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Yeah, it was definitely DA2 when he really stood out to me as someone who I wanted to see as a romance option... mind you, Alistair totally blasted everyone out of the water for me in DA:O so no one else stood a chance, LOL!

 

I guess there's also the tragic factor to Cullen after watching him go through so much after 2 games, ever the underdog. I guess that brought out the "protector" in me and I was like "YES! DO WANT!"  :lol:

 

Exactly! After seeing his progress in DA2, I was like "Daaayummm! The boy has serious constitution and backbone and he isn't as black and white as he initially seemed! He's interesting! I MUST know more!" And I kinda like to head-canon that working with Hawke, having a friend, helped him heal a bit too...


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Well the M!Amell and M!Surana is probably just because Cullen doesn't fancy them. Whereas, I can totally see the M!Tabris thing, (sorry). City Elf is by far my favourite origin, but I feel it lacks impact when you're a male elf. Plus it's really Damsel in Distressy as a guy, and cooler for the lady elf to go in swords blazin'.

 

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:P No actually I get why people feel the female version is more exciting, partly because it's so rare for games or media in general to give us female characters who take matters into their own hands (so sad). 

 

But I think that person was really rude to say what they said is all. M!Tabris is one of my canon playthroughs, and he really means a lot to me. He's not a nothing, throw-away character; he had his own hopes and dreams and faults, just as much as a female Tabris would have had.


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Yeah, it was definitely DA2 when he really stood out to me as someone who I wanted to see as a romance option... mind you, Alistair totally blasted everyone out of the water for me in DA:O so no one else stood a chance, LOL!

 

I guess there's also the tragic factor to Cullen after watching him go through so much after 2 games, ever the underdog. I guess that brought out the "protector" in me and I was like "YES! DO WANT!"  :lol:

 

I played DA2 first so for a long time that's all I had to go on, and he really stood out as a conflicted and complex character, even in just that game. I really loved him. Then I came to this thread (old thread) and learned he was in DAO, too, and I did eventually play that origin, and while the origin itself didn't impress me (or Cullen in it; I mean, he is just a shy boy with a crush in that game, kinda blah), having that backstory made me appreciate him in DA2 even more AND long to see him in DAI.



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Exactly! After seeing his progress in DA2, I was like "Daaayummm! The boy has serious constitution and backbone and he isn't as black and white as he initially seemed! He's interesting! I MUST know more!" And I kinda like to head-canon that working with Hawke, having a friend, helped him heal a bit too...

 

Yeah, the fact that he didn't end up turning into his epilogues intrigued me to find out why, which is how I ended up appreciating his story arc and realising just how much potential he has.

 

I'm definitely interested to see how/why he's a pillar of the Inquisition, did his luck change or was he kinda pigeon holed into it?


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Ugh, I know. Damn it, Fenders artsits! Y U so good :lol:

 

 

OMG... I know. Well... art is art. I will not tell artists what they can and can't do. Not a fan of censorship, no way. But yeah, I would prefer to never personally see such art. Just the whole slave Fenris in HODA was enough to make me quit the game.

 

I don't agree with censorship either, so I try to just stay away from stuff like that. *shudders*



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:P No actually I get why people feel the female version is more exciting, partly because it's so rare for games or media in general to give us female characters who take matters into their own hands (so sad). 
 
But I think that person was really rude to say what they said is all. M!Tabris is one of my canon playthroughs, and he really means a lot to me. He's not a nothing, throw-away character; he had his own hopes and dreams and faults, just as much as a female Tabris would have had.


Oh yeah, M!Tabris is totally valid. I just find the actual events of the origin story to be...inferior. I hate how Tabris arguably has the least reactivity in DA2. I think the only semi-unique direct mention my Caelwen properly got was the rumour about King Alistair's elven mistress. That and Isabela's 'I met the Hero Of Ferelden', but any Warden can get that!
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Yeah, it was definitely DA2 when he really stood out to me as someone who I wanted to see as a romance option... mind you, Alistair totally blasted everyone out of the water for me in DA:O so no one else stood a chance, LOL!

 

I guess there's also the tragic factor to Cullen after watching him go through so much after 2 games, ever the underdog. I guess that brought out the "protector" in me and I was like "YES! DO WANT!"  :lol:

I agree with you and Samara on this,Cullen stood out as a character for me in DAO,but not in that way,since he was way too traumatized and emotionally vulnerable by the end of the game.I remember the first time I read the rumours in the epilogue about him going crazy without knowing that it was retconed in DA2 made me rather sad. 
So I was more than glad to see him again in DA2 and more reasonable than ever.



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I will definitely help if I can :)

 

It is weird how Surana gets ignored. Um, and don't even tell me about M!Surana. It's like he does not exist. Or M!Amell, either. Same with M!Tabris. Someone on this forum once actually said, "I don't know why anyone would even play a M!Tabris." I bit my tongue lol

 

Oh I'm a hardcore shipper. I always have OTPs in every fandom. And I die inside when I see my OTPs split apart in various different ships lol

I have an MAmell and I consider him my canon Warden. But it comes down to, Cullen loves Femell and there is that side group, whom I hate to admit even exist, who often think a female mage is more appropriate to a male one (sexist bastards).

 

I really want to see a MAmell/Cullen romance, or even anything with MAmell, sorely lacking. ALSO, funny story, but I named my MAmell Bethame. Imagine my shock when I learn he has a cousin named Bethany.


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I played DA2 first so for a long time that's all I had to go on, and he really stood out as a conflicted and complex character, even in just that game. I really loved him. Then I came to this thread (old thread) and learned he was in DAO, too, and I did eventually play that origin, and while the origin itself didn't impress me (or Cullen in it; I mean, he is just a shy boy with a crush in that game, kinda blah), having that backstory made me appreciate him in DA2 even more AND long to see him in DAI.

 

Yeah, DA:O he was kind of a non-entity but once we reached DA2 his story arc in DA:O suddenly became so much more important to his character/story arc. In DAI I guess it'll be even more important since we'll already have some knowledge of his past to get to know him with. 



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Unfriending in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...

 

:P No actually I get why people feel the female version is more exciting, partly because it's so rare for games or media in general to give us female characters who take matters into their own hands (so sad). 

 

But I think that person was really rude to say what they said is all. M!Tabris is one of my canon playthroughs, and he really means a lot to me. He's not a nothing, throw-away character; he had his own hopes and dreams and faults, just as much as a female Tabris would have had.

I actually liked both my male and female Tabris playthroughs...In fact the CE origin was my favourite and my female Tabris was the character I could relate the most to since she was my first playthrough.

 

I still think that f Tabris is more exciting,but this doesn't mean that I didn't enjoy playing a m Tabris as well,or that I don't see a purpose in playing as a male for that particular origin.



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In theory, the fact that we've seen him across 2 games does kinda work in our favour since we already feel a bond with him as the player, which makes up for any lack of content that we'd normally get when bonding with companions. The fact that we physically saw what he went through also helps, since usually when it comes to romances we only hear about what happened to them in the past. At least we got to actually see it first hand.


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I agree with you and Samara on this,Cullen stood out as a character for me in DAO,but not in that way,since he was way too traumatized and emotionally vulnerable by the end of the game.I remember the first time I read the rumours in the epilogue about him going crazy without knowing that it was retconed in DA2 made me rather sad. 
So I was more than glad to see him again in DA2 and more reasonable than ever.

Okay I have seen y'all talking about the rumors thing yet I never got that. Is there a particular set of things you have to do. I did so many pls of that game I had sided with templars and killed the mages or I saved the mages...maybe I just don't remember it???? IDK I always saw him in DAO as this poor guy that I just wanted to hug and say it will be alright...my soft heart i suppose...and then his change in DA2 was a welcomed site. He was tough but yet gentle, still a templar to the core..just made me love him more. 

 

My Hawke took more than a few peeks at him while romancing Anders (sorry honey...nope not sorry) I want to see what has changed in his own resolve and personality that makes him an LI now..before I never saw it because well he was so much a templar. 



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I actually liked both my male and female Tabris playthroughs...In fact the CE origin was my favourite and My female Tabris was the character I could relate the most to since she was my first playthrough.

 

I still think that f Tabris is more exciting,but this doesn't mean that I didn't enjoy playing a m Tabris as well,or that I don't see a purpose in playing as a male for that particular origin.

 

I think my least favourite Warden's to play as are the male Dwarfs, lol.



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Okay I have seen y'all talking about the rumors thing yet I never got that. Is there a particular set of things you have to do. I did so many pls of that game I had sided with templars and killed the mages or I saved the mages...maybe I just don't remember it???? IDK I always saw him in DAO as this poor guy that I just wanted to hug and say it will be alright...my soft heart i suppose...and then his change in DA2 was a welcomed site. He was tough but yet gentle, still a templar to the core..just made me love him more. 

 

My Hawke took more than a few peeks at him while romancing Anders (sorry honey...nope not sorry) I want to see what has changed in his own resolve and personality that makes him an LI now..before I never saw it because well he was so much a templar. 

 

Mine never got his DA:O epilogues either, it's a fortunate glitch lol! Have you ever read what his epilogues were? I can try to find them if you want?



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Yeah, the fact that he didn't end up turning into his epilogues intrigued me to find out why, which is how I ended up appreciating his story arc and realising just how much potential he has.

 

I'm definitely interested to see how/why he's a pillar of the Inquisition, did his luck change or was he kinda pigeon holed into it?

 

I have a theory about how he came to the Inquisition. Mind you, it's just a theory - wild speculation on my part and I could be - probably - very wrong.

 

I think the Divine saw what was happening with the Templars and sent her most trusted to people, like Cass and Leliana, to recruit whom they could before the split occurred. She may even have made it a point to stress that they'd need a knight experienced with leading the Order so they wouldn't lose their military expertise. Leliana targeted those she was pretty sure wouldn't have their hearts in it to break from the Chantry and thought of Cullen. She sneakily met with him and offered him a way out of having to follow... Lambert was it? Because, knowing Cullen, he would have gone because he felt it was his place, his duty, etc... or he could have tried to leave since indiscriminately hunting mages isn't what he felt was right. So he either hadn't left yet or wasn't going to because he saw no alternative. Leliana shows up and offers a place within the Divine's circle of advisers and he joins them because he feels he can best do his duty that way and he's not going to be a man on the run.


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In theory, the fact that we've seen him across 2 games does kinda work in our favour since we already feel a bond with him as the player, which makes up for any lack of content that we'd normally get when bonding with companions. The fact that we physically saw what he went through also helps, since usually when it comes to romances we only hear about what happened to them in the past. At least we got to actually see it first hand.


Yeah, I think he might be the NPC to get the most revealed about him, but at the same time, for us, most of it will be old news, or the mostly mundane filling in of the gaps.

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I just spent the past 2 hours trying to explain to my father what a "Cullenite" was. He still thinks it's some kind of bug. *facepalm*


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Yeah, DA:O he was kind of a non-entity but once we reached DA2 his story arc in DA:O suddenly became so much more important to his character/story arc. In DAI I guess it'll be even more important since we'll already have some knowledge of his past to get to know him with. 

 

But, but, don't you know the only reason we are fans is because he flirted with us in DAO and we fell madly in love with him? :P

 

I think my least favourite Warden's to play as are the male Dwarfs, lol.

 

Ditto lol I tried once to make a dwarf guy in CC but just noped outta there after 15 minutes of trying to get a nose that wasn't the size of New Hampshire.



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I just spent the past 2 hours trying to explain to my father what a "Cullenite" was. He still thinks it's some kind of bug. *facepalm*

 

Parents just don't understand! :P

 

I tried to make my parents watch Heroes of Cosplay with me... they left after ten minutes. Sure, it hurt my feelings, but on the plus side, I now know how to get them out of my house.



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Ok, for anyone who didn't see Cullen's DA:O epilougues:

 

IF YOU DIDN'T GRANT THE CIRCLE INDEPENDANCE:

 

"Once the tower was rebuilt, Knight-Commander Greagoir stepped down from his post and retired to a life of private comtemplation as a brother in the Chantry. His health failed over time, and after refusing treatment, he perished in his sleep. Knight-Commander Cullen was said to be more strict and less trusting of the mages even than Greagoir was. He ruled the Circle with fear."

 

IF YOU GAVE THE CIRCLE INDEPENDANCE:

 

"The young templar Cullen never quiet recovered from his ordeal. After months of attempting to convince his superiors that the tower was still a danger, he finally snapped and killed three apprentices before being stopped by his fellow templars. Eventually, Cullen escaped from prison, a madman and a threat to any mage he encountered."

 

... Man, that last one is harsh!



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I always headcanon around the Cullen DA:O epilogues. All his epilogues are creepy. I just go "Nah, that didn't really happen" and then move on to DA2.

 

 

 

Ditto lol I tried once to make a dwarf guy in CC but just noped outta there after 15 minutes of trying to get a nose that wasn't the size of New Hampshire.

 

The noble dwarf is a pretty cool origin though. But I'm biased because of always playing a female Aeducan and romancing Gorim.

The dwarf commoner is probably my least favorite origin.



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Ok, for anyone who didn't see Cullen's DA:O epilougues:

 

IF YOU DIDN'T GRANT THE CIRCLE INDEPENDANCE:

 

"Once the tower was rebuilt, Knight-Commander Greagoir stepped down from his post and retired to a life of private comtemplation as a brother in the Chantry. His health failed over time, and after refusing treatment, he perished in his sleep. Knight-Commander Cullen was said to be more strict and less trusting of the mages even than Greagoir was. He ruled the Circle with fear."

 

IF YOU GAVE THE CIRCLE INDEPENDANCE:

 

"The young templar Cullen never quiet recovered from his ordeal. After months of attempting to convince his superiors that the tower was still a danger, he finally snapped and killed three apprentices before being stopped by his fellow templars. Eventually, Cullen escaped from prison, a madman and a threat to any mage he encountered."

 

... Man, that last one is harsh!

 

After Anders, serving the wardens for "many years to come", I'd say the DA:O epilogues related to anyone other than the warden should be discarded. 


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But, but, don't you know the only reason we are fans is because he flirted with us in DAO and we fell madly in love with him? :P

 

Sh!t, really? I didn't get the memo!  :lol:


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After Anders, serving the wardens for "many years to come", I'd say the DA:O epilogues related to anyone other than the warden should be discarded. 

 

I'd say even the Warden's epilogues should probably be discarded too!



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Ok, for anyone who didn't see Cullen's DA:O epilougues:

 

IF YOU GAVE THE CIRCLE INDEPENDANCE:

 

"The young templar Cullen never quiet recovered from his ordeal. After months of attempting to convince his superiors that the tower was still a danger, he finally snapped and killed three apprentices before being stopped by his fellow templars. Eventually, Cullen escaped from prison, a madman and a threat to any mage he encountered."

 

... Man, that last one is harsh!

 

Yeah... :unsure: I've seen fic about this storyline for him and the things he does... *shudders* :wacko: