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And from that site

 

"As it will stand firm, with the help of other templars to distract, it’s up to the Inquisitor’s judgement how to handle such a strong opponent."

 

So I'm taking from this that there will still be templars loyal to the divine. That's probably where we will meet up with Cullen, and I'm assuming he'll look mostly like his leaked pic.

 

Yessss more evidence pointing to running into fuzzy!Cullen!



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I felt fine with his romance being open to a mage, but it would have made sense to cut it off to a blood mage.

 

Romancing him as my blood mage was really awkward, I tell you. So was impaling myself in the gut in front of Cullen in the middle of the Gallows.  :rolleyes:

Hah, the things we do for love.



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Me too.

 

I will never forgive the Mass Effect team for that. Never.

 

Uuuuggghhh I am so glad I don't have to go through that again. Cullen was my new Joker. (Although my love of Joker is unsurpassed. There will never be another of his like.)



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Loving that blog I'm reading. Really love the part about hunting and gathering. Makes me happy to know we'll be making our armor as well :D

 

So Excited about the keep!

 

And loving that it won't be MMO!

 

OMG, I have all these gift certificates saved up! I want them to take my money lol



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which leaked pic? fluffy cullen?  I'm so out of sync still :(



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Uuuuggghhh I am so glad I don't have to go through that again. Cullen was my new Joker. (Although my love of Joker is unsurpassed. There will never be another of his like.)

 

It was SUCH a wasted opportunity! I remember being like "they'd never do something as ridiculous and cliche as putting him with the ship in a hot robot body" before the game came out. Yeeeeeeeeah.....

 

I'm happy you guys don't have to go through that with Cullen!



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It was SUCH a wasted opportunity! I remember being like "they'd never do something as ridiculous and cliche as putting him with the ship in a hot robot body" before the game came out. Yeeeeeeeeah.....

 

I'm happy you guys don't have to go through that with Cullen!

 

know. I was crushed. I hope they announced Solas as a LI, too! For... slightly selfish reasons. (Dat Solass.)


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#3083
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I think most of us talk about it as a crush, as in unrequited crush, since from the dialogue in the female mage origin it seems like that's the first time he's ever spoken to her. 

For me, I found that it was more then a crush. Because had it not been, he probably would not have been tortured with it.


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I agree that they handled Fenris's mage romance very well.  I'm a Fenmancer in DA2 and my favourite game is a rivalry mage romance with Fenris.  My only problem with it really is that intellectually I don't buy it.  Fenris is damaged and stays damaged by his experiences (which strangely enough is part of the reason I like him so much, I hate the whole my lover will CHANGE because of me dynamic in games.  I've never changed for anyone and I don't think many people actually do in a substantial and enduring fashion because they fall in love with someone else) and I can see him getting over things enough to work with and respect Mage Hawke but I just can't see him jumping into bed with them and coming back.  Maybe the sex but not the return.

 

This is just my take on it and I completely respect that others see him differently (the writers included because he does come back in game), so I'm not trying to force my interpretation of Fenris on anyone else.  I'm just explaining my reaction to the character.


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Do you guys think Cullen will be more harsher towards mages in DAI given what he went through in DAO?

I don't think he changed that much, he still helped to cull the mages and only backed out at the last moment...

Chiming in late, but I think yes, in DA2 he already was harsher on mages after what he went through in DA:O. I think part of his wake up call at the end of DA2 was realizing that the way the Circle was run was overly harsh. So I would expect in DA:I, if there were Circles, he would take a more moderate approach to how mages were treated. That isn't to say that he doesn't think they should be in the Circle, as I would expect he still believes in the system. Of course... there is no system anymore in DA:I! So that'll be very interesting to see how he deals with free-range mages. Probably badly. LOL



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which leaked pic? fluffy cullen?  I'm so out of sync still :(

 

The very first survey leak



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I felt fine with his romance being open to a mage, but it would have made sense to cut it off to a blood mage.

 

Ohh that I can agree with. That just makes it seem like he has no real principles or that his fears aren't genuine.


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Ohh that I can agree with. That just makes it seem like he has no real principles or that his fears aren't genuine.

Or - "This is not the droids you're looking for."

 

Frankly, that'd be more believable in the case of bloodmage.



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Hm, well...maybe I shouldn't say that, but, um, well I do have an Amell mage among my Characters who hasn't romancend anyone (because there simply was non such chemestry and/or affection) and has some unresolved thigns going on for her regarding him. Not because they fell so totally in love the moment they first laid eyes on another that there would never be anyone else for them, but because I somehow felt that there were feelings involved which run deeper than they themselfs could grasp. And on which they never actually really had the chance to act on for various reasons invoveld - to see where it would lead them (even if that meant realaising that their relashonship would not work out in any longterm fashion or at all). To the point, where it became some unresolved issue between them, that, should they ever meet again (in theory at least), would probaly result in some emotinal awkwardness and confusion for them to deal with.

 

But then again, do I not feel confident in explaining myself proper here, so I most likely made a complete fool of myself. ^^

And since I'm always taking so long I'm probably way to late again anyway *sigh*

I really should stay lurked and not bother with saying anything at all... Unless I want myself to feel totally awkward and stupid again. >.<

Naw, stay delurked! That's exactly why it's an RPG and we all have our own headcanons. Imagining that Amell and Cullen were destined for one another is totally valid. It might mess with an Inquisitor romance, but there are also fun ways around that, too. 



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I agree that they handled Fenris's mage romance very well.  I'm a Fenmancer in DA2 and my favourite game is a rivalry mage romance with Fenris.  My only problem with it really is that intellectually I don't buy it.  Fenris is damaged and stays damaged by his experiences (which strangely enough is part of the reason I like him so much, I hate the whole my lover will CHANGE because of me dynamic in games.  I've never changed for anyone and I don't think many people actually do in a substantial and enduring fashion because they fall in love with someone else) and I can see him getting over things enough to work with and respect Mage Hawke but I just can't see him jumping into bed with them and coming back.  Maybe the sex but not the return.

 

I don't want to make this about Fenris since this is the Cullen thread, but I want to say I respect your opinion on the romance :) I'd only add that to me it's not about changing or curing him (which I agree is a gross and awful concept) but more about showing him that he doesn't have to fear Hawke. And for Hawke to acknowledge his fears and his past, and if Fenris can see that Hawke isn't Danarius or any other "evil" mage he's met, then in a way, that's almost like a sort of healing. 

 

I've always thought Cullen's and Fenris' issues were different though, because Fenris comes at the issue from the point of view of a slave who was abused by magic, whereas Cullen comes at the issue from the point of view of a person in a position of power who was tortured for a short time (in COMPARISON to Fenris' whole life) by those he was supposed to hold power over.

 

So although I don't advocate magically healing Cullen with our super vaginas/dicks of Perfect Love, I think the romance between Cullen and a mage is less complicated.


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#3091
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just putting something on the plate.......

 

 

......lyrium addiction. Cullen most likely has it since, you know, with the full blown templar gig and all, not like alistair,

so if anyone's going to romance cullen, prepare to salvage as much lyrium as possible, maybe even cut some deals with the dwarves or the chantry or else...

 

be prepared for having a delirious foaming at the mouth cullen running around naked with his trousers on his head and dancing the merigold. 

 

See I keep seeing talk of this and it got me thinking.

 

What if...now keep in mind I'm saying What if here.

 

That the Order and the Divine had a way to ween the Templars off of Lyrium all this time and hadn't said anything. Anyways, even if they didn't and recently figured out a way to get their Templars of the dust. Lets say one of the two is the current situation.

 

The Divine decides lets get our boys off the stuff and she shares with them that they can still in fact use their talents. This 'may' keep some of the Templars loyal. But maybe, there will be side effects from no longer taking it. I'm thinking that something along these lines could make for a really interesting story. It could lead to some of the Templars to abandoning the order and forming their own.



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Ugh, so I stopped reading at page 136ish. Have I missed any new info?



#3093
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Ugh, so I stopped reading at page 136ish. Have I missed any new info?

 

Nah, you're good :)

 

Although GE did tweet about us!

https://twitter.com/ellisgreg



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Ugh, so I stopped reading at page 136ish. Have I missed any new info?

 

Nope, but GE did post a hilarious tweet earlier.

 

Ninja'd.



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I don't want to make this about Fenris since this is the Cullen thread, but I want to say I respect your opinion on the romance :) I'd only add that to me it's not about changing or curing him (which I agree is a gross and awful concept) but more about showing him that he doesn't have to fear Hawke. And for Hawke to acknowledge his fears and his past, and if Fenris can see that Hawke isn't Danarius or any other "evil" mage he's met, then in a way, that's almost like a sort of healing. 

 

I've always thought Cullen's and Fenris' issues were different though, because Fenris comes at the issue from the point of view of a slave who was abused by magic, whereas Cullen comes at the issue from the point of view of a person in a position of power who was tortured for a short time (in COMPARISON to Fenris' whole life) by those he was supposed to hold power over.

 

So although I don't advocate magically healing Cullen with our super vaginas/dicks of Perfect Love, I think the romance between Cullen and a mage is less complicated.

 

I absolutely respect your views on the romance too and in many ways I think it is a kinder, gentler and flat out better way of seeing the world.  Perhaps I have too harsh an opinion of human nature and one's capacity to change and heal.

 

I agree that things are much less complex with Cullen, who I think if is not placed in a position of direct authority over them should be able to get his sexy on with a mage with the right inducements.   ;)


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#3096
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Ugh, so I stopped reading at page 136ish. Have I missed any new info?

 

Greg Ellis tweeted some glorious puns at us.  :wub:



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GREG ELLIS RETWEETED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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GREG ELLIS RETWEETED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

OMG dsfgjhsdfg what did you/he say??!!



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OMG dsfgjhsdfg what did you/he say??!!

 

  1. Did #Cullenties catch my 'amazing pun' I wonder - Are you (bio)aware … My fav line of the day - "Will Greg Ellis give Culleningus" #blush

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  2.  Retweeted by Greg Ellis

    @ellisgreg Holy leaping lizards, batman, I seriously just burst out laughing LOL #Cullenites #GE is a card! #<3

He didn't add anything, just RT'd me!!!! <3



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See I keep seeing talk of this and it got me thinking.

 

What if...now keep in mind I'm saying What if here.

 

That the Order and the Divine had a way to ween the Templars off of Lyrium all this time and hadn't said anything. Anyways, even if they didn't and recently figured out a way to get their Templars of the dust. Lets say one of the two is the current situation.

 

The Divine decides lets get our boys off the stuff and she shares with them that they can still in fact use their talents. This 'may' keep some of the Templars loyal. But maybe, there will be side effects from no longer taking it. I'm thinking that something along these lines could make for a really interesting story. It could lead to some of the Templars to abandoning the order and forming their own.

 

I read a fanfiction by Crisium that addressed lyrium addiction and how Cullen dealt with it.  Beautiful story.  Multiple parts to it, though-- it starts with an Alistair/Amell pairing but then continues with a Cullen/Amell in the later installations.  Highly recommend it.  

https://www.fanficti...1537964/Crisium here's a link to their page on fanfiction.