...
 

OT Since the video GE recorded was not released yesterday I assume it will probably be released after E3.

 

Yeah   Maybe they wont be introducing advisers at E3, or if they do maybe only briefly. So they are keeping the interview to give us something after E3 to quell the disappointment   

[berelinde]

Pretty much how I feel. 
 

I don't have to like and/or agree with every little thing a character does to like the character. 

 

e.g. Littlefinger from GoT is a deplorable guy that does deplorable things, but I can't help but the love the character.

Liked this for the Littlefinger reference. The guy is as evil as they come, but he is just so damned... i don't know the word. What is it called when you see evil and recognize it, but realize that every step of the way is a logical one and you acknowledge the possibility that, given the circumstances, you might make the same decisions? Is "empathy" a good word? How about "there but for the grace of gad go I?"

[ChachiBobinks]

Sooooo are we hoping to get Culleny goodness during E3? I've not seen an E3 feature or whatever before so I don't know what to expect. It's hard for me to imagine, though, that they'd devote a lot of time to any one character. Obviously not everyone will have a VO vid.

[Jynxed_]

berelinde, on 06 Jun 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

Liked this for the Littlefinger reference. The guy is as evil as they come, but he is just so damned... i don't know the word. What is it called when you see evil and recognize it, but realize that every step of the way is a logical one and you acknowledge the possibility that, given the circumstances, you might make the same decisions? Is "empathy" a good word? How about "there but for the grace of gad go I?"

Um...I use the word pedo to describe Littlefinger...but I do really love his character none the less.

[BioFan (Official)]

Here's a new Cullen to lighten the mood! 

[Lorien19]

Yeah   Maybe they wont be introducing advisers at E3, or if they do maybe only briefly. So they are keeping the interview to give us something after E3 to quell the disappointment   

I hope not,I'd love to see Cullen in action!But you're probably right,then again they said "meet the heroes" not "meet the companions" so let's hope they intend to show the advisers as well. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah   Maybe they wont be introducing advisers at E3, or if they do maybe only briefly. 

[Lieutenant Kurin]

Cullen has seen Tranquil, and he has observed that they are eternally serene, eternally uncaring about the world going BOOM! around them. I'm not convinced that he understands the full implications of that. After all, as far as I know, no one has ever performed the rite on a non-mage, so he would probably view it as something that happened exclusively to other people.

 

It's difficult to empathize when something would never, ever happen to you. I can't blame Cullen for that. I'm just wondering what will happen if he meets mages who were once Tranquil. How will *that* alter his perception?

Cullen is so intriguing because he's been in a rather unique position where he's seen mages at their absolute worst, and templars at their worst. I feel like Brother Gentivi should write a book on him or something.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

I doubt we'll get a lot about Cullen at E3, but I'm hoping for maybe a good picture and a few snippets of information either at the event or in the surrounding publicity.

[BioFan (Official)]

I think we are just getting IB, Sera, and Vivi. The reveals are set prior to E3, and if they were going to do more, they would have started a little sooner. Plus, 2/3 of them are in the advertising party. I'm betting 5 sovereigns here and now that they are repeating Vivi tomorrow. 

[CENIC]

They way they phrased it as "meet the heroes" and the fact that they included the presumed "adviser" characters in the Last Supper shot makes me think Cullen will definitely be included in the cast run down.

[Galagraphia]

And here he is agreeing with the Tranquil Solution.

Hey, that's my Hawke
No, he agrees that the Rite of Tranquility is useful, but not with what Alrik wanted to do (tranquilize all mages in the world, regardless of their ability to resist demons). Cullen supports the original templar rules, that the mage should be:
1) put through the Harrowing, to prove they can resist demonic possession.
2) put through the Rite of Tranquility, if they don't want to go through the Harrowing, or show dangerous inclinations, like in Jowan's case.
3) killed, when nothing else can be done, and the mage becomes a murderer, blood mage, or an abomination.

Also, I disagree that all mages who survived the annulment would be made tranquil, because there is an option in Origins to put the survived mages into prison (I suspect Aeonar, "the trial by fire"), and after the Blight, when it's over, they return as mages, not as tranquil.

What is important to understand about Cullen is that he's not some kind of crazy fanatic, he doesn't support anything extreme, like Alrik. Templars like Cullen actually believe that Tranquility is better than death, because it means the mage stays alive, and becomes immune (well, that's what they think anyway) to demonic possession. So that's why normal templars do it, and some mages actually agree with them, because not all mages are strong enough to fight off the demon, and they know it, and the prospect of becoming an abomination scares them, and some prefer to live rather than to be driven mad by demons and killed by the templars, so they actually ask to be made tranquil.
Alrik, well, he just likes to torture mages, because he's an evil bastard, and that's why he does his Tranquility business. He does it illegally, because even Meredith told him it was not ok.
I'll repeat again, Cullen in this video agrees that the Rite of Tranquility is useful. But not with Alrik's plan.

[BioFan (Official)]

I think we are just getting IB, Sera, and Vivi. The reveals are set prior to E3, and if they were going to do more, they would have started a little sooner. Plus, 2/3 of them are in the advertising party. I'm betting 5 sovereigns here and now that they are repeating Vivi tomorrow. 

 

Though then again it's technically possible for them to do 8-11 characters over the weekend, in which case I should invest in adult diapers cuz imma be [youknowwhat]ing my pants! 

[berelinde]

Um...I use the word pedo to describe Littlefinger...but I do really love his character none the less.

Uh... yeah. If I had to name a single thing about ASOIAF that totally squicked me out, it would be Mr Martin's ideas about the age at which females enter adulthood. But it isn't just Littlefinger. Neither Stark parent seems to have a problem with marrying Sansa off to Joffrey the moment she enters menarche. And literally everybody in the Seven Kingdoms is cool with that. Ugh. I am so, so glad that Dragon Age lacks an adolescent face/body model.

[Jean]

Liked this for the Littlefinger reference. The guy is as evil as they come, but he is just so damned... i don't know the word. What is it called when you see evil and recognize it, but realize that every step of the way is a logical one and you acknowledge the possibility that, given the circumstances, you might make the same decisions? Is "empathy" a good word? How about "there but for the grace of gad go I?"

I'm not sure how to describe it either, honestly. But I completely understand what you are trying to say.

 

Sooooo are we hoping to get Culleny goodness during E3? I've not seen an E3 feature or whatever before so I don't know what to expect. It's hard for me to imagine, though, that they'd devote a lot of time to any one character. Obviously not everyone will have a VO vid.

More than likely, if Cullen is to be in it at all, he'll briefly pop up in a quick trailer. Unlikely anything too terribly noteworthy.

 

Best case scenario is if they show off choosing between the military/diplomatic/espionage options.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I hate not having likes to throw at everyone! Here, have a cute kitty instead 

[BioFan (Official)]

Steve Bigras @stevenbigras  ·  Jun 4

Another night mixing content for #dragonage

 

Look guys! It's *Robert*!

[Mrs_Stick]

Aww I'm starting to really like it here surrounded by cullenites!! Yall are the best =)

[ClassicBox]

I think that the reason I appreciate Cullen's character so much is that he is so, uh, not sure of a perfect word, ...let's go with sensible. On top of his practicality he has shown so much growth as a character in even the short blurbs we got of him.

 

He started out as a young, eager Templar who just wanted to 'do the right thing'. He did not see mages at these terrible baby-eating monsters as so many people did. He just wanted to protect them from themselves and protect the people around them. Then he had horrific things done to him by mages, so it is only natural that he retaliated by casting them all off as evil. He had PTSD I would assume; I mean seeing your friends tortured and murdered in front of you while you are receiving torture as well can do damage to a person. So yes, that event did cloud his judgement. So from there, he continued with his templar duties but with the ideals to 'stop their evil.' However, as time went on, he realized what he was doing was wrong. He saw how they were being treated and I think he reflected on that and realized his judgment was biased. And he then re-aligned himself to do what he thinks was right. He shows that when he stands up to Meredith and when he lets mage hawke go (if hawke is a mage lul). I don't think he will ever be as trusting or as naive as he was before, but I think he is starting to figure himself out. And that is why I admire Cullen the knight-commander. Even if you don't like his personality, there is still a lot to be liked as a character. (I liked Meredith as a character. Not as a person, but my out of character self enjoyed her!)

 

So in conclusion;I think Cullen is remarkably strong because he was able to accept the fact that even though something horrible happened, and can happen, that not every single mage is to blame. He has views that are very well rounded, and that I can appreciate.

 

(<- Okay but seriously. I am in love with this emote. IT'S LITTLE HAT. I shall use it everywhereeeeee. Even though it's not relevant. I mean, the hat.)