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[BevH]

LOL!!! Is that from the romance scene?!

It's from DahliaLynn's Sleep Until Dawn mod. I was priveledged to help with the testing of it. I just adore her work!

[Adela]

You have a good point.  Maybe that's the thing.  Still, what about Scribbles? She doesn't even have a name yet. It would be nice to see at least a little about her.  I know we think they're saving those things for when they talk about the advisors, which would make sense imo, but it doesn't keep the spotlight away from Leliana, so....idk.  I hate to sound like I'm complaining.  The game is beautiful and the characters sound awesome, but it does seem like they are kinda playing favorites so far.  I swear, sometimes I get the impression they're reluctant even say Cullen's name.  Maybe I'm reading everything wrong and they will make up for it later, though.   ​ 

yea, I mean dont get me wrong i would love to know more about Sera and scribes or any other companion and adviser but i just don't like when they keep pushing the same thing over and over and over and over... idk it gets a bit annoying at least for me

 

I mean even if Cullen were to be mentioned numerous time it would just make me sick of him I like a lil bit a mystery but at the same time to know some basics about the character

[CuriousArtemis]

It's from DahliaLynn's Sleep Until Dawn mod. I was priveledged to help with the testing of it. I just adore her work!

 

It just looks like she is staring at him while he sleeps LOL!

[BevH]

It just looks like she is staring at him while he sleeps LOL!

Actually she is. I believe this is the second part of the mod called Alistair's Nightmare which is based on her video of the same name. A few of us asked her to make it into a mod. The nightmare is based on Alistair saying that he should've been with Duncan at Ostagar. It shows what might have happened had he been there. In this part of the mod, she wakes up noticing that Alistair's sleep is restless. It then segues into the nightmare. It's really an awesome mod.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

It just looks like she is staring at him while he sleeps LOL!

 

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the world who doesn't find that creepy.

[MacyNell]

Well well well, look what I found!

 

NSFW

 

 

Spoiler

 

Artist:http://mellorianjart.tumblr.com/

 

So, that's almost his back back, Mello.   

 

Have I said THANK YOU lately?  If not, THANK YOU. 

[BFace]

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the world who doesn't find that creepy.

I also do not find that creepy at all. 

[Mellora]

 
So, that's almost his back back, Mello.   
 
Have I said THANK YOU lately?  If not, THANK YOU. 

Yes, almost... That's the word. Like Cullen's face at E3. Almost... *sigh*
Lol, you're welcome !

[Adela]

1. Adela ‏@ag9993 54m

   @DiscoBabaloo soo is there any chance that you guys might make this an open beta anytime soon...? Just so that everyone can be happy?

    

    
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   Fernando Melo ‏@DiscoBabaloo 2m

   @ag9993 at this rate, we probably will need to

[Potato Cat]

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  @DiscoBabaloo soo is there any chance that you guys might make this an open beta anytime soon...? Just so that everyone can be happy?
  
  
   
  
  
   
  
  
  
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  Fernando Melo ‏@DiscoBabaloo 2m
  @ag9993 at this rate, we probably will need to

I squee'd, but he's probably just trying to be nice.

[BevH]

This topic came up at PAX Prime's LGBTQ talk. It spawned out of a discussion regarding all LI being universally available. Steve and Samantha came up, and I believe it was Dusty that asked the audience if it would have been better if Steve and Samantha were available to men and women. In a room of probably 200-300 people, and from what I remember it was a clear majority that did not raise their hands.

 

I talked about it with some of the people I was near. The biggest thing was representation. There is someone that gets caught on the mic during the discussion with a statement about representation and included an emphatic "Thank you" at the end of it. And I think much the same way that you dislike the concept of "NPC romances" because they are "lesser romances," and what I also learned in talking with people in the other romance thread about whether or not romance content is vital: by being a romanceable character it's given as much attention and exposure as possible. Many, many people in that discussion mentioned that they value romance content in our games because it's an explicit and unambiguous way for LGBTQ views to be acknowledged.

 

Back to PAX: for some, it simply felt good to have a romanceable character who's romance content was created specifically with them in mind. (and I think that that is okay) We could handle representation with other non-romanceable NPCs (and I think we should still do that), but I think it's analogous to your concerns about NPC romances. For at least some of the people that like it from a representation perspective, it's stronger representation than with a character that isn't romanceable. Maybe it's just me struggling with my own advantages (especially in gaming), the idea that someone felt "This character is FOR ME" seemed reasonable. Especially as a guy who has a lot of content that specifically targets me and maybe takes for granted that other people don't have this experience as much.

 

 

With respect to romance options, the reality is that if we include romance content in any way, there will always be a degree of being unfair towards someone. Spoken differently, I think the only genuinely "fair" breakdown is for romance content to not exist. Because even if there was a perfect split with all the characters you meet in the game in terms of man/woman, and they were all universally romanceable, the reality is that some people are going to look at some romances and consider them superior to other romances.

 

The most common hypothesis for our romance breakdown will be some notion of 2/2/2. (Disclaimer: I am not giving any validity to the breakdowns, nor the names that I will use... I have taken them from the forum as commonly seen theories/hypotheses).

 

Cassandra - straight

Solas - Straight

Cullen - Bisexual

Scribe Girl - Bisexual

DHMG - Gay

Sera - lesbian

 

With this there are 4 options for a male inquisitor, and 4 options for a female inquisitor (which is equivalent to DA2 in terms of the amount of choice).

 

First off, right off the bat. Anyone that has already decided that none of these characters are interesting to them as a romance have lost. The content is inherently unfair to them because they will not have any sort of romanceable character.

 

Now even then, some have already pegged Cassandra and Solas as the "main romance." So it's also possible that those that don't like Cassandra and Solas are stuck with options that are innately "inferior." And that might be the case, because some romances will simply be better received than others (especially on an individual player basis).

 

 

I have seen some say that they'd prefer 4 bisexuals like DA2, because then it's fair and no one gets access to a romance that someone else does not. Except for those that lose their romanceable content.... Imagine we were to make it Cass, Solas, Cullen, and Scribe girl as all bisexual. To some, this is fairer. Except for those that really want to romance Sera or DMHG. Is this really "fairer" simply because we've restricted people from getting content in the interest of being "fair" by effectively isolating "all those that want to romance a character but cannot all have to suffer together."

 

So I think on some level we have to pick our battles on what is considered "fair" because I feel that the only truly fair way is no romance content, which obviously is not what a lot of people want. Any decision that we make (and this goes beyond just romances) is going to be disappointing to someone. The trick is attempting to reconcile the opposing viewpoints. I think it's also important to note that having set sexualities brings to the forefront that "4 isn't enough if we want to ensure choice." As such, I don't think it's necessarily accurate to simply say "well do 6 bisexuals" because had we gone into development with the mindset of "lets just make the romances all bisexual" then we may have very well ended up with only 4 (and applied the writing resources elsewhere), because in terms of choice it's all we'd need. Stated otherwise, it's possible that having set sexualities provides the impetus to have more than 4 romances.

This is a quote from Allan from the romance discussion which I thought had bearing on the discussions we've been having here.

[CuriousArtemis]

This is a quote from Allan from the romance discussion which I thought had bearing on the discussions we've been having here.

 

A little, but I don't think anyone here has yet said the way they're doing things is "unfair" (at least I don't think so). Sure, personally I'd prefer all bi, but as I've stated many times, I get how important it is to some players who have been habitually disregarded by the industry to see romances tailored especially for them (i.e. gay and lesbian romances). 

 

Mostly here in this thread we've just been biting our nails and feeling anxious/scared about what our options will be. And annoyed with BW for releasing that information in seemingly random, sporadic spurts lol

[thats1evildude]

Are you serious? They're announcing Vivienne *again*? Maker have mercy!

From now on to release, there will be weekly Vivienne announcements, leading up to a major re-branding event where they announce the game is now called "Dragon Age: The Rise of Vivienne."

[Jean]

From now on to release, there will be weekly Vivienne announcements.

Now I'm imagining Viv writing a monthly column in a magazine giving fashion advice. 

[Adela]

I squee'd, but he's probably just trying to be nice.

idk.. but he favorite my reply soooo i guess they might consider it?  It would be nice tho

 

 

[Mrs_Stick]

Dear I hope not. I was not fond of Vivi from the beginning and I am still not. At this rate I have no clue how they are announcing everyone. I mean here have 4 companions before E3 1 of which has been known about for a long time. Then lets randomly tell you that 1 is female only romance. And that is where we end off till lets see maybe Pax possibly like a week before the game comes out.

At this rate I believe I will become a hermit and poke my head out of my cave when I get the game =/

[Jean]

At this point, I want tomorrow to be about Solas. Aside from Scribbles and "Cole", all we know about him is his name and he's an elf.

[CuriousArtemis]

Dear I hope not. I was not fond of Vivi from the beginning and I am still not. At this rate I have no clue how they are announcing everyone. I mean here have 4 companions before E3 1 of which has been known about for a long time. Then lets randomly tell you that 1 is female only romance. And that is where we end off till lets see maybe Pax possibly like a week before the game comes out.

 

When is PAX? Maybe I'll get some closure then.

 

Imagine how easy it would have been to enjoy all these AMAZING trailers if we had this out of the way. It's a dark cloud that hovers over the whole DAI experience for me.

[Mrs_Stick]

When is PAX? Maybe I'll get some closure then.

Imagine how easy it would have been to enjoy all these AMAZING trailers if we had this out of the way. It's a dark cloud that hovers over the whole DAI experience for me.

Aug 29-Sept 1
I believe

[Adela]

Aug 29-Sept 1
I believe

well there is PAX Aus witch might be either in july or beginning of august and then there will be Gamescom (Germany) witch will also be mid august (happy that i got tickets to that) and then there is PAX Prme witch is in september

 

 

EDIT NVM just checked apparently PAX Prime is august 29 til Sept 1st and PAX Aus is Oct 31-Nov2

 

AND Gamescom is august 13 til the 17th

[thats1evildude]

Now I'm imagining Viv writing a monthly column in a magazine giving fashion advice.

"In this month's Fashion Tips with Vivienne, we explore how to stay looking fabulous even when you're drenched in dragon blood! Also, how to remove arrows from a breast plate without scratching the finish."

[alwayshungry]

They might also be at SDCC according to this: http://blog.bioware....se-2014-season/

[ilikesocks]

For those who, like me, don't mind spoilers and for those who experience great anxiety when they encounter puzzles they can't solve, the Inquisition Game Guide is now available on Amazon.

THANK YOU!!! *pre-orders that bad boy!*

[CuriousArtemis]

Actually I could see them revealing some sexuality stuff at GaymerX ... probably not the straight characters though

[ilikesocks]

So what is the consensus on that race restrictions post from Gaider?