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#38201
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Every single time I see this pic, I think of two things.

"This Cullen satisfies the demands of the Qun."

and

"This Cullen will bring honour to my clan."

 

Maker, I pray Cullen is into guys (hopefully Qunari guys ^.^)

 

Lol I think there are a few things that Cullen could do to satisfy the demands of the Qun  :P


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Lol I think there are a few things that Cullen could do to satisfy the demands of the Qun  :P

1. Existing

2. Snuggling

3. <REDACTED>

4. <REDACTED>

5. <REDACTED>

6. Baking cookies

7. Raising a mabari puppy together.

 

:)


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#38203
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1. Existing

2. Snuggling

3. <REDACTED>

4. <REDACTED>

5. <REDACTED>

6. Baking cookies

7. Raising a mabari puppy together.

 

:)

 

I've head-canon-ed my Inquisitor baking him ginger cookies. He doesn't like ginger but he eats the whole plate anyway cos I think he'd be that kind of guy  :D



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I'm more concerned with the nature itself of lyrium addiction.  Seriously.  It seems to me, that unlike most drug addictions, where the withdrawal persists is very painful but eventually subsides, it seems like lyrium addiction's withdrawal has lasting effects and possible harm over an extended period of time.  At the other end of the spectrum, what if too much lyrium over time is what produces the negative impacts that we've seen in-game.

 

I'm just not sure and I'm hoping Inquisition at least touches on the question to some level so that we can finally figure it out.

 

At least we know one older templar in the Denerim who has lost his short time memory because of lyrium so he has something similar to dementia. That seems to be one symptom that comes from using lyrium long time instead of being withdrawal symptom. I'm sure there is others too that kick in when person has been using lyrium long period of time.



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For the record, I still really like Cass. :) I think she's a neat character, and is probably going to be good friends with my Inquisitor. I think Cass and Cullen would have a lot in common, too. I can see them being friends.

 



Exactly. I want him to be interested from the get go, but I want him to try to hide it and for it to come out in subtle hints over time. He'll have his reasons for being reserved, perhaps he's worried that he'll lose her/him to his war and/or he feels cursed, like everything he's involved in goes to sh!t so he doesn't want to see our protagonist get hurt because of him. I'd also like to see him quite closed off initially (not in a moody, cold way though) because he's had to be for so many years after all he's been through. Add in just a hint of shyness/awkwardness and I'm golden!

 

I hope this is indeed the case.

 

I really like the idea of gradually getting to know the person, being friends first, building trust - basically how it was described in MD's video.

 

If the LI doesn't show some interest too, though, my Inquisitor would feel like a creep if she was in relentless pursuit. I hope that even if the PC ends up doing most of "the work," the LI is at least sending signals that the attention is welcome and the attraction is mutual. It can be subtle at first, but just signs that your Inquisitor isn't a stalker who struggles to understand that no means no. 

 

Basically, I just want the LI to be at least sending some encouraging signals, even if it takes some time to get to actual romance.

 



Y'know what I'd like him to address? Why he let Hawke 'n' co go if you played pro-Mage. Was it because he had bigger things to deal with? Was it because he/she was a fellow Fereldan? Because he was related to Amell (if you Warden is one)? Was it because he considered Hawke to be a friend (if you were nice to him), was it out of respect? Does he regret it?

 

My headcanon for it was that he was in the middle of a crisis of faith because of what happened to Meredith - as people have said, not faith in the Maker but in the Templar Order and whether it is upholding the principles Cullen stands for and it was supposed to stand for. In the templar ending, Cullen wants the accused mages to be spared because he has doubts about their guilt. I see letting Hawke go as also based on doubt. If Cullen is no longer sure he's fighting for the right thing, he's not going to kill for principles that may be wrong. I see Cullen (as of DA2 anyway) as a person who sees killing as a last resort, sometimes necessary but he's not going to take someone's life if he's not positive he's the one in the right.

 

Even if he thought he could win the fight, at that point Cullen may not be sure he wants to because everything is in doubt, including how templars should deal with mages.

 

I am of course fine with being wrong about this. :) It would be neat to hear the real explanation.

 



Lol, I feel really proud of him too. Weird to feel like that about a fictional character.

 

I feel that way, too. He's come so far!

 



Do you think Cullen will be taking lyrium during the events of Inquisition?

 

I wonder what sort of withdrawal, if any, he will be experiencing. :(

 

I'm not sure if it's even possible to quit lyrium, because even if you wanted to the physical effects of lyrium deprivation might be too much to survive. I've wondered if Cullen might need to take lyrium for the rest of his life, and just moderate his dose to try to mitigate or delay the dementia that results when he's old.


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#38206
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At least we know one older templar in the Denerim who has lost his short time memory because of lyrium so he has something similar to dementia. That seems to be one symptom that comes from using lyrium long time instead of being withdrawal symptom. I'm sure there is others too that kick in when person has been using lyrium long period of time.

 

I have spent quite a bit of time thinking about Cullen and lyrium withdrawal. How he would be affected by it, what physical/mental struggles he may be going through, what effect this would have on a Romance with him, whether or not it would even be included in the game. It was something that I really wanted to see.

 

Now I'm starting to think that maybe Cullen won't be going through lyrium withdrawal's at all. Maybe he never stopped taking lyrium, we have seen from the trailer that he goes out in the field and will most likely be participating in some battle. So there is a possibility that he may still be taking it so he is able to continue using his Templar abilities. 


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For me, the main thing was Sera's Lancashire accent. Pretty random.

So, with IB being a reaver, is anyone else disappointed that it doesn't look like companions will have their own unique talent trees as in DA2?


Sounded cockney to me, lol!

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Y'know what I'd like him to address? Why he let Hawke 'n' co go if you played pro-Mage. Was it because he had bigger things to deal with? Was it because he/she was a fellow Fereldan? Because he was related to Amell (if you Warden is one)? Was it because he considered Hawke to be a friend (if you were nice to him), was it out of respect? Does he regret it?

He's an intelligent man (even if he is a little oblivious). He just watched Hawke and company beat the snot out of a very hopped-up Meredith. If the Champion wanted to leave, how was he going to stop them?

 

Plus, he follows his conscience. The Champion did Kirkwall and the Order a huge service by killing Meredith. He may have thought that they had earned a bit of a head start.

 

Plus, priorities. He was just promoted, in a manner of speaking, and his first duty was to his men. He needed to assess his losses, find treatment for the injured, and regroup. Charging after Hawke would have been irresponsible, and served no purpose. Hawke was never the real threat, and he knew it.


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Hawke was never the real threat, and he knew it.

 

I agree with this.

 

Personally, I also think that if your Hawke was a mage, Cullen had figured it out at least by Act Two if not before. I think he simply chose not to do anything about it because he had more pressing problems and cost/benefit analysis made him think causing trouble for Hawke wasn't worth it.


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#38210
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Morning everyone! Any news on that Greg Ellis video?



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Morning everyone! Any news on that Greg Ellis video?

 

Nope.



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Morning everyone! Any news on that Greg Ellis video?

 

Not yet, but Greg was hospitalized so my guess is that pushed things back. (Sounds like he is doing okay, from what he said on Twitter. :))


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I agree with this.

 

Personally, I also think that if your Hawke was a mage, Cullen had figured it out at least by Act Two if not before. I think he simply chose not to do anything about it because he had more pressing problems and cost/benefit analysis made him think causing trouble for Hawke wasn't worth it.

As the player of many mage Hawkes (points to avatar), I have to agree with this. I don't think this makes him a bad templar. Hawke was very much in the public eye, even in Act 2. Cullen understood that supervision was necessary, but it did not necessarily have to take place in the Gallows. He may have been keeping tabs on Hawke privately, and refraining from interfering as long as Hawke continued to serve the community.


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As the player of many mage Hawkes (points to avatar), I have to agree with this. I don't think this makes him a bad templar. Hawke was very much in the public eye, even in Act 2. Cullen understood that supervision was necessary, but it did not necessarily have to take place in the Gallows. He may have been keeping tabs on Hawke privately, and refraining from interfering as long as Hawke continued to serve the community.

 

Yeah, I think this is very likely.

 

For the record, we do know Cullen is willing to overlook an apostate under certain conditions. He refers to Anders as "mage" on at least one occasion, but makes no effort to arrest him or otherwise hinder him. I don't think it's hard to imagine that Hawke would merit at least the same consideration.

 

 

ETA: Video of Cullen calling Anders "mage." There are two different versions of the line, one at 1:40 and another at around 2:00.

 


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I've head-canon-ed my Inquisitor baking him ginger cookies. He doesn't like ginger but he eats the whole plate anyway cos I think he'd be that kind of guy  :D

I'd agree, I also get the sense he's not a hugger, but he'd totally do it just comfort my Inquisitor.

 

Ginger mabari snaps. Why don't these exist yet?


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I'd agree, I also get the sense he's not a hugger, but he'd totally do it just comfort my Inquisitor.
 
Ginger mabari snaps. Why don't these exist yet?


I LOVE ginger cookies. With these, and the caramel apple martini in the Sera thread I'm having to try soooo hard not to rush out and break my diet right now :lol:

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Argh, does anyone have the link to the 18 minutes or so of game play that someone recorded at E3 and then uploaded. I'm scouring pages for it and it's starting to become a bit tedious :D  



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I'd agree, I also get the sense he's not a hugger, but he'd totally do it just comfort my Inquisitor.

 

Ginger mabari snaps. Why don't these exist yet?

 

Ginger Mabari snaps? Hmmmmm now I'm starting to think it's a possibility he sneakily fed the ginger cookies to that Mabari pup you were talking about earlier  :o  :P



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Argh, does anyone have the link to the 18 minutes or so of game play that someone recorded at E3 and then uploaded. I'm scouring pages for it and it's starting to become a bit tedious :D

Could be this one?

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=0fYCYGnUWww

EDIT: actually, I dont think it is BRB looking :)
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Could be this one?

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=0fYCYGnUWww

EDIT: actually, I dont think it is BRB looking :)

 

Could be this one, but if Boom is thinking of the one with the dwarf inquisitor, sans-commentary, it has since been taken down.


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Or this one? Poss this one? http://m.youtube.com...h?v=-9_aJFA4g9k
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I think that Cullen let Hawke who sided with mages to leave cause he didn't want more fighting to happen. Meredith went crazy, wanted annul the circle that Cullen didn't want to, Orsino went crazy and there was just lot of bloodshed. I think he finally wanted to restore order and stop unnecessary killings. City was already burning and full of corpses and people who probaply were hurt and wounded so templars were needed elsewhere than trying to arrest/kill Hawke who already had been proven to be pretty powerful for killing dozen of attacking templars, Orsino and Meredith.


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Char, this is random but until you started using your picture as your avatar, I was half wondering if you were my employer. ;)


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Not yet, but Greg was hospitalized so my guess is that pushed things back. (Sounds like he is doing okay, from what he said on Twitter. :))

 

Once he did the initial interview with Jessica though I don't think he would have any further involvement. Remember, Alistair's took months to be edited and posted.



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Could be this one, but if Boom is thinking of the one with the dwarf inquisitor, sans-commentary, it has since been taken down.


Dwarf one definitely seems to be gone from everywhere :(